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Master of Time said:

Suspect. I did not assume. That is why I asked. The " fitting" part referred to the censorship only....that the censorship vid was censored.



I do not troll.

I think is what is happening is that you are not understanding some things and not accepting others. If there is any relation to me, maybe its my word choice.....and of course....my flagrant disregard for people's more petty emotions....which is a constant for me. Its hard enough to get the logic straight just dealing with the logic....to try and navigate the minefield of people's oversensitivity? I will pass.

I won't address any more of that post just so you know.

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Convenient of you to say all that about how logical and non-petty you are, and ignore my reiterated direct on-topic prompt for your own ideas. That's thrice now that you've chosen to keep the thread derailed.

You're clearly just full of hot air and have no ideas, only complaints and--dare I say it--petty grievances. You'd rather bemoan the lack of respect your great ideas get than put any effort into presenting them in an effective way.

nice gaijin said:

Convenient of you to say all that about how logical and non-petty you are, and ignore my reiterated direct on-topic prompt for your own ideas. That's thrice now that you've chosen to keep the thread derailed.

You're clearly just full of hot air and have no ideas, only complaints and--dare I say it--petty grievances. You'd rather bemoan the lack of respect your great ideas get than put any effort into presenting them in an effective way.

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What I said was you are not listening and have no intent to, and you are not posting in a solid way that can be engaged. You can claim all you want and ask all you want, but if you don't want a discussion in good faith I won't give you one.

But I will give you videos. It saves me a lot of time.

Jordan Peterson on gender politics and the pay gap myth

Robert Sapolsky introduces Evolutionary Psychology

Dr. Debra Soh debunks gender spectrum -- great words in this one....vocal, aggressive, unethical

So, no forthcoming original ideas about how to improve representation, or even whether you think that's a valuable aspiration.

I've heard enough of Peterson swerving out of his area of expertise; I'm not going to subject myself to any more of him. Debra Soh's thesis was on male hypersexuality and paraphilia, and holds no expertise on gender as I can tell, but has earned attention for validating transphobia. From that video it seems that despite her own experiences she's firmly entrenched in the "gender is a biological binary" camp, ignoring the measurable biological spectrum I posted about earlier and conflating gender with sexuality. They see gender as a fence, you have to fall on one side or the other. Like I've said, that's simplistic and reductive, and ignores the actual science. It's only become a hot topic because its polarization can be exploited.

Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson, Debra Soh... If these are the people you let speak for you, that says enough about how you see the subject. I'm done here.

nice gaijin said:

So, no forthcoming original ideas about how to improve representation, or even whether you think that's a valuable aspiration.

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No. After all......

nice gaijin said:

You've talked a lot about what you believe, with no qualifying rationale, but this isn't a matter of faith; the subjects you're talking are actual fields of study with bodies of work from professionals who have dedicated their careers to these questions, and I trust their expertise (and the experiences of individuals directly affected by this area of study) over the opinions of laymen.

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(shrug) This is why I offered opinions of experts...with....degrees and stuff.

BTW I don't know who Matt Walsh is. Hmmm.....somewhere around here I am pretty sure you mentioned something about strawmen.

nice gaijin said:

Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson, Debra Soh... If these are the people you let speak for you, that says enough about how you see the subject. I'm done here.

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Master of Time said:

(shrug)

BTW I don't know who Matt Walsh is. Hmmm.....somewhere around here I am pretty sure you mentioned something about strawmen.

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You posted this in this very thread.

Master of Time said:

Meanwhile, again its right off the bat, most of us in the English speaking world won't even try to define what a woman is and its out of terror. Who is gaining anything through over-simpathetic cowardice? I don't even think women are through the men engaging in it!

What is a woman? Dare you even answer?

If not, how are you going to properly evaluate all these claims of gender inequality?

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It's not a strawman if you're the one setting them in front of yourself and letting them speak for you, not to mention cribbing their catch phrase. Take care now

nice gaijin said:

You posted this in this very thread.

It's not a strawman if you're the one setting them in front of yourself and letting them speak for you, not to mention cribbing their catch phrase. Take care now

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Yep. You got me. I posted that 3 months ago.

I forgot his name. Never heard of him before that. Never cared to remember his name. Because names don't matter to me. Facts do. See, I never posted a video because a name was in there. I post videos because good information is in there. If I say a name its because that person has been giving good info (or bad, or something like that). I posted the video, but I don't think I ever said his name.....because his name never really mattered.

We may never see eye to eye because obviously you care about names very much, but it seems mostly the reason so that you can do character assassination. I am sure you believe Adolf Hitler never said a true word in his entire life. I am not fan of his, but I might cite him sometime....just because he was not always lying.

So....you proclaimed to trust experts, but, who these mysterious experts are, I don't know.

But anyway, good job dodging the point about you insisting you don't listen to laymen in one post then trying to stick it to me for not offering my own ideas anymore. I would not say anyone "speaks for me", but you have already insisted you won't listen to me for being a layman, so, I offer you videos from others (thought I never claimed Walsh was an expert).

Moving on, the key reason we are not getting anywhere is because you are stonewalling so hard. As to why you are stonewalling so hard, I will leave that to you to figure out.