Yosegaki Hinomaru

[Trehocs]

Hi.

Even the fact that Majestic has already given some information (Many thanks Majestic!!!). I would like to get your help on translation and also opinion about this flag.

Thank you all!!!

 

[Trehocs]

Hello.

I found what it seems to be a sionist prayer in a good luck flag. It´s 阿宇乾坤、神人感應 but I don´t fully get its meaning in english.

Could anyone help me?

I attached a picture of the sentence that it´s just next some bizarre symbols that I don´t know if are related to the prayer.

Thank you all!!

 

[nice gaijin]

hm, looks like nonsense to me. Can you post an image of the whole flag?

 

[Trehocs]

I found that it's linked to Nichiren Shu. Still trying to get more information but I found this website 姓名尊重と信名悟頌: 神秘姓名總鑑

 

[nice gaijin]

I was referring to the markings on the right. They certainly aren't written Japanese

 

[Trehocs]

Thanks for your answer. Attached picture

 

[nice gaijin]

Thanks for your answer. Attached picture

Thank you, strange that's the only place those symbols show up. @Toritoribe is there some kind of written code I didn't know about?

 

[Toritoribe]

I merged the threads.

This is another one I found, a book regarding a new religion, lineage of Shinto .

神道丶心道聖頌 - NDL Digital Collections

The NDL Digital Collections enables a user to search and view a variety of resources, collected and stored by the National Diet Library of Japan.

dl.ndl.go.jp

Anyway, the flag seems questionable to me.

 

[Trehocs]

Toritoribe, could you explain a little further about that new religion?

Could a flag be fake even have the shrine stamp?

Thanks!!!

 

[Toritoribe]

could you explain a little further about that new religion?

It's 丶心道 Chushintō founded by 熊崎健翁 Kumasaki Ken'ō in 1932.

熊崎健翁 - Wikipedia

ja.wikipedia.org

(all in Japanese)

Could a flag be fake even have the shrine stamp?

Yes, of course, because anyone can make stamps even now. Furthermore, even if the flag and stamp(s) are genuine, it can't be a conclusive evidence just by itself because there were/are blank(=no signature) genuine flags with genuine stamp(s), and anyone can write anything on it later.

 

[Trehocs]

Thanks Toritoribe.

So, are there any tips to know if a stamp is genuine or not? Because if everybody could do a stamp, fake the names and the locations and even gather some other people so signatures really look different one from each other, how to know if a flag it´s geniuine or not?

 

[Toritoribe]

You can find the genuine stamp of 太平山三吉神社 by googling with the name of the shrine, for example in the following site.

御朱印・御朱印帳：太平山三吉神社総本宮（秋田県秋田駅） | ホトカミ - 神社お寺の投稿サイト

太平山三吉神社総本宮（秋田県秋田駅）の御朱印・御朱印帳です。太平山三吉神社総本宮（秋田県秋田駅）に投稿された御朱印・御朱印帳掲載中。参拝記録をチェックして、太平山三吉神社総本宮にお参りしませんか？

hotokami.jp

I believe it's hard to gather dozens of people who can write kanji at least outside of Japan. If all signatures are written only by several people, the flag is suspicious enough.

 

[Trehocs]

Thanks Toritoribe.

Please, could you give me your opinion about this one?

 

[Trehocs]

 

[Toritoribe]

Seems like a souvenir for US soldiers.

 

[Trehocs]

So not a real flag that belonged to a Japanese soldier, right?

 

[Toritoribe]

Right. You would be able to find similar flags in this forum.

 

[Trehocs]

Please, could you help me with the translation of these words? I am trying to use google translator but I am not able to get all the kanjis.

 

[Toritoribe]

Those are all signatures.

 

[Trehocs]

Thanks Toritoribe. Please, could you write the kanjis? Then I will have them as references if I find them in the future and I will not have to being asking all the time for translaction.

 

[Toritoribe]

It's said that there are nearly 300,000 surnames in Japan. Of course there are many uncommon ones among them, but you would need to have hundreds or maybe thousands of surnames for reference in your list. You also need to gather given names, needless to say.

Another and a more difficult problem is that hand-written signatures often look quite different from printed ones. It's often hard to read even for natives. For example, the second name from the left in the first picture is 河内政治郎. Do you think you can identify the kanji used there?

 

[Trehocs]

I was only trying to get a way of being more able to indentify each part of the flag without asking all the time but yes I would have never said that these kanjis were the same as the flag. I´ll keep asking everytime I´d need some advice. Thanks Toritoribe

 

[Trehocs]

Please, could you help me with the translation of this?

 

[Toritoribe]

為高山傳造君
日本國際航空工業株式會社
For Takayama Denzō
Japan International Aviation Industries Ltd

This company was the predecessor of the present Nissan Shatai Co., Ltd.

Nissan Shatai - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Trehocs]

Thanks Toritoribe.
Please could you confirm if there are any slogans or only names?