Question What does "杓子新報" mean?

AnnieSunny · 12 May 2022

I can't understand how to translate "杓子新報" properly.

I try to translate a game, and recently I stmubled upon this heading in game's newspaper.

I need to mention, that I already found that "新報"("Shinpō") actually means "news" and
commonly used in newspaper's names, for example "歌舞伎新報" ("Kabuki News").

I also found out that "杓子" ("Shakushi") actually means "ladle" or "scoop", but I can't get a connection.

I even thought that it can be something like "scoop news".

I realize, that it can be just a title from developer's imagination and can only be translated as "Shakushi News" or something like that. But maybe there can be different meaning. What do you think?

I am grateful in advance.

mdchachi · 12 May 2022

AnnieSunny said:
I realize, that it can be just a title from developer's imagination and can only be translated as "Shakushi News" or something like that.

This is the only thing that makes sense to me. Is there a character named Shakushi?

AnnieSunny · 12 May 2022

mdchachi said:
This is the only thing that makes sense to me. Is there a character named Shakushi?

Oh no, there isn't. This name have nothing connected with game. Just a name. But I was thinking about accuracy of my translation.
But you may be right and it doesn't need word-for-word translation . Anyway, thanks for your answer!

mdchachi · 12 May 2022

Probably an insider easter egg put in by the artist or game designer.

AnnieSunny · 12 May 2022

mdchachi said:
Probably an insider easter egg put in by the artist or game designer.

Yes, I guess so.

Toritoribe · 12 May 2022

What comes to my mind is that it might be from an idiom 杓子定規 "sticking to rules/going by hard‐and‐fast rules".

AnnieSunny · 12 May 2022

Toritoribe said:
What comes to my mind is that it might be from an idiom 杓子定規 "sticking to rules/going by hard‐and‐fast rules".

Oh, I've never heard about it. But It's an interesting assumption. I'll try to find more about this idiom.
Thank you so much for telling be about it!

Toritoribe · 12 May 2022

If the story or character(s) has something to do with cat, it could be a word play of a proverb 猫も杓子も.

Anyway, 杓子 is a noun for cookware, and never means "scoop" as "exclusive news" in Japanese.

AnnieSunny · 12 May 2022

Toritoribe said:
If the story or character(s) has something to do with cat, it could be a word play of a proverb 猫も杓子も.

Anyway, 杓子 is a noun for cookware, and never means "scoop" as "exclusive news" in Japanese.

Ok, I got it, thank you so much! Unfortunately, It has nothing to do with cat, but it can be a reference to anything.
By the way, when I started to look for idioms that contain "杓子", I found this one "杓子果報".
And I noticed that "杓子果報" has almost the same spelling as "杓子新報", so maybe it is also some kind of rephrasing.

Toritoribe · 12 May 2022

I've never heard that four-character idiom, but yes, 杓子新報 could be taken from it.

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