Oh, no, no, please do not say such a thing! This is a very rare case where I made correction to your post. Your contributions to this forum so far are no doubt huge and incredible. We definitely need you who are fluent in both languages and who can see things from English speakers' viewpoint. Hope you'll give us your insightful replies in the future, too, sincerely.In any event, I think my posts today are showing me that it's time to take another extended break from internet forums, as I'm probably doing more harm to my own mental health and to all of you than I'm doing anything resembling good.
Cheers to you all.
mdchachi said:I've never seen you do anything but good here. If it was anything I said, I apologize.
Toritoribe said:Hope you'll give us your insightful replies in the future, too, sincerely.
Please, stay around to answer at least my questions! I really enjoy your take on the texts, your knowledge and energy! And I love the fact that you have a passion for your profession and see literary translation as a form of art. I usually come here with my bad and lazy English just to clarify some points and get the gist of what is written to elaborate it further in my own language but it is so helpful! Everybody here contributes with their knowledge and I have learned a lot along all these years...But yes, I fully admit to being biased here. And yes, I'm already older than I'd like to be and probably won't be enjoying a particularly long life given my recent health, and I doubt I'll be encouraging my daughter to follow in my footsteps, even if she does show an interest in language.
In any event, I think my posts today are showing me that it's time to take another extended break from internet forums, as I'm probably doing more harm to my own mental health and to all of you than I'm doing anything resembling good.
Cheers to you all.
Hi, Tori! Yes, this なんでもいいから sounds more rhetorical than anything to me... Trying to figure out how to translate it into my language... Thank you!なんでもいいから is more likely "at any rate/anyhow". The rest are OK.
Thank you! I was so focused on 括り that it never occurred to me that it could be a compound word.Its a kind of compound word, no? 括り枕
She's bringing it from room to room.
括枕(くくりまくら)とは？ 意味や使い方 - コトバンク
精選版 日本国語大辞典 - 括枕の用語解説 - 括枕〈吉原美人合〉〘 名詞 〙 そばがら、茶がらなどを入れ、両端をくくりとめて作った枕。箱枕、木枕などに対していう。くくり。[初出の実例]「つぼむ花はくくり枕かぬる胡蝶〈延勝〉」(出典：俳諧・毛吹草（1638）五)kotobank.jp
Hum, that's another take on this phrase... I don't know if a little more context can help but here it goes. Maybe someone else has another idea:I read this as 兎って せかせかと動くことなんかは 出来ません。
Rabbits - they just cant move hastily.
But, in English it seems very counter-intuitive, as we tend to think of rabbits as moving quickly, so maybe I have this wrong.
No, no rabbits so far.Are there literal rabbits in the story? This is what DEEPL translates it to:
I tried to crawl around the house. I can't move so fast because of the rabbits. Sometimes the walls of my house are so noisy that I can't help it.
Hi, good to see you here! What you wrote makes sense. But it could be a typo as well. I've converted an old digitalized image of the book into text. You can find it online here: 誓言 - ジャパンサーチI mean no offense at all, but I really people wouldn't push DeepL (or any machine translation) as the way to understand -- well, any Japanese, but especially extremely nuanced, literary Japanese. DeepL literally has no insight whatsoever as to the greater context of the story, and does not possess a more fundamentally enlightened knowledge of the text than karenk, Majestic, you, or literally any human being analyzing this.
If there are no "rabbits" in this story, I would be very, very, strongly inclined to think that is _not_ in any way the correct interpretation.
兎 can be read as "と" and とて is an expression, so it could possibly be related to that sort of meaning, but I can't say this is something I've encountered previously, so I'm hesitant to speak definitively about it. (Which means I guess I should probably shut up about DeepL? But still, I feel the need to discourage the use of machine translation as a way of truly understanding Japanese.)
I think that I need a prescription for reading glasses... I read the original passage many times and simply missed the もWelcome back, bentenmusume-san!!
It's not a typo of 兎, but you missed a hiragana. The original text is 兎てもせかせかと動く事なんかは出來ません. This is a kind of 当て字 for とても, as bentenmusume-san suggested.
とても【兎ても】
当て字語典
夏目漱石 is well-known for using these kinds of 当て字, like 兎に角 for とにかく or 矢張り for やはり.
You've chastised me about DeepL before but it's just another reference. A.I. tools like this provide a different perspective because it's pattern matching at a scale and in a different way than humans. To me it's no different than looking words up in jisho.org or asking random people on the Internet. It's just one more reference or "opinion" if you will. Obviously it's going to have difficulty with characteristics peculiar to this author.I mean no offense at all, but I really people wouldn't push DeepL (or any machine translation) as the way to understand -- well, any Japanese, but especially extremely nuanced, literary Japanese. DeepL literally has no insight whatsoever as to the greater context of the story, and does not possess a more fundamentally enlightened knowledge of the text than karenk, Majestic, you, or literally any human being analyzing this.
If there are no "rabbits" in this story, I would be very, very, strongly inclined to think that is _not_ in any way the correct interpretation.
兎 can be read as "と" and とて is an expression, so it could possibly be related to that sort of meaning, but I can't say this is something I've encountered previously, so I'm hesitant to speak definitively about it. (Which means I guess I should probably shut up about DeepL? But still, I feel the need to discourage the use of machine translation as a way of truly understanding Japanese.)
Hmm, I think 自超 would mean "to surpass oneself", and 自超して shows that it expresses how she lives.So, I have some other things I'd like to check with you. How would interpret 自超して? I understand that her art allowed her to lead an "indepent/self-sufficient" life, but is that so?
It's 自分の、女と云ふ事, i.e., 自分の modifies the whole 女と云ふ事, not just 女. 自分が女であると云ふ事 makes more sense, maybe?Now, here I got confused: 私はすべてに向つて自分の女と云ふ事を忘れてゐる事が出來ました. What could she be meaning with 自分の女? That she could forget that she was a "married woman", a woman whose identity was attached to her marriage?
But is it a word that she made up, a kind of neologism, or does it exist? Is it common to employ ideograms to express a notion even when the word can't be found in a dictionary (well, I couldn't find it)?Hmm, I think 自超 would mean "to surpass oneself", and 自超して shows that it expresses how she lives.
That makes much more sense, I guessed that this could be the meaning implicit in the phrase, but again, is it a common phrasal construction?It's 自分の、女と云ふ事, i.e., 自分の modifies the whole 女と云ふ事, not just 女. 自分が女であると云ふ事 makes more sense, maybe?
I couldn't find it in dictionaries, either, but google search results show that an athlete and his coach use 自超力 as 自分を超える力. Even if it's a coined word, the readers can understand the meaning when the word is used in an appropriate context.But is it a word that she made up, a kind of neologism, or does it exist? Is it common to employ ideograms to express a notion even when the word can't be found in a dictionary (well, I couldn't find it)?
The structure/wording is uncommon, so it's a bit confusing, but I think the readers would be able to get the meaning correctly from the context.That makes much more sense, I guessed that this could be the meaning implicit in the phrase, but again, is it a common phrasal construction?