Need a word or phrase translated?

[K-Young]

Japanese people are likely to avoid saying 愛している、恋している、惚れている, though they are often used in the lyrics of songs or the lines of dramas. (I myself have never used them in speaking.) Some may do ... And 惚れている, if used, is the word for matured men (or maybe women). It is often heard in the lyrics of Enka. If a young child says this, it will cause a laugh. A high school boy? Probably good!

 

[Elizabeth]

And 惚れている, if used, is the word for matured men (or maybe women). It is often heard in the lyrics of Enka. If a young child says this, it will cause a laugh. A high school boy? Probably good!

ありがとう。わかりました。それで。。。 どちらかといえば、男っぽい言い方ですね。☺

 

[Niedy]

Niedy, is this for a business or for personal use? (It affects the answer greatly.)

Its for me... I wouldn't ask for "commercial" stuff here... ^^ I went to a job interview in a museum today... afterwards I thought about phrases I might need if I get the job... and now I wonder if I got any of those actually right... I'm just curious and I don't have japanese classes anymore (I'm almost done with my bachelor), so there's no teacher I could ask...
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change of topic:
I just read a manga and came across the following:
お前次第...ってとこかな
and I really can't make anything of it... context is a lover's dispute...
sorry to ask again before even my last request has been answered but otherwise I'll probably just forget about it...

 

[Elizabeth]

Ok, got a few phrases again... I tried to figure out the correct way of saying the indicated phrases in japanese.

hope someone can help

Thanks!

"Put your jackets here please."
上着はこちらへどうぞ。

"The admission fee is 7 euro."
チケットは７ユーロです。

"There are discounts for students and Vienna-Card Holders."
学生やウィーンカードをもっている方には割引があります。

"It's ok to take the handbag with you."
ハンドバッグを持ってもいいです。

These are all very fine. 大丈夫です。よくがんばりましたね！

Quick question!
What's the Japanese equivalent to "food for thought"?
Say, at the end of a speech (not really a speech, per se) that provokes people to think about certain issues (war, poverty, whatever you like!), you end it with something like "Some food for thought" or "以上はfood for thoughtです。" whether or not that'd be weird...
Not necessarily an equivalent, perhaps something with the same feel.

Were you looking for something formal or a bit more casual ? If the former, K Young san's idea is good.

 

[Fuumei]

Question time... | Japan Forum
Scroll to the bottom until you arrive at #2, 3 in my possibly short but attempt to be distinguishing with ということ list. :

Ah thank you Elizabeth-san, I appreciate it. :

 

[Exidez]

It's kind of like "cross my heart and hope to die, stick a needle in my eye" in English.
When making promises, shaking hands with only your little finger makes the promise "more serious".

Thank you, no wonder I couldn't find it on alc.co.jp. It is labelled 指切りげんまん
I didn't know the kanji

Thanks!!!

 

[Elizabeth]

change of topic:
I just read a manga and came across the following:
お前次第...ってとこかな
and I really can't make anything of it... context is a lover's dispute...
sorry to ask again before even my last request has been answered but otherwise I'll probably just forget about it...

Don't give up on us yet... This one you probably know more than you realize, it only falls apart when too directly translated. Anyway, the person is saying "I guess it's up to you" ってとこですね。

お前 You

次第 Depends on/is up to

...ってとこ Means

かな I guess (not literally "I wonder" in this context...).

HTH!

 

[Charles Barkley]

Elizabeth: the initiator was indeed a high school boy.

 

[Charles Barkley]

Anyway, the person is saying "I guess it's up to you" ってとこですね。

...ってとこ Means

Is ってとこ a shortened form of something else? Now that I think about it, I think I have seen this before a lot but usually skip over it. How exactly do you use the phrase?

One more question. Again from an article about the recent shooting:

馬込容疑者は経済的に追い込まれた状況で、倉本さんへの思いも一方的だったとされる.

What exactly does the とされる here mean? I came across it in another passage in my current textbook:

アメリカ大陸はコロンブスが発見したとされている。

Does it mean something like: 'it is speculated that'? I know that to suru can be used to mean something like, 'let's suppose,' so is that what's happening here?

 

[Mikawa Ossan]

Ok, got a few phrases again... I tried to figure out the correct way of saying the indicated phrases in Japanese.

hope someone can help

Thanks!

"Put your jackets here please."
上着はこちらへどうぞ。

"The admission fee is 7 euro."
チケットは７ユーロです。

"There are discounts for students and Vienna-Card Holders."
学生やウィーンカードをもっている方には割引があります。

"It's ok to take the handbag with you."
ハンドバッグを持ってもいいです。

With all respect to Elizabeth, I will also respond again.

The first one is probably fine as it is.

The second one would be more accurate to use the word 入場料 (or to be more accurate for a museum 入館料) in place of チケット.

The third one would probably be better rendered as:
学生やウィーンカードのお持ちのお客様には割引があります。
I know there's a better way to say this yet, but I can't think of it off hand.

I think for the third one, it would help to know specifically what is meant in the English. Is it referring to the patron's personal item or rather to a bag which is given to them by the museum, for example? (I know how stupid that may sound, but I have learned never to take such things for granted.) Also, do you mean that it is OK to take the handbag into the museum or something else?

 

[briareos]

Someone left this as a note on one of my flickr photos. Any idea what it means?

ｶﾜｲｲ

 

[Elizabeth]

With all respect to Elizabeth, I will also respond again.

Sorry. I was in a big rush and didn't consider the final part, the 博物館の話.

私の意見ははじめの質問について述べたものですね。ごめん。

The first one is probably fine as it is.
The second one would be more accurate to use the word 入場料 (or to be more accurate for a museum 入館料) in place of チケット.
The third one would probably be better rendered as:
学生やウィーンカードのお持ちのお客様には割引があります。
I know there's a better way to say this yet, but I can't think of it off hand.

学生の方、または、ウィーンカードをお持ちの方には割引がございます。 maybe ??


I think for the third one, it would help to know specifically what is meant in the English. Is it referring to the patron's personal item or rather to a bag which is given to them by the museum, for example? (I know how stupid that may sound, but I have learned never to take such things for granted.) Also, do you mean that it is OK to take the handbag into the museum or something else?

「かばん」といった方が無難でしょうね。

 

[K-Young]

「かばん」といった方が無難でしょうね。

バッグ (or wrongly-but-often pronounced バック） is taking the place of かばん. It barely survives in some cases, bags for students or male workers. And as in かばん持ち, bag carrier. It means a politician's secretary (male, mostly).

 

[Elizabeth]

Is ってとこ a shortened form of something else? Now that I think about it, I think I have seen this before a lot but usually skip over it. How exactly do you use the phrase?

多分、「ってこと」は、「ということだ」を短くしたので俗語っぽいですね。
その文章によって使い方、意味はそれぞれ異なってきますよね。

 

[Elizabeth]

One more question. Again from an article about the recent shooting:
馬込容疑者は経済的に追い込まれた状況で、倉本さんへの思いも一方的だったとされる.
What exactly does the とされる here mean? I came across it in another passage in my current textbook:
アメリカ大陸はコロンブスが発見したとされている。
Does it mean something like: 'it is speculated that'? I know that to suru can be used to mean something like, 'let's suppose,' so is that what's happening here?

I think it is used for reporting facts and information that are largely believed, or range from probably almost certainly true, but can't be either personally verified or checked out at 100% accuracy.

 

[Charles Barkley]

多分、「ってこと」は、「ということだ」を短くしたので俗語っぽいですね。
その文章によって使い方、意味はそれぞれ異なってきますよね。

I figured ってこと was probably ということ、but in the above posts it was written ってとこ。 Was that just a typing mistake, or have they come to be different informal versions of the same thing?

 

[orochi]

I figured ってこと was probably ということ、but in the above posts it was written ってとこ。 Was that just a typing mistake, or have they come to be different informal versions of the same thing?

ってところ


とこ is used as an abbreviation for ところ very often in casual speech.

 

[Mikawa Ossan]

学生の方、または、ウィーンカードをお持ちの方には割引がございます。 maybe ??

Honestly, I don't like using the word "waribiki" for this sentence. I personally like 優待料金 or something like that better, but I'm not entirely certain that would be used in "the wild", as prices are always clearly marked with the separate rates.

I think for the third one, it would help to know specifically what is meant in the English. Is it referring to the patron's personal item or rather to a bag which is given to them by the museum, for example? (I know how stupid that may sound, but I have learned never to take such things for granted.) Also, do you mean that it is OK to take the handbag into the museum or something else?

「かばん」といった方が無難でしょうね。

I personally prefer "kaban" but "handobaggu" does sound more stylish and chic, wouldn't you agree?

 

[briareos]

Does anyone know what this means?

"kimono niwa awanai kamo ..."

 

[Niedy]

Don't give up on us yet... This one you probably know more than you realize, it only falls apart when too directly translated. Anyway, the person is saying "I guess it's up to you" ってとこですね。

お前 You

次第 Depends on/is up to

...ってとこ Means

かな I guess (not literally "I wonder" in this context...).

HTH!

I'm not giving up on you... I just felt bad for requesting so much in a short time...

so what does ~てとこ(ろ) actually mean? I couldn't find it in my grammar book...

thanks for the help

 

[Niedy]

I know there's a better way to say this yet, but I can't think of it off hand.
I think for the third one, it would help to know specifically what is meant in the English. Is it referring to the patron's personal item or rather to a bag which is given to them by the museum, for example? (I know how stupid that may sound, but I have learned never to take such things for granted.) Also, do you mean that it is OK to take the handbag into the museum or something else?

入館料 right... I learned that before... should have remembered...

and the handobaggu is referring to a personal bag... a purse or whatever you like to call it in some museums here you're not allowed to carry them with you while looking around... but the one I was applying to did allow it... so that's what I wanted to say

Thanks for your help!

 

[Elizabeth]

I'm not giving up on you... I just felt bad for requesting so much in a short time...

so what does ~てとこ(ろ) actually mean? I couldn't find it in my grammar book...

thanks for the help

In this case I would read it as "like" as in "you na"...Although maybe someone else can help me get the English to come out better...It's like it's up to you....☝ "I guess it's up to you" is still the flavor it gives out to me.

Honestly, I don't like using the word "waribiki" for this sentence. I personally like 優待料金 or something like that better, but I'm not entirely certain that would be used in "the wild", as prices are always clearly marked with the separate rates.
I personally prefer "kaban" but "handobaggu" does sound more stylish and chic, wouldn't you agree?

I know some people that have the image of "baggu" as a tall, stylish looking purse as well. So the whole situation is very confusing. Personally I never learned kaban as generic, or anything other than a briefcase or student bag and maybe totebag, etc.

 

[briareos]

Does anyone know what this means?
"kimono niwa awanai kamo ..."

And this statement too:

" koko no mawari no chiisai sima zenbu shop desu"

thanks!

 

[Buntaro]

briareos,

"kimono niwa awanai kamo ..."

--> This (piece of clothing) probably does not go along with (match) a kimono.

kimonon = kimono

awanai = does not match

ka mo = probably not

"koko no mawari no chiisai sima zenbu shop desu"

--> This entire small island is surrounded by shops.

koko no = this

mawari = surrounding, surrounded

chiisai shima = small island

zembu = all

shop = shop (?)

desu = is

 

[briareos]

Thanks a lot! That really helped!