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What is the criteria necessary to become a moderator here on JRef?

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Please....

leave me off the list, I'm TOOOOOOO crazy,daisy,hazy,krazy,lazy,racey.

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Mike Cash said:
Not very likely to happen.
Take a look at the number of people logged onto JREF at any given time.
For example, when I came it it was:
Currently Active Users: 366 (15 members and 351 guests) - Total users last 1hrs : 576 (25 members and 551 guests)
As you can see, those of us who actually open our mouths on any given topic and actively participate are a distinct minority.

If I may, "Currently Active Users: 366" means people browsing the forum right now, including non-registered users. "Users last 1hrs" means all the registered users who have visited in the last hour. There is a 3rd stat at the bottom of the main index : "Active Members: 1,281" which refers to people who have posted recently.
 

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Let me shed some light on the way moderators are chosen. First of all, members do not normally ask to become moderators (only 1 or 2 of the team members ever did ask, and were not considered until months later). They are normally asked by Thomas or myself, and in any case after having consulted each others, and often also the team of moderators.

To be eligible, members need to have been registered for several months, have posted a considerable number of post, showed a good knowledge of Japan or the subforum they will be asked to moderate, and have a personality deemed adequate enough for the position.

In some cases existing moderators can propose someone to the admins to become moderator, but admins are the one who make the final decision.

Moderators are chosen also in function of the current needs in various categories of the forum. Some categories require more moderation or more specific knowledge or skills than others.

Please keep in mind that no one will be selected as moderator if at least an admin (or a moderator if their opinion is requested) has a serious objection.
 

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Maciamo said:
Please keep in mind that no one will be selected as moderator if at least an admin (or a moderator if their opinion is requested) has a serious objection.


Basically no matter how qualified the individual may be, if they are not 100% a "yes man" to Maciamo there is no chance of them being selected. God forbid there was a well rounded staff, or someone who disagreed with management, but thought of the greater good of the forum.😊
 

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but you are part of the management now...:p

I do appreciate your honesty though!
 

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CC1, we have almost 19,000 members on this board. I am sure that hundreds if not thousands could qualify to become moderators, but we only need a dozen of them. So it is only fair to select them according to the Team's own preferences.
 

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CC1 said:
Basically no matter how qualified the individual may be, if they are not 100% a "yes man" to Maciamo there is no chance of them being selected. God forbid there was a well rounded staff, or someone who disagreed with management, but thought of the greater good of the forum.😊
Well, if anyone does come on they are going to be naturally suspect as part of the Establishment....not that anyone in their right mind would particularly want the job now. :p
 

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Maciamo said:
CC1, we have almost 19,000 members on this board. I am sure that hundreds if not thousands could qualify to become moderators, but we only need a dozen of them. So it is only fair to select them according to the Team's own preferences.

I notice Eupedia also has that many members! That is one successful website you made there for the forum to be that popular in that short of an amount of time!
 

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CC1, we have almost 19,000 members on this board. I am sure that hundreds if not thousands could qualify to become moderators, but we only need a dozen of them. So it is only fair to select them according to the Team's own preferences.

Um, I hate to ruin your sense of success in the feild of forum-running but some odd wierd niggling little part deep down in me says that the vast vast vast vast majority of those members are non-posters or whatever and havnt been back since, with a small little topping of old members who no longer visit either forum.

Just a crazy hunch.

Maciamo, how did you manage to convince yourself that the 19,000 number was actually legit?....I mean, if we had 19,000 real members I just have this odd feeling it would be somewhat more noticable round here.
Since the active-member count will be lucky to break 100, as sad as that is, the number of potential moderators, coupled with perhaps managements strict criteria, means that very few potential mods exist on this forum under current considorations.

I think thats why its important to make sure the forum maintains an enviroment that makes the current mods happy to stick around and do their job while enjoying the forum, and help towards moulding potential replacement mods out of the active members that currently exist.
How is Eupedia's actual active member + active mod/management number?.
Generally I am finding both forums have just a less then avarage input, then usual, but this is acceptable due to our specialist audiences, Jref for Japan related discussion and Eupedia as the new official forum for the European Union official website (actually thats an idea, you should see if they have a forum yet).

Aside from that Jref is healthy as it can be considoring all things, as I said, I think a slight re-organization of forums and sub-forums to clean it up a bit, and more forum based articles for folk to read would improve traffic a bit but Jref seems comfortable and in no sudden danger so, all in all the forum is acceptable.

I've read some things here and there about Eupedia suffering a member shortage, but I'm sure Maciamo is ontop of that, the EU is a big place, with the right actions taken I'm sure it shouldnt be hard to get members in.
Perhaps getting it advertised in a European related magazine or website may improve the hits on the forum?.

Edit: Just an idea that popped into my head, though its probably a bit unpopular so not too serious, what about requiring people to sign up to the forum to view it? many websites and forums do this but as I said, this isnt entirely a popular thing, and will probably contradict the general policy around here of allowing freedom of infomation and articles, forum or website based for viewing.
 

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Because Eupedia used to be a part of Jref, the members were the same.

then there was the split. Do you take all the users with you, or do you let everybody make a new members acount? So I think there should be no problem with this, and I don`t understand why you guys want to make Eupedia look bad, in this way... Searching for everything that is wrong with it.. come one. (if I am wrong sorry about it, but I don`t get the feeling that I am wrong with this.)

Just do your thing here, have fun posting, and stop searching for bad all the time.
 

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Dutch Baka said:
Because Eupedia used to be a part of Jref, the members were the same.

then there was the split. Do you take all the users with you, or do you let everybody make a new members acount? So I think there should be no problem with this, and I don`t understand why you guys want to make Eupedia look bad, in this way... Searching for everything that is wrong with it.. come one. (if I am wrong sorry about it, but I don`t get the feeling that I am wrong with this.)

Just do your thing here, have fun posting, and stop searching for bad all the time.

Dutch for me at least it would be more enjoyable if people from over there quit having authority over here. The two have not split when you have people from here automatically entered into the membership base over there. I dont remember ever being given a choice in the matter.

Don't you find it the least bit strange that people that are banned on one site are allowed to post on the other? That tells me that at least to a certain extent the two sites are separate. It would make things easier here for some people imo if the cord was 100% cut and the admin and staff no longer have controls over each others sites.

The problems over there were brought over here and not vice versa if I am reading things correctly.
 

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Dutch Baka said:
Because Eupedia used to be a part of Jref, the members were the same.
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So someone who joined JREF years ago, posted a couple of times, and has never come back is counted as a "member" of Eupedia? A place they not only didn't sign up for but probably don't even know exists?

It reminds me of the Mormon church posthumously making people members of their church.
 

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We have informed our members at the Japan Forum several times that they may request to be removed from the Eupedia database:

We will need to import all current users into the new Eupedia database, however, we will comply with any requests to be removed from the new forum. Current members will be able to post at both fora.

=> https://jref.com/showthread.php?t=22675
 

Mike Cash

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thomas said:
We have informed our members at the Japan Forum several times that they may request to be removed from the Eupedia database:
=> https://jref.com/showthread.php?t=22675

That's very nice and thanks for pointing that out to us.

I would like to be removed, if I'm on the Eupedia database.

And while the option to request removal is gracious and appreciated, shouldn't this have been an "opt-in" rather than an "opt-out" deal?
 

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Mike Cash said:
That's very nice and thanks for pointing that out to us.

I would like to be removed, if I'm on the Eupedia database.

And while the option to request removal is gracious and appreciated, shouldn't this have been an "opt-in" rather than an "opt-out" deal?

What about people that "joined" the board after the split or the thread regarding the "opt-out"?

I don't see any disclaimer that informs people when they are signing up here that they are "automatically" joining a board that they may have had no interest in anyway.

Thomas your thread date was 17-03-06, do you honestly expect people that joined after that date to be aware of this?
https://jref.com/showthread.php?t=22675

I also would appreciate it if my name was removed from the Europedia database as well. I joined this forum because it was about Japan and not Europe.

Personally I have no interest in "that" forum.
 

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Mike Cash said:
That's very nice and thanks for pointing that out to us.
I would like to be removed, if I'm on the Eupedia database.
And while the option to request removal is gracious and appreciated, shouldn't this have been an "opt-in" rather than an "opt-out" deal?

Mike, I have removed you from Eupedia.

An "opt-in" would have been possible in case we had started the Eupedia forum from scratch which we didn't. I clearly understand your point of view as a JREF member not interested in European affairs. However, our approach as maintainers of JREF and Eupedia was different - for technical and "entrepreneurial" reasons. Sorry for any inconvenience.


Hachiro said:
What about people that "joined" the board after the split or the thread regarding the "opt-out"?

Well, members who joined any of our fora after the split are either JREF or Eupedia members. There is no automatic membership at both fora.

I have removed you too, Mr. Hachiro.
 

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Well, members who joined any of our fora after the split are either JREF or Eupedia members. There is no automatic membership at both fora.

I have removed you too, Mr. Hachiro.

Thank you, I only brought that up because I don't know if you noticed this or not I joined this board in May of this year, May 2nd to be exact, and your thread was dated March 17, 2006.

I was automatically included in the Europedia database. I never signed up for it but the three or four times I read posts there I had used my log-in name from here and it worked.

So it appeared to me at least that I was an "automatic" member there, as well as here.

Either way thank you for taking the time out to remove me from "it's" database.
 

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I think you mean you joined on February 5th. They use the screwy European convention for the date, which throws me every time I see it.
 

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Mike Cash said:
I think you mean you joined on February 5th. They use the screwy European convention for the date, which throws me every time I see it.

Good Lord you are right.........thank you for that......sorry about that Thomas.
 

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Still OT

They could at least expand the year field to four digits. On first glance, one can't tell whether I joined on March 6, 2005, May 3 or March 5, 2006. Since this is a Japan forum, they could always have it display like 06窶扼3ナ椎ス窶啜窶愿コ.
 
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