Need a word or phrase translated?

[Glenn]

Think of it like 感じがする comes after ような. Anyway, yes, the "seems" comes from ような.

 

[letianchen]

Heres the title of a chapter in a manga

運命変えさせて貰う件について。

させてもらう here is a request like "been allowed"

The case of me being allowed to change my fate o.o?

 

[Toritoribe]

do you mean the seem is from the
って前もこのやりとりどっかでやったよーな。どこだっけ part?
So that is ような? So an exchange "like this" if we we're to translate literally?

As Glenn-san suggested, 気がする or something along the line is omitted after よーな. I don't think ような気がする and "like this" are the same.

Here's the title of a chapter in a manga

運命変えさせて貰う件について。

させてもらう here is a request like "been allowed"

The case of me being allowed to change my fate o.o?

させてもらう can be used as "feigned politeness" depending on the context.

 

[Yzlot]

Umm, I'll admit I'm not too familiar with usage of body parts to describe attributes. What's the difference between the two?

肝が据わっている
vs.
腹が据わっている


Edit: I get it now. It depends on the conditions in which the event occurs.

 

[letianchen]

Glenn can 父さんと母さんは黙ってたけど、よくのこのこ来れるもんだって言ってたよみんな also mean
"Mom and Dad didn't say anything, but everyone has come to the same conclusion" as well? The official translation(Well i guess its not really official if some random guy translated it ) came out today and thats what it said for that line. Or is this context based. I guess both make sense.

 

[Glenn]

Yeah, you can take liberties with the translation, but it's clearly "everyone was saying you've got some nerve coming (here)." "Mom and dad didn't say anything is good" though, I think.

 

[letianchen]

夏が終わっても暑い

what is も doing here? Is it "Summer is ending, but its still hot"?

遅刻とは。。。いやーいかんいかん

I don't get the phrase

私があーゆー状態にしちゃったんです！
I know あーゆー = ああいう
but what is する does here? I looked up 状態にする and it said
"to make into" " I was made into something like that!" ? Sounds weird if you ask me.

 

[Yzlot]

夏が終わっても暑い

what is も doing here? Is it "Summer is ending, but its still hot"?

遅刻とは。。。いやーいかんいかん

I don't get the phrase

私があーゆー状態にしちゃったんです！
I know あーゆー = ああいう
but what is する does here? I looked up 状態にする and it said
"to make into" " I was made into something like that!" ? Sounds weird if you ask me.

1. 夏が終わっても暑い. Seem familiar?

2. I'm not too sure about the second one. I think いかんいかん = いかないかない. So the sentence might mean...."I could be late.....no, i mustn't" Speaking of which, why is いかない sometimes used to mean いけない? Never was too sure on this point.

3. Are you sure he's talking about himself? I think he's talking about something else. "I turned it into something like 'that'."

 

[letianchen]

1. Oh ok "Even if summer ends its hot" Cant believe i missed that tehe
3. I'm not exactly sure but you could certainly be right

btw for number 2 the beginning does it mean "I'm late....いかんいかん" I usually see とは when explaining something
Like "デジカメ"とはデジタルカメルのことです" Dejikame means digital camera

 

[Yzlot]

Yea, that's usually what I see it as too. I think he's trying to say something along the lines of "Being late isn't such a bad idea......no, I mustn't think this way."

遅刻とはあまり大した事ない。。。いやーいかんいかん, or something along those lines.

 

[Yzlot]

I found this as an interesting use of たら.

(彼は)夜盗まがいのことをするまでに身をおとしめたらしかった

Does the literal translation mean "He went so far as to do the things a night burglar might do, knowing he would hate himself after, but still did it" ? Can someone confirm if the italicized parts are what たらしかった is emphasizing in this sentence? Thanks!

 

[Glenn]

You've got a parsing issue there. It's not おとしめたら+しかった, it's おとしめた+らしかった.

Are you sure about 夜盗まがい? 夜盗 I get, but まがい I don't.

 

[Glenn]

遅刻とは。。。いやーいかんいかん

とは is used to mark something as surprising, unexpected, or unbelievable as well, although I've got to say, I'm not sure how to interpret it in this situation. いかんいかん is indeed like いけない.

 

[Yzlot]

Oh. I never even considered reading it like that. Whoops, that was embarassing.
I thought 夜盗まがい in this case referred to 夜盗紛い, and not 夜盗魔街?

So I would read it like this? 夜盗魔街のことをする

Then would "He (seemingly) held himself in self-hatred for going as far as performing the same activities as a pack of theives" be right?
Or would "joining in the activities of a pack of theives" be more appropriate?

Thanks Glenn!

 

[Glenn]

Ah, I think you're right about 紛い. That makes sense. Here's how I'm interpreting it:

(彼は)夜盗まがいのことをするまでに身をおとしめたらしかった
"He even got down so far as to become indistinguishable from a cat burglar."

I kind of took some liberties, but I think that's fairly close. If I'm understanding it right, that is.

 

[letianchen]

heres a sentence from a textbook I dont really get

私たちが見ているようで見ていない"仕事"に活気が与えられて、新鮮である。

why is ようで here anyways, and what does this mean.


thanks

 

[Yzlot]

Ah, I think you're right about 紛い. That makes sense. Here's how I'm interpreting it:

(彼は)夜盗まがいのことをするまでに身をおとしめたらしかった
"He even got down so far as to become indistinguishable from a cat burglar."

I kind of took some liberties, but I think that's fairly close. If I'm understanding it right, that is.

I think that's more or less correct. 'Indistinguishable' might be a bit too strong of a word, but I like the liberties you took since the literal translation did seem a bit weird. And you subtly expressed 身をおとしめた. I like your style

私たちが見ているようで見ていない"仕事"に活気が与えられて、新鮮である。

で is used as an instrument marker here, if I'm not mistaken. The instrument being, 見ているよう in this case.

私たちが A のようで B をする is the basically sentence structure I'm reading it as.

So, "We did 'B' in an 'A'-like fashion"

 

[letianchen]

thnx for response

But they are the same verb, so how does that make sense?

We didn't see in a see-like fashion. I'm not to sure about that :S

 

[Yzlot]

"We brought liveliness(now visible) to a not-so lively job(not visible)" 新鮮である。

What the sentence emphasizes is the visible change. Does that make it more clear?

 

[Glenn]

私たちが見ているようで見ていない"仕事"に活気が与えられて、新鮮である。

I think it's just saying you thought you were seeing it but weren't really. Other examples of this pattern are 知っているようで知らない, 知らないようでやっぱり知らない (thanks, Google!), and 読めそうで読めない漢字. OK, so that last one's a little different.

 

[letianchen]

Ok so 知っているようで知らない means I think I know it but I actually don't know it ?

What about the yomesou de yomenai ?
It seems I can read it but I can't read it?

 

[Glenn]

Yeah, that's pretty much it. It may be more like "seems like I know but I actually don't", though.

 

[letianchen]

Heres another one

山田さんから聞いたところによると、彼の会社は経営があまりよくないらしい。ボ-ナスもいつもの半分しか出なかったそうだ.

出る here means "to get" half pay? or receive half pay? しか means "only" right? I am not too familiar with this as my textbook glossed over this with one sentence.

Contrary to whats been heard from Yamada, his companies management doesen't seem very good.

Not sure how to translate the last one. Is it " They only don't get half pay" but then thats kind of contradicting the sentence before, no?

 

[Yzlot]

ボ-ナス

いつもの半分しか In this case, 半分 doesn't mean 'half' but refers to 'half-time' per English translation.

I'm sure you can figure out the rest

 

[letianchen]

I still dont :/. He doesen't get bonuses and only gets half-time?