Need a word or phrase translated?

[Toritoribe]

era of roaring waves/great turmoil

 

[Glenn]

At least 狂瀾怒濤の時代 returns Google results.

 

[Noodle06]

Hi people,
How would you say "he offered me a job"? (implying that I refused his offer) :S

お願いします。

 

[Toritoribe]

What's the context? He asked you a hard job? What is the relation between you and the reader(s)? Which do you want to use, polite form or casual form? First of all, what is your translation?

 

[Noodle06]

What's the context? He asked you a hard job? What is the relation between you and the reader(s)? Which do you want to use, polite form or casual form? First of all, what is your translation?

A company manager offers me a job and I dont accept the offer, so I want to say... "He offered me a job"
the relationship is casual.
thanks

 

[Jaynomics]

Hows it going!

I was wondering how would you write this phrase properly in Japanese:

"Set goals and persevere"

Thank you!

 

[Elizabeth]

A company manager offers me a job and I don't accept the offer, so I want to say... "He offered me a job"
the relationship is casual.
Thanks

I suppose a phrasing close to this. 内定を(丁重に)辞退した. You may want to switch around 内定 with 採用 something something....

 

[Toritoribe]

Hi people,
How would you say "he offered me a job"? (implying that I refused his offer) :S

お願いします。

It would be impossible to imply "I refused his offer" by just saying "he offered me a job". Do you think it's possible to say it in English?

Hows it going!

I was wondering how would you write this phrase properly in Japanese:

"Set goals and persevere"

Thank you!

目標を定めてやり抜く

 

[Mike Cash]

It would be impossible to imply "I refused his offer" by just saying "he offered me a job". Do you think it's possible to say it in English?

It would be possible to say it, but I can't think of a way to write it. It would all be in the tone of saying it.

 

[Noodle06]

It would be impossible to imply "I refused his offer" by just saying "he offered me a job". Do you think it's possible to say it in English?

目標を定めてやり抜く

Well the fact that i'm saying "he offered me a job" rather than "he gave me a job" implies that I didnt take the job.

Thanks anyway

 

[bigmit37]

覚えとけ!

What is the とけ conjugation mean?

 

[Toritoribe]

the contraction of ておけ.

 

[Glenn]

It's an abbreviation of 覚えておけ.

[Edit] Nuts. Also, I think "contraction" is better than "abbreviation". Just go with Toritoribe's answer.

Well the fact that i'm saying "he offered me a job" rather than "he gave me a job" implies that I didn't take the job.

Thanks anyway

I don't think that's 100% true, although it's a logical way of thinking about it. Still, I'm sure if you said "he offered me a job" you'll find at least a few people who'd follow up with "did you accept?"

 

[Mike Cash]

Well the fact that i'm saying "he offered me a job" rather than "he gave me a job" implies that I didnt take the job.

Thanks anyway

Absent any context and without any other clues that can be picked up from this like emphasis or intonation it is impossible to infer that with certainty. It could be the case that an offer was made and no reply had been given yet.

 

[Glenn]

Yeah, I guess it's a fair point that "didn't take it" can be opposed to "haven't taken it yet", where "didn't take it" shows a decision not to take it has already been reached, and "haven't taken it yet" shows that the speaker is undecided.

 

[Mike Cash]

Right. And the reader has no way of knowing which is the case. Even English suffers from "well, it depends on the context" sometimes.

 

[Toritoribe]

Hmm, 働かないかといわれてたんだけど can be the one, but this sentence can also mean "he broke his promise". I can't think of any perfectly fitting answer. Anyway, there's no "correct" answer, as already discussed.

 

[Mike Cash]

When one starts with something that is ambiguous in the original language it is hardly reasonable to expect specificity in the target language.

 

[Glenn]

Hmm, 働かないかといわれてたんだけど can be the one, but this sentence can also mean "he broke his promise". I can't think of any perfectly fitting answer. Anyway, there's no "correct" answer, as already discussed.

招聘を与えられた I suppose is strange, then? Perhaps 招聘 is too broad of a word. And perhaps my grammar is suspect. heh

[Edit] 招聘を与えてくれた（くださった） I'm sure would be better than what I have above, but I'm still not sure it's acceptable.

 

[Toritoribe]

Sounds like "to be offered from an official agency", at least not casual. 内定をくれた/貰った would be more common, as Elizabeth-san wrote.

 

[Glenn]

Ah, yes. Good ol' 内定. Man, I had totally forgotten about that word.

 

[Elizabeth]

Well the fact that i'm saying "he offered me a job" rather than "he gave me a job" implies that I didnt take the job.

Thanks anyway

I think "offer" is reasonable if it is either clear you either didn't take the job or hadn't had time to give a proper response. But it obviously can't be transplanted exactly. Context is crucial as 内定をくれた can express both English alternatives and would likely sound too abrupt to occur in Japanese in isolation.

 

[LouisvG]

Aren't there in fact lots of ways in Japanese to say that something didn't come into being/didn't work out/etc. without actually saying it? Im thinking of phrases like "something something shita no ni.......", "something-something shita kedo....". Maybe with "sekkaku"? I can imagine people saying something like "あぁ。実は。はい。せっかく○○してくれたのに、結句は。うん。はい。"

 

[Toritoribe]

As I wrote previously, せっかく内定くれてたのに（結局･･･） can also mean "he broke his promise/he withdrew his offer". We can't judge which one of them(the company manager and the speaker) refused it just from this sentence.

 

[Alish]

How do we ask "Is there any body else?" in Japanese? (in hiragana please)