Need a word or phrase translated?
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Indeed, I was! Sorry if my Japanese was confusing!jt_ said:
とんでもない！気にするな。:emoji_stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:Glenn said:
Maybe koro / goro was a bad example to use, judging from the response. It was just the first thing that popped into my head.
To add wood to the fire :emoji_imp:
It's kind of like, you can say むつかしい instead of むずかしい
or
さびしい instead of さみしい
or
あったかい instead of あたたかい
etc, etc, etc.
Elizabeth
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There are some subtle differences I can't begin to understand between 'gurai' and 'kurai' along with the areas of overlap, but you came up with a great example, Damicci, since I think "Hodo" is actually more appropriate in this case anyway.nhk9 said:
これからも日本語が上達すればするほど、旅行も、ますます楽しめるようになると思いますね。
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Damicci
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Yeah thats why I said nevermind, I just thought that for a second b/c my friends always say nanji kurai dore kurai etc.
WHAAA My gf just said: でも、15分くらいしか話せない。。。。
I was talking about leaving to go buy food in about 15 minutes.
So I give looks like they can be completely interchangeable. 15minutes is not a long time!
WHAAA My gf just said: でも、15分くらいしか話せない。。。。
I was talking about leaving to go buy food in about 15 minutes.
So I give looks like they can be completely interchangeable. 15minutes is not a long time!
Damicci
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Maybe,
Yamasaを卒業したら、私は30歳と思います。
Yamasaを卒業する時は、私は30歳と思います。
I think will be 30 years old when I graduate from Yamasa.
多分、Yamasaを卒業する時までに、私は30歳と思います。
Probably by the time I graduate from Yamasa, I will be 30 years old.
I use と思います because this isn't an factual statement it is an assumption.
Yamasaを卒業したら、私は30歳と思います。
Yamasaを卒業する時は、私は30歳と思います。
I think will be 30 years old when I graduate from Yamasa.
多分、Yamasaを卒業する時までに、私は30歳と思います。
Probably by the time I graduate from Yamasa, I will be 30 years old.
I use と思います because this isn't an factual statement it is an assumption.
MeAndroo
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How about:
Yamasa wo sotsugyou suru toki ni mou 30 sai ni natta ka mo
Though that has more of a "At the time I graduate from Yamasa, I'll probably have already turned 30" feel.
I always liked using kamo shiremasen when I wasn't sure of something rather than -to omou, but this is a personal thing.
Yamasa wo sotsugyou suru toki ni mou 30 sai ni natta ka mo
Though that has more of a "At the time I graduate from Yamasa, I'll probably have already turned 30" feel.
I always liked using kamo shiremasen when I wasn't sure of something rather than -to omou, but this is a personal thing.
Elizabeth
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Used alone, deshou/darou ("probably, expect to, seems like, I guess it will be...")
won't imply a sense of should. Some examples this applies to :
将来は、日本に住んでいるでしょう。(I will be living in Japan in the future).
もしあなたが、招待していたら、 私は日本語の先生になれただろうに (If you had invited me, I would have become a Japanese language teacher).
あなたがくるだろうと思った (I thought you would come).
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I have a question about japanese.
Whenever I try to translate a japanese sentence myself, it always turns out wrong.
For example, in english, we would say : "Your english is good." although 'good' here may not be perfect english but its what is usually said.
On the other hand, in japanese, they use the term 'skilled'.
英語が上手ですね。
[Your] english is skilled, isn't it?
They also like to use 'desu ne' alot which translates to "isn't it?" I guess japanese like alot of confirmation.
That reminds me. My pastor lived in a french only speaking area in quebec for 6 years. He learned to speak french fluently, and talked about Jesus and christianity in french. He is very helpful with me learning japanese, because he knows how different languages are.
He says, in french, there is no "How are you?" saying. He said you'd be literally asking them if they were feeling OK. The same way is in japanese. But you can say like "whats happening?" in french.
He also says there are different sayings in french that aren't in english, and visa versa. In english, we say "It's raining cats and dogs." when it's raining hard. In french, they say "It's raining nails." he said.
When I don't use a translator, and I try to translate something, taking in the usage of the particles, it still, I get it totally wrong.
Its frusterating.
He said anything is possible and it just takes alot of effort and practice.
He said he had to learn 11 months of french in a normal 24 month period.
He also lived in a french only speaking enviorment
もしあなたが、招待していたら、 私は日本語の先生に なれただろうに
I'm curious about this sentence because of the word "if", I have no idea how you say "if" in japanese.
Thank you elizabeth san
And thank you everyone else, for being so nice.
Whenever I try to translate a japanese sentence myself, it always turns out wrong.
For example, in english, we would say : "Your english is good." although 'good' here may not be perfect english but its what is usually said.
On the other hand, in japanese, they use the term 'skilled'.
英語が上手ですね。
[Your] english is skilled, isn't it?
They also like to use 'desu ne' alot which translates to "isn't it?" I guess japanese like alot of confirmation.
That reminds me. My pastor lived in a french only speaking area in quebec for 6 years. He learned to speak french fluently, and talked about Jesus and christianity in french. He is very helpful with me learning japanese, because he knows how different languages are.
He says, in french, there is no "How are you?" saying. He said you'd be literally asking them if they were feeling OK. The same way is in japanese. But you can say like "whats happening?" in french.
He also says there are different sayings in french that aren't in english, and visa versa. In english, we say "It's raining cats and dogs." when it's raining hard. In french, they say "It's raining nails." he said.
When I don't use a translator, and I try to translate something, taking in the usage of the particles, it still, I get it totally wrong.
Its frusterating.
He said anything is possible and it just takes alot of effort and practice.
He said he had to learn 11 months of french in a normal 24 month period.
He also lived in a french only speaking enviorment
もしあなたが、招待していたら、 私は日本語の先生に なれただろうに
I'm curious about this sentence because of the word "if", I have no idea how you say "if" in japanese.
Thank you elizabeth san
And thank you everyone else, for being so nice.
Elizabeth
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- 22 Apr 2003
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Sounds like your pastor would be a fascinating to talk with about this, GCL.
I completely agree with him that deciding to learn a second language is a matter of effort and willpower (no matter where you live) more than anything.
人生はすべて選択の連続なんですね。 Life is all series of choices, don't you think ?
Very interesting. But back to the practicalities of getting there.
There are....hmmmm....well like at least 4 or 5 different ways to say "if" in Japanese -- and two in this sentence sentence that work together （もし emphasizes the "if" part and (してい)~~たら (tara ending makes it into "if" or "when"）. ☝ I don't know if it is a cultural thing or not but because the people are so polite they tend to leave the listener a lot of freedom to refuse or act/speak differently than the speaker might suggest. Hence 'if' is used more and in other kinds of expressions compared with English.
Two examples : 元気？と言えば、自然です。 "If you say 'Genki,' (implying you aren't being forced) it is natural" to mean "Genki is natural" (natural speech).
お買い物なら、ここがいいです。(If it is shopping (you want to do), this area here is good. Still sound strange in English ?
epigene
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I don't think this can be translated correctly because there are many inaccuracies in the terms used.Jayern said:
Partly pasteurized: Is there such a thing as "partly pasteurized" milk? At least, there is no such thing in Japanese.
Palimite: I don't know what this is. I know "Vitamin C palmitate" but not this.
Liquidified curry powder: There is something wrong in logic here. Also, it should be "liquefied"? :?
