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[Toritoribe]

痛みを越えた数だけ優しさがわかる

I've spent a great deal of time trying to figure out on my own the entire meaning of this sentence. Yet once again I'm not able to fully understand how it all fits together.

痛みを越えた [Overcome pain] 数だけ [only the number of times] 優しさがわかる [I understand/know the kindness/tenderness]

What I believe to be the problem here for me is how "Dake" ties the sentence together. I may be misunderstanding a word which could be throwing me off. If I could have anyone's help shedding some light on this I would very much be in debt to you. Thank you so much. :

It's the same usage as the one in here.


痛みを越えた数だけ
as the same amount/numbers/times as we overcome pain,

 

[Elizabeth]

I think 付き合う would mean "to get along with ~" here.

[と付き合おう] と [に付き合おう] は, 違いは感じられませんでしょうか ☝

 

[Toritoribe]

In the structure 付き合えるだけロバートさんに/と付き合おう, both ～に付き合う and ～と付き合う wouldn't mean "to date". As for the case ロバートさんに/と付き合おう (i.e. without 付き合えるだけ), yes, there's a difference. Only ～と付き合おう can be used for "to date".

 

[Elizabeth]

In the structure 付き合えるだけロバートさんに/と付き合おう, both ～に付き合う and ～と付き合う wouldn't mean "to date". As for the case ロバートさんに/と付き合おう (i.e. without 付き合えるだけ), yes, there's a difference. Only ～と付き合おう can be used for "to date".

Oh, yes. I was speaking only as they were used in the example. この文で
[と付き合おう] と [に付き合おう] は, 違いは感じられませんでしょうか

 

[Fuumei]

It's the same usage as the one in here.
痛みを越えた数だけ
as the same amount/numbers/times as we overcome pain

説明してくれてほんとにありがとうございます。

If I can take up even more of your time here, which I am reluctant to do, can I ask you if my English translation properly suits the Japanese meaning?

I have it as: "I understand kindness as many times as I overcome pain"

Naturally, to me, that doesn't make a lot of sense at all and makes me wonder what I've not understood. Once again, thank you so much.

 

[Elizabeth]

説明してくれてほんとにありがとうございます。
If I can take up even more of your time here, which I am reluctant to do, can I ask you if my english translation properly suits the japanese meaning?
I have it as: "I understand kindness as many times as I overcome pain"
Naturally, to me, that doesn't make a lot of sense at all and makes me wonder what I've not understood. Once again, thank you so much.

痛みを越えた数だけ優しさがわかる

数だけ is expression often used to draw a parallelism, a comparison and to show that two things or two concepts are equivalent. It can't be narrowly calibrated down to a limited and precise number. Similar to the usage of だけ in 出来るだけ, which in the absence of context literally ends up translating "as much as possible/as far as possible."

As much as ~ there is also an equivalent degree of another.

 

[Toritoribe]

Oh, yes. I was speaking only as they were used in the example. この文で
[と付き合おう] と [に付き合おう] は, 違いは感じられませんでしょうか

と matual vs. に unilateral

But I think the difference is subtle here.

 

[TurkeySloth]

Thanks for all the help thus far. Here's a little Romaji to English translation for you: "sunda aozora no mukou ni". I know it has something to with "escaping the blue sky" through various single-word translations. What's the full translation?

 

[Toritoribe]

beyond the clear blue sky

There's no implication of "escaping" in the phrase.

 

[Fuumei]

痛みを越えた数だけ優しさがわかる

数だけ is expression often used to draw a parallelism, a comparison and to show that two things or two concepts are equivalent. It can't be narrowly calibrated down to a limited and precise number. Similar to the usage of だけ in 出来るだけ, which in the absence of context literally ends up translating "as much as possible/as far as possible."

As much as ~ there is also an equivalent degree of another.

返事が遅くなってすみません。
お時間を取っていただきまして有難うございました。
あなたの答えでこの意味を正しく掴んだと思います。

 

[sl89]

Having some trouble making this into a sentence that flows well, I'm not sure if I have it right.

楽しみなら楽しみって言えばいいのに

"If it's fun, you can say it's fun" ?

 

[Toritoribe]

It's more likely "If you're looking forward to it, you should say you're looking forward to it". (Note the difference between 楽しみだ and 楽しい.)

楽しみだ（＝楽しみにして待つ）: to be looking forward to ~

～ばいい; advise/wish
～てもいい; permission/tolerance

 

[sl89]

It's more likely "If you're looking forward to it, you should say you're looking forward to it". (Note the difference between 楽しみだ and 楽しい.)
楽しみだ（＝楽しみにして待つ）: to be looking forward to ~
～ばいい; advise/wish
～てもいい; permission/tolerance

That makes sense, thank you.

 

[sl89]

I'm not entirely sure what おこり means in this sense.

雨降ってきてるし何かおこりそうな

Does it just mean that it looks like the rain fall is going to be heavy or something?

 

[Glenn]

I interpreted it as "looks like something's about to go down." Not sure if that fits the context at all, although it's the only interpretation that makes sense to me at the moment.

Oh, and it's already raining.

 

[Toritoribe]

It starts to rain and looks like something is going to happen.

降ってきてる is almost same to 降り始めた.
おこりそう＝the pre-masu form of 起こる + そう

 

[sl89]

I interpreted it as "looks like something's about to go down." Not sure if that fits the context at all, although it's the only interpretation that makes sense to me at the moment.

Oh, and it's already raining.

It starts to rain and looks like something is going to happen.
降ってきてる is almost same to 降り始めた.
おこりそう＝the pre-masu form of 起こる + そう

I see, thank you both.

 

[SteadyEd]

Hi, new here

I'm looking into getting a Japanese themed tattoo and would like the saying "Even monkeys fall from trees" within the tattoo, i have found this translation on the Internet: 猿も木から落ちる。
so I'm just wondering if that is the correct translation before i go ahead and have it done :?

Many thanks in advance

Ed

 

[Glenn]

Yup, that's it.

 

[pedroami]

I'm trying to translate this and am having trouble. Was wondering if anyone was willing to help~

Naze kisama wa sono you ni waratte irareru?

Ara... senpai. Senpai kate ojousama no koto igai honma wa doudemo ee kuse ni

 

[Glenn]

"How the #$@! can you laugh (smile) like that?"
"Oh? Psh, even though the only one who matters to you is miss Kate."

Something like that, anyway.

 

[pedroami]

Here, I'll post it from it's raw source. I'm pretty sure that "kate" かて is used in some sort of particular way here... but I have no idea. (Because the Ojousama's name is not Kate) If anything, I want to know what this かて is there for, and for what purpose--

ＳＥＴＳＵＮＡ： なぜ貴様は
ＳＥＴＳＵＮＡ： そのように笑って
ＳＥＴＳＵＮＡ： いられる？

ＴＳＵＫＵＹＯＭＩ： あら。。センパイ
ＴＳＵＫＵＹＯＭＩ： センパイかて
ＴＳＵＫＵＹＯＭＩ： お嬢様のこと以外
ＴＳＵＫＵＹＯＭＩ： ホンマはどうでも
ＴＳＵＫＵＹＯＭＩ： ええくせに

 

[Glenn]

OK, then it's probably more like "oh? But even you're only interested in spoiled girls, senpai."

 

[Toritoribe]

If anything, I want to know what this かて is there for, and for what purpose--

かて is a Kansai dialect for だって, meaning "too/also".

お嬢様 might refer to a specific person or "the lady/her".

 

[Zdaniel]

Could someone tell me what this says? Please see above picture.