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[SacredBlue]

Ahh I see..For some reason I put an extra 'to' at the end there..If this isn't correct now what's the reason? And I don't see why と can't be used to connect these sentences. Should や be used instead?

私の趣味は音楽を聞くことと、映画を見ることなど。
I mean this sentence in the sense of "My hobbies are things like listening to music, watching movies, etc".

watashi no shumi wa ongaku wo kiitara, eiga wo mitari (nado) suru koto desu.

私の趣味は音楽を聞いたら、映画を見たりすることです。
Is this the correct kana?
If so I don't understand why kiitara is used here..Isn't kiitara conditional? 教えてください。

 

[SacredBlue]

私は「 K'」です。 俺は１５歳です。リンは何歳ですか

Looks good to me

 

[Elizabeth]

Originally posted by SacredBlue
]Ahh I see..For some reason I put an extra 'to' at the end there..If this isn't correct now what's the reason? And I don't see why と can't be used to connect these sentences. Should や be used instead?

私の趣味は音楽を聞くことと、映画を見ることなど。
I mean this sentence in the sense of "My hobbies are things like listening to music, watching movies, etc".


私の趣味は音楽を聞いたら、映画を見たりすることです。
Is this the correct kana?
If so I don't understand why kiitara is used here..Isn't kiitara conditional? 教えてください。

Gomenne. Kittara to iu kotoba dewanaku "kiitari" to iitakata desu.

I've never seen it done that way, but come to think of it -- maybe it is alright if you have an exhaustive listing. And you will need "ya" "nado" or "toka" with an incomplete ennumeration.

You are of course free to use "to ka" as well with verbs and verb phrases, such as "Oyasumi nani shite'ta no?" "Kaimono wo suru toka eiga wo mi ni iku toka..." (What did you do over vacation? Went shopping, to the movies, things like that....") which might be another way of constructing a set statement of hobbies or interests. I'm not sure...my initial teaching was the "tari" way, so that's what I still use, literally these are the things I'm doing as hobbies. :note:

 

[M10]

Anyone know the song Shinjitsu no Uta (Do As Infinity) ?
well.. I thought in kanji would be like "真実の歌"
but it is 真実の詩
詩 can be "uta" too ?
Thanks!

 

[Elizabeth]

I believe this older reading of uta is used primarily in the context of a traditional type of Japanese poetry, or maybe some type of chant/folk song as well.

 

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Elizabeth
And I think the easiest way to list your own hobbies would be something like watashi no shumi wa ongaku wo kiitara, eiga wo mitari (nado) suru koto desu. Anata no shumi wa nan deshouka?

I'm pretty sure that "nado" would be left out, because "V-tari" has a sense of "V etc." (i.e. "V-tari" is like "nado" for verbs). So saying something like "kinou eiga o mitari shita" would mean "yesterday I watched movies and the like."

There may be other ways, but for sure you cannot simply use "to" in connecting clauses like this.

I'm just wondering why not. I am pretty sure that that sort of phrasing would be highly unnatural, but it seems logical at least...

--Sorry, I posted this before I read this page. I hope there is still some worthwile information in there, though...--

 

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Kiyotsuki
I see. So I should avoid attempting to use "and you?" altogether.
I've noticed in Japanese we say the name of the person we're speaking to often. That's tricky for me, someone who uses english everyday and says "you" all the time.

I hope you don't mind if I practice a little. Please tell me if I say something incorrectly, or should say it in a different way.
ﾅｽ窶樞?堙債「 K'ﾂ」窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。 窶ｰ'窶堙坂?啀窶啜ﾂ催寂?堙??堋ｷﾂ。ﾆ椎?ﾆ停?懌?堙坂?ｰﾂｽﾂ催寂?堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？

I would drop the "ore" in the second sentence for two reasons. First, it is a rough word usually used by males in informal situations (although it seems that it is used with the formal mode at times ), and secondly, you already referred to yourself in the first sentence, establishing yourself as the topic. This will continue to be the case until you change the topic, which has not happened here. It is obvious from context that you are still talking about yourself. And finally, a comment: you could make the first two sentences into one like this: "Watashi wa "K'" de, 15 sai desu." "De" is the continuative (-te form) of the copula "da/desu," so the meaning of "X de..." would be along the lines of "it is X, and..."

 

[Glenn]

Originally posted by M10
Anyone know the song Shinjitsu no Uta (Do As Infinity) ?
well.. I thought in kanji would be like "真実の歌"
but it is 真実の詩
詩 can be "uta" too ?
thanks!

I am not sure whether that kanji had the reading "uta" ever, but one thing that I have noticed about songs and such: artists like to take liberties with kanji and their readings. For example, I have seen subtitles for songs say things like, "惑星(ほし)." This message might also be of interest to you, as it comments on the matter somewhat.

 

[Elizabeth]

Originally posted by Glenn
I'm pretty sure that "nado" would be left out, because "V-tari" has a sense of "V etc." (i.e. "V-tari" is like "nado" for verbs). So saying something like "kinou eiga o mitari shita" would mean "yesterday I watched movies and the like."

Yes, nado/toka isn't necessary at the end. Sorry if that was taken otherwise. I simply put it in parentheses to mean that was what was being implied.

Likewise the "koto to" construction I had just never seen before (and still haven't), but as I said the second time it doesn't violate any grammatical rules that I know of. And I suppose if you wanted to say "Watching movies and listening to music are hobbies (of mine)" it would be something along the lines "Eiga wo miru koto to ongaku wo kiku koto (ga?) shumi desu.

It may be technically correct as such, but I really do recommend the traditional "tari" form @SacredBlue, however, or you're going to have a terrible time being understood....:emoji_stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Elizabeth
Yes, nado/toka isn't necessary at the end. Sorry if that was taken otherwise. I simply put it in parentheses to mean that was what was being implied.

Ah, sorry I misunderstood.

And I suppose if you wanted to say "Watching movies and listening to music are hobbies (of mine)" it would be something along the lines "Eiga wo miru koto to ongaku wo kiku koto (ga?) shumi desu.

That is a good point. I had never even though of that situation.

 

[Elizabeth]

Originally posted by Glenn
I am not sure whether that kanji had the reading "uta" ever, but one thing that I have noticed about songs and such: artists like to take liberties with kanji and their readings. For example, I have seen subtitles for songs say things like, "ﾋ彷ﾂ青ｯ(窶堙吮?堋ｵ)." This message might also be of interest to you, as it comments on the matter somewhat.:emoji_wink:

I don't have a history of the various pronunciations, either, but it is a traditional Japanese form of poetry (similar to waka?) and the uta kanji does come up in IME as ﾅｽﾂ? so it was my impression there must be a more general basis to it than simply something favored by artists.

 

[Eve]

pls help translate this into romaji

"If we risk losing one memory, we risk losing them all"

 

[Golgo_13]

Originally posted by Eve
pls help translate this into romaji

"If we risk losing one memory, we risk losing them all"

How does this sound to ya:


"Hitotsu no omoide o ushina'eba, subete no omoide o ushinaukamo shirenai."

:

 

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Elizabeth
I don't have a history of the various pronunciations, either, but it is a traditional Japanese form of poetry (similar to waka?) and the uta kanji does come up in IME as 詩, so it was my impression there must be a more general basis to it than simply something favored by artists.

Heh, you're right. I just tried it, and sure enough, there it was. Well, I suppose there is some historical reason then. I think that it is interesting which other kanji come up for that reading as well: 唄 (I already knew this one would), 歌 (the most standard one, I would guess), 唱 (makes sense), 詠 (I would not have guessed this one either), 謡 (I guess this one is along the same lines as 唱), and of course the infamous 詩. In case you haven't guessed, I know way more meanings of kanji than readings.

Anyway, it seems that this is one of those "nuance" cases, similar to the nine "toru's."

採る - to pluck (as fruit from a tree)
撮る - to take (photos)
執る - to take control of, manage
取る - to take and hold on to (not throwing away)
捕る - to take hold of firmly; grasp
盗る - to take (what belongs to another); steal*
穫る - to harvest (a crop from the fields)*
獲る - to catch (fish or game)*
摂る - to take in; absorb; take the place of*

* - Non-standard reading

SOURCE: Remembering the Kanji II by James Heisig

 

[Eve]

Thxs GolGO!!! btw what does wakaranai mean?

 

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Eve
Thxs GolGO!!! btw what does wakaranai mean?

It can mean either "I don't understand" or "I don't know."

 

[Eve]

oh ok

 

[Golgo_13]

Watashi no shumi wa tabete

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nerukoto

:emoji_zzz:

Oyasuminasaaaaaai !!!!!!!!!

 

[Glenn]

Originally posted by Golgo_13
Watashi no shumi wa tabete

:


nerukoto

:snore:


Oyasuminasaaaaaai !!!!!!!!!

Or I guess you could say it like that. Golgo_13さん、教えて下さってありがとうございました！ついでにそれも私の趣味なのですよ。

 

[Elizabeth]

Originally posted by Buntaro
Hey Elizabeth (or anyone else)

How do you say "Check out that cute looking girl." in Japanese?

Following up on this, "There's something cute (about her)" becomes
"かわいいとろろがある'んだ(ざ)"？ :note:

 

[crazycookie]

How would you ask someone "How much Japanese do you know?". I'd like to say it in the way that it's most commonly used by the Japanese

 

[crazycookie]

is it 'ikura nihongo o shitte imasu ka?'

 

[Elizabeth]

Originally posted by Golgo_13
Watashi no shumi wa tabete

:


nerukoto

:snore:


Oyasuminasaaaaaai !!!!!!!!!

疲れたからといって寝てばかりいるわけにもいきません よ。。。。:emoji_stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[Elizabeth]

Originally posted by crazycookie
is it 'ikura nihongo o shitte imasu ka?'

Probably dono/dore gurai~~~, I'm just not sure if the verb is better can you speak or do you speak?

 

[Chipi]

I have a simple question, but it really troubles me
What does "minna-san" or "mina-san" mean?
They haven't thought us that on japanese class, and I can't find it from Japanese-Finnish dictionary..and it troubles me because "Minna" is a name for a girl in Finnish..so I have thought it was just, well Minna-san.Like for example Greg- san.