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Should a female be allowed to ascend the throne in Japan?

Every report I've seen about this shows polls that state the vast majority of the Japanese publc is infavor of re-writing the law to make sure that Aiko can accede to the throne.

So I think its not quite so much a question of if she should be allowed to, as to if you think the law will get re-written on basis of public opinion?
 
Japan has to assert itself on several things: its statehood, its military, and its succession laws.
 
Hiroshi66 said:
Now, if Princess Aiko does not become empress, then the throne will pass to a cousin. It will thus break the main parent-to-child bloodline that has continued for the last few centuries.
Only a couple of centuries, just seven generations.

There were quite a few cases in the past emperors did not have a son. In those cases, the tradition was the cousin (brother's son,) perhaps the father's brother's son or so forth would become the next emperor. A recent example is the 118th Gomomozono who only had a daughter: 119th Kokaku was the 114th Nakamikado's brother's son's son.
It has never mattered which is "the main bloodline."
In other words, what is important about an emperor/empress is, tracking down the father's father's father's... eventually leads to 1st Jimmu, not the mother's father's mother's...

So the real issue is the emperor after Aiko, although it is perfectly fine that she becomes the empress (after all it has been done ten times before.) The problem is that the current imperial family is kept minimum in size (124th Showa's three younger brothers and descendants) for these sixty years, and the ones who are qualified to become the emperor have no son.

The proper solution is to bring back the people who left the imperial family in 1947 ("return" happened in 59th Uda, and there are now five families that keep the male line.) The Crown prince or his brother could adopt male ones who inherit the blood without huge extra tax money allocation, too (as happened to 47th Junnin.) Or it is also possible that Aiko gets married to one of them. Or they could be married to the crown prince's brother's daughters and 124th Showa's younger brother's sons' daughters.

Instead, the cabinet committee recommended that Aiko can get married to anyone, and then update the imperial household law to allow her future child to become the emperor/empress. Media has been just reporting if Aiko will be allowed to become an empress and ignores the more important change that has never been done in the 2600-year history. It is also very sneaky that the committee members slip into this kind of serious change after not-so-open "debates" that lasted for only less than a year.
 
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Yes, I think a female should be allowed to ascend the Imperial throne of Japan.

As has been noted, by others (Index, Silverbackman, Hiroshi66, 名無し), there is precedent for the ascension of an Empress to the Imperial throne. I would offer a couple more thoughts about such precedent . . .

If we extend the argument even further back to mythic lore, one might also consider the relevance of the creation myths which features the goddess Amaterasu Ōmikami as the progenitor of the Yamato line which in turn leads to the Japanese people and the Imperial line. I am not confusing myth with historical precedent here, but only note these stories because I believe in a culture's mythos important values can be discerned. In this case, I believe that legends and myths surrounding Amaterasu demonstrate that there is long-standing potential within the Japanese culture for acceptance of female ascendancy into power.

Also, consider that prior to the 12th century, women were still able to be effective landholders in Japan, only being greatly reduced in cultural status, privilege, and position with the rise of the bushi and the Kamakura shogunate which shifted the reins of land-ownership to the military bureaucracy (though a general decline in the status of women in Japan had been in effect for a couple of centuries by this point). Again, this is just to say that there are times in Japanese culture/history when women were afforded certain measures of power.

Beyond a cultural support (at least in the broad context) for the ascension of a women to the Imperial throne, one might consider the nature of the throne itself and whether or not it is suited to an Empress.
First, since 1945 the Imperial throne has been greatly reduced in its political clout. I would argue that due to international agreement and constitutional restraint, the Emperor of Japan is no longer a political head-of-state, but rather a 'cultural' head-of-state.
As noted in a National Geographic article, ""One of the major roles of the imperial family is to preserve traditions like [cormorant fishing]," said Ryuji Takahashi, manager of the Special Ceremonies Department of the Imperial Household Agency, the government unit that runs the palace and pays a small group of fishermen like Mr. Sugiyama. "It's not very economical, but it is an important part of our cultural history," he said." (National Geographic, Januray 2001, p.100)
So, I interpret the role of the Imperial throne to be that of symbolism; that is, the Emperor/Empress represent the traditions, the pageantry, the grace, the nobility, the heritage, and the grandeur of what is finest in Japanese culture both past and present. This is a function that I don't see as necessarily being sex specific. In fact, by allowing a Empress to ascend the throne, I think Japan would be making a fine statement about the continued progress of its culture.

As to whether or not there should be such things as emperors and empresses in the first place . . . well, I believe that hierarchies are an inherent trait of human nature; some people will be high and some shall be low in the scheme of things. I can't even really think of it as a right or wrong issue, but merely as something that just is. That being the case, I figure perhaps the best way to approach the concept of sovereign individuals/institutions is to try and ensure than you have the best sovereigns/institutions as possible. Considering the nature of the Japanese Emperor, say, about 65 years ago compared with now . . . I think the Imperial household is doing a mighty fine job these days.

Finally, considering that some revisions to existing law would need to be made to allow for a modern day empress . . . hey, where there's a will there's a way, ne?
 
Well why not?? In ancient times these isles had a matriarchal cult and worshipped the moon, so why not go back to origins because if not these inbreds (from Korea) will die out.
 
Prime Minister Koizumi may lose its position because of "Imperial House Act" revision.

1/3 of a member of the Diet of the Liberal Democratic Party object by "Imperial House Act" revision.
 
hmm...I don't know much about the ways of the throne, However, yes, i do believe women/a women should eb allowed to ascend to the Throne. There has always been a first female for everything: For example Margret Thacher (spelt wrong sorry), who was the Prime Minister of Britain at one point.

This may be a cultural thing in Japan though, a tradition. Then again, rules are made out to be broken.
 
It is misunderstanding.
As for the Liberal Democrat, "Aiko" does not oppose becoming the Emperor.
When a child of "Aiko" became the next Emperor,
The blood of the Emperor house for 2600 years in Japan is lost.
皇統の未来を守るオフ
A problem of "正統性(a right system and blood relationship)"

宇佐八幡宮神託事件(USA HACHIMANGU SHINTAKU CASE)
(769 years , The incident which was going to usurp the Emperor's status)

Jingokeiun 3 (769) of the Nara era.
The Emperor Shotoku received a divine message that "a road mirror should have taken the Throne" from Usa Hachiman shrine.
It is a case assumed that a Yuge road mirror was going to get Emperor rank.
 
NEWS

秋篠宮紀子親王妃
Princess Kiko pregnant
Prince Akishino, left, and Princess Kiko talk at a news conference on Nov. 22 last year prior to his 40th birthday. (Pool photo)Princess Kiko, wife of Prince Akishino, is pregnant, a development that may influence debate on a bill that would allow female members of the Imperial Family to ascend to the throne, it was learned Tuesday.
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060207p2a00m0na025000c.html
 
hmmmmmm...
the UK monarchy had no real power anymore but does give a good reflection of societies ideals...
therefore if the japanese monarchy is similar then public opinion will influence it greatly...
 
The Yamato bloodline? How far back do you think the current bloodline goes?

Currently, the second Prince's wife is pregnant with their 3rd child. Maybe that child will be the future Emperor.
 
This is an article by a Canadian liar called Norimitsu Onishi:

To Japanese Nationalists, Only the Y Chromosome Counts It was not the rally "in support of Japan's imperial system" but in support of Japan's imperial system's TRADITION.

They were not "to protest a proposal that would let women become empresses" but to protest a proposal that would let a CHILD of an empress succeed the throne. That is a huge difference.

Koizumi's private committee members' red feminist background is the key to understand the strategy to mislead people.
Political heavyweights like Mr. Hiranuma are now stating the myth as fact.
Stating a myth is not stating it as fact. No one believes that it was 2665 years ago when the system was founded. As Alice King said at the rally, a myth is unnecessary to found a nation while it is nice to have one.
It does not make one a right-wing nationalist not to keep passionately denying the myth.
In addition, the foreign minister, Taro Aso, has said that because Japanese soldiers died for the emperor, the emperor should visit the Yasukuni Shrine, the memorial to Japan's war dead and 14 Class A war criminals.
Another lie that had been pointed out in this post.
What these comments have in common is the belief that the imperial system stands at the core of Japan, defines Japan 窶 is, in fact, Japan.
That is why a certain one-party dictatorship nation want to destroy the system. First making a child of an empress to be the succeeding emperor, then start questioning authenticity by pointing out the violation of the tradition. The goal is another Tibet called Democratic People's Republic of Japan.

Interestingly Onishi's office is located in the headquarter building of a Japanese newspaper publisher which was the only one praising Cultural Revolution back in 1960s.
 
Forget the long drivelling debate, its a simple issue.
If they dont allow female to sit on the throne, the imperial line dies.
Its allow it or die.
Understanding that, and on the understanding the japanese people want their imperial family means they will eventually choose the only course of action avaliable to them.
But isnt one of the royal family women pregnant again?......it could be a boy, in which case this issue could be held off for another generation at least.
Honestly, as much as i support the imperial institution, if they are going to be feul to a dangerous aspect of japanese politics, maybe losing them and becomming a republic will once and for all slay the spectre of a totaly out of its mind Japan with the insane belief the japanese are special and stuff.
Its that attitude which caused the pacific war durring WW2...
Princess Masako became the bête noire of the right wing and, especially in the last six months, the target of ceaseless attacks in the popular press.
I find this hard to believe, the Japanese media dont make a habit of putting a negetive light on the imperial family.

I dunno, it doesnt seem like an overly unfair country, women just prefer to be women there. Though the last line is true, i know if it could be avoided i wouldnt want to bring up a kid in any one of the japanese big cities, that and for others, there life is too busy and hectic and the home too small to want kids.
 
nurizeko said:
If they dont allow female to sit on the throne, the imperial line dies.
This misleading statement should have been "if they don't allow children of empresses to sit on the throne, the imperial line dies" which is false. The other methods had been already posted here. It is interesting that the cabinet committee has been trying to ban those methods. Not allowing contingency plans suggests that their true objective is to make the imperial family go extinct, which is certainly easier than executions after a revolution.

This is an article by another liar, a committee member:

Heirs for the Japanese Throne

Her false accusation goes, What the prince wrote in a periodical was,
国内外共に今の世相からは少々難しいかと思います
"'Difficult' (read: impossible) due to how modern society goes" (on concubines) is not called "suggestion."

Again, the issue is not the empress but the female line. There have been quite a few incorrect statements on the topic, and there are people who feel happy to see the end of the imperial system.
 
This is another thread which has been staring me in the face the last couple of days, and which I had no intention of opening and answering, but here I am.

Of course it should be rosie, pink OK for a girl to ascend to the throne. No big deal...this should be the 21st century right? Laws, by-laws, traditions and or not, it should be ok. AND...if it isn't, by those in control, then the whole shabang needs to be thrown out with the concept that Article 9 is not simply art.
 
This is a much better Reuters article reporting the rally without distortion of hatred. The article also mentions that ones who were able to come there in the weekday afternoon were mostly retired senior people.
 
Gender equality?

According to the Japanese Constitution there should be equality between males and females - so why not also a female on the throne?
What would be far more important would be if more women were democratically elected. If women had more power in Japan the society would become better for all.
 
Prince Mikasa has never "voiced doubts about allowing a woman to succeed to the throne" in the essay in ざ・とど vol.88 published on Sep. 30th 2005. Another big lie.

It shows, by carefully going through all paragraphs discussing the topic.
 
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When it comes down to it, this is a relatively simple issue that politics can complicate very easily:
a) Does Japan lose it's Royal status symbol due to not wanting a female as that symbol of power?
OR
b) Does Japan keep its Royal symbol of power by changing a law to suit the modern age where women are seen as being equal with men (though that is still changing in Japan)?

I'm in favour of instating a female.
 
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名無し said:
Heirs for the Japanese Throne/QUOTE]There is a sentence in the article
However, both the emperor and the crown prince have let it be known that they will not express themselves on this subject because of their status.Crown prince recently made an interesting comment:

Press Conference by His Imperial Highness The Crown Prince on the Occasion of His Birthday People who read between the lines might notice that his highness hinted that he is against the Advisory Council (Koizumi's committee) with the choice of the words "respecting the traditions."
 
As I already said in a similar thread, they really need to change the law to show that they really are a modern, progressive land and thus supporting equal opportunity
 
NHK
 
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Good news!
I am just happy that mother and baby are OK.
 
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