Working overtime in Japan

[Mike Cash]

I'm not "easily deceived", Orochi. It's that my personal experience in Japanese labor goes back to when you were about halfway through elementary school. Talking theory is dandy, but I'm too familiar with the reality on the ground to put much stock in what you're saying. Whether your ideas are in theory correct or not isn't even relevant, from my viewpoint. I worked 18 hours yesterday, and I'm going to get paid for a full eight hour day. And I'm not unique.

 

[orochi]

You may accept things as they are, and I do as well. However, I see a glint of hope. And if others think and speak out like myself, then things might get better for everybody. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[FrustratedDave]

More people need to do just that. If a job treats its employees poorly, and the workers are afraid to speak up for their own rights, they either join a union and let it fight things out, or they leave.
Ideally, all workers would be in a union which is strong enough to negotiate for them, but realistically, this does not always/usually happen. One can be an activist and try coaxing coworkers to stand up for their rights alone, but it's a very hard thing to do. Join a union (or contact the labor standards office), or leave with some polite but firm words to the boss about his poor treatment. Let your coworkers know why you leave, and try to let others interested in the vacancies know, too. (This last point happens a lot in the teaching world.)

Yeah and "GM"(Goverment motors) is a great example as to how unions are such great assets to a company...Not.

Lucky for me I don't live in America and have to pay tax to the government just so defunct companies can stay afloat.

Yeah, Orochi, keep up those pipe dreams.

 

[orochi]

Yeah, Orochi, keep up those pipe dreams.

Of course. Somebody's got to do it!