Need a word or phrase translated?

[alteregoivy]

I'm actually working on reading through this whole thread so I can hang around on a regular basis and not feel so bad about it... but right now I have a question.
落ちついてられちゃ困りますよ。
Does this basically mean, "Calm down, or it'll mean trouble for me."?
I understand 落ち着く and 困る but what I'm stumbling on is the てられちゃ. Can someone explain it to me?
ありがとうございます！

 

[Toritoribe]

I'm actually working on reading through this whole thread so I can hang around on a regular basis and not feel so bad about it... but right now I have a question.
落ちついてられちゃ困りますよ。
Does this basically mean, "Calm down, or it'll mean trouble for me."?
I understand 落ち着く and 困る but what I'm stumbling on is the てられちゃ. Can someone explain it to me?
ありがとうございます！

落ち着いてられちゃ is the contraction of 落ち着いていられては.

（あなた/誰かに）落ち着いていられては（私が）困りますよ。

Does this make sense?

 

[alteregoivy]

落ち着いてられちゃ is the contraction of 落ち着いていられては.
（あなた/誰かに）落ち着いていられては（私が）困りますよ。
Does this make sense?

Thank you! ^_^ So is this 可能形 (can't remember the English word for this)? Does "I am perplexed that you can be so calm," work best as a translation? Or is this passive form?

 

[Toritoribe]

Thank you! ^_^ So is this 可能形 (can't remember the English word for this)? Does "I am perplexed that you can be so calm," work best as a translation? Or is this passive form?

That would be a passive form of 落ち着いている.

あなたが落ち着いている。
あなたに落ち着いていられる。

（あなたが）落ち着いていては/落ち着いてちゃ困りますよ can have almost same meaning, the passive form would sound more soft, though.

 

[nekojita]

I need some slight help/checking with this:

死の祝祭

I'm aware its means feasts of the dead, but I can't of anything synonymous to it/how else it can be rephrased or what its hitting at in the context of this sentence:

死の祝祭を祈祷する

死の祝祭 would be more like "Festival of Death", which makes some kind of sense in the full context which appears to be (from google):
得意技の『ブラックサバス』は死の祝祭を祈祷する暗黒の呪文

 

[Elizabeth]

死の祝祭 would be more like "Festival of Death", which makes some kind of sense in the full context which appears to be (from google):
得意技の『ブラックサバス』は死の祝祭を祈祷する暗黒の呪文

I've never heard of 祝祭を祈祷 and am fairly sure this will make zero sense to most native speakers. Praying for a festival/feast isn't even a concept that is there in Japanese. 祝祭 translates depending on the cultural context. In this case the occultist technique of ブラックサバス ??

 

[Damicci]

死の祝祭 would be more like "Festival of Death", which makes some kind of sense in the full context which appears to be (from google):
得意技の『ブラックサバス』は死の祝祭を祈祷する暗黒の呪文

I was wondering if there was more to this content than the poster listed. Festival also made more sense to me but not being so great Japanese myself I was reluctant to question the translation.

 

[Elizabeth]

I was wondering if there was more to this content than the poster listed. Festival also made more sense to me but not being so great Japanese myself I was reluctant to question the translation.

We definitely need the back story. Japanese doesn't have anything remotely like a celebration of death
But festivals of the dead from ancient times have often included feasting at ancestral sites, ceremonial meals, etc so I guess there isn't a clear cut line in the translation...

 

[alteregoivy]

死の祝祭 would be more like "Festival of Death", which makes some kind of sense in the full context which appears to be (from google):
得意技の『ブラックサバス』は死の祝祭を祈祷する暗黒の呪文

The full context sort of sounds to me like someone is trying to explain in Japanese what the English phrase "Black Sabbath" means. Especially since the subsequent "explanation" of 『ブラックサバス』 seems to sound awkward even in Japanese.

Of course, I could only think of the band, until Elizabethさん mentioned the idea of "occultist technique," because Black Sabbath does refer to a Satanic ritual, also known as "Black Mass."

...Or am I totally off?

 

[Toritoribe]

The full paragraph

巨大な雄羊の姿をした堕天使型デジモン。全ての生命を滅亡せんとしたアポカリモンの残留思念データから産まれた闇の存在でもある。その行動原理はアポカリモンと同じく、あらゆる生命の殲滅にある。暗黒系の魔術を得意とし、その性格は残虐極まりない。しかし、知性が高く、策士家でもある。得意技の『ブラックサバス』は死の祝祭を祈祷する暗黒の呪文。この呪文を耳にした者は程なく死に至る。必殺技は全てを腐食させる暗黒の雲を発生させる『デスクラウド』。

Apparently, it's an explanation regarding メフィスモン(MEPHISMON), a digimon which appeared in a movie "Digimon Tamers Battle of Adventurers."
メフィスモン - デジモン図鑑 l デジモンオフィシャルポータルサイト デジモンウェブ
Digimon - Wikipedia
Digimon Tamers - Wikipedia

 

[Elizabeth]

I need some slight help/checking with this:

死の祝祭

I'm aware its means feasts of the dead, but I can't of anything synonymous to it/how else it can be rephrased or what its hitting at in the context of this sentence:

死の祝祭を祈祷する

死者祭宴 is what you're looking for ? For phrases more clearly literal to "Feasts of the Dead."

 

[Toritoribe]

死者祭宴 is what you're looking for ? For phrases more clearly literal to "Feasts of the Dead."

From the context, the clause 死の祝祭を祈祷する expresses that ブラックサバス is a fatal spell. So, 死の祝祭 would be not "死者の祝祭; feast/festival of the dead" but more likely "festival of death," as Nekojita-san interpreted. Death could be a festival to a demoniac creature...

 

[Elizabeth]

Death could be a festival to a demoniac creature...

Yeah, I pretty much stuck to the content of correcting "Feast of the Dead," the OP can wade through the rest of that context.

 

[Ryuk]

Hi, I was wondering if I had translated this correctly (I came across it on a website)。

失敗がなければ 成功はしない

I think it means "You cannot succed without failure" or something to that effect.

My literal (and very rough) translation is: Mistake [subject] unless success [subject] won't

Thank you for any corrections (I suspect I have gotten something wrong >_<).

 

[Elizabeth]

Hi, I was wondering if I had translated this correctly (I came across it on a website)。
失敗がなければ 成功はしない
I think it means "You cannot succeed without failure" or something to that effect.
My literal (and very rough) translation is: Mistake [subject] unless success [subject] won't
Thank you for any corrections (I suspect I have gotten something wrong >_<).

That's it exactly. Success won't come without failure.

恥ずかしがっていると上達しないよ。

 

[FinancialWar]

Hi, I was wondering if I had translated this correctly (I came across it on a website)。
失敗がなければ 成功はしない
I think it means "You cannot succed without failure" or something to that effect.
My literal (and very rough) translation is: Mistake [subject] unless success [subject] won't
Thank you for any corrections (I suspect I have gotten something wrong >_<).

yeah something to effect, literally more like "without failing, cant succeed".

「日本は近代産業発展の初期の段階から、政府による公共部門と、株式会社などによる民間部門か大きな役割を果たしていたと言うことが出来る。」

my translation

"it can be said that the first step of Japan's recent industrial development were the big roles played by the government in the public sector and the stock holding company in the private sector." ?????

Thanks for your help guys, i have just taken up Japanese 306: Japanese for business. and it's so god damn hard.....

 

[Toritoribe]

「日本は近代産業発展の初期の段階から、政府による公共部門と、株式会社などによる民間部門か大きな役割を果たしていたと言うことが出来る。」
my translation
"it can be said that the first step of Japan's recent industrial development were the big roles played by the government in the public sector and the stock holding company in the private sector." ?????
thanks for your help guys, i have just taken up Japanese 306: japanese for business. and it's so god damn hard.....

The core of the sentence

日本は公共部門と民間部門が役割を果たしていたと言うことが出来る
It can be said that in Japan the public sector and the private sector played roles.

近代産業発展の初期の段階から
from the early stage of the development of modern industry

Thus, it would be like this.

It can be said that in Japan the public sector by the government and the private sector by stock companies, etc. played big roles from the early stage of the development of modern industry.

 

[FinancialWar]

Thanks Tori!

 

[neokai]

I have a question to ask. When someone seeks to finish something quickly, he/she can sometimes say "そんなこと茶々とおわらせる。"

Checking 茶々 in the dictionary, I don't really understand how it can be used in this manner. Anyone can enlighten me pls?

 

[Elizabeth]

I have a question to ask. When someone seeks to finish something quickly, he/she can sometimes say "そんなこと茶々とおわらせる。"

Checking 茶々 in the dictionary, I don't really understand how it can be used in this manner. Anyone can enlighten me pls?

Really ? I would take it primarily as a name (茶々、ちゃちゃ、チャチャ) or, very occasionally, annoy, disturb, mess up etc. (related to 邪魔） meanings.

 

[Toritoribe]

have a question to ask. When someone seeks to finish something quickly, he/she can sometimes say "そんなこと茶々とおわらせる。"

Checking 茶々 in the dictionary, I don't really understand how it can be used in this manner. Anyone can enlighten me pls?

It should be not kanji but kana, ちゃちゃっと or ちゃっちゃと; an adverb to mean "quickly and/or efficiently."

 

[Elizabeth]

I have a question now, too, that has been bugging me for weeks. : What does 「手我」 mean on the packaging of these products (鉢巻、民芸。。。） I just bought in Japan ??? Is it a corporate name ? I searched and unfortunately didn't come out with anything.


捩じり鉢巻きで教えてくれる先生方、お疲れ様！


If no one knows, will ask my b-f again. The first time he made some joke asking me to explain what a 鉢巻 was instead. :emoji_rolling_eyes: Thank you everyone here for the useful info !

 

[Ashikaga]

I have a question now, too, that has been bugging me for weeks. What does 「手我」 mean on the packaging of these products (鉢巻、民芸。。。） I just bought in Japan ??? Is it a corporate name ? I searched and unfortunately didn't come out with anything.

I have never seen 手我. Could it be 手拭（てぬぐい）by any chance? People use tenugui for hachimaki...:?

Or maybe 手織り (Hand-woven)?

 

[FinancialWar]

第二次世界大戦後の日本の経済発展を、五つの期間に分けて見てみよう。


At the end of the sentence why are there two miru connecting each other and what is it trying to imply?

 

[Ashikaga]

第二次世界大戦後の日本の経済発展を、五つの期間に分けて見てみよう。
At the end of the sentence why are there two miru connecting each other and what is it trying to imply?

The first miru is "to see" while the second is miru as in してみる(try to/attempt to do something). 見る + してみる ＝ 見てみる