Need a word or phrase translated?
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Elizabeth
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This means actually "I CAN go to the store" in terms of being in a position to do so -- physically up to it, getting in the time, the money, transport etc"
うーん・・・
僕はお店に行かれます。？
母は僕にお店に行かれます。？
How about "お店に行ってもいいことになっている" for "I am allowed/have been permitted (by someone) to go to the store."
Did I translate this right? (from a manga)
chotto moguttekuru ne?
Won't you come diving for a little bit?
Also I did read the "Typing in Japanese" topic but couldn't get it to work, so please excuse the romaji
P.S. I'm new here, so Konnichiwa and all that stuff
chotto moguttekuru ne?
Won't you come diving for a little bit?
Also I did read the "Typing in Japanese" topic but couldn't get it to work, so please excuse the romaji
P.S. I'm new here, so Konnichiwa and all that stuff
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That means "I'm going to go dive," if there's no typos.
Just one more thing, こんにちわ[konnichiwa].;-)
Elizabeth
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mogutte = I will divedoumo arigatou gozaimasu
kuru = and then come back
The emphasis is on returning in Japanese, on going in English.
If it were "Won't you come (here) diving ??" the person would have to be calling from around the water.
Jericho Desu
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Elizabeth
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Take it to a site that does Japanese vulgarities along with porn phrases...Here's the image, although I myself don't know what it means
Jericho Desu
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Take it to a site that does Japanese vulgarities along with porn phrases...
Oh crap is it that bad? Nadiv you take the blame for that! *runs*
Hmmm... thanks Jericho, and sorry for the vulgarities.
It was taken from 人間 [面白くて変なことを考えている] which as far as I can see is no porn site (at least No nudity, can't judge its textual content).
Are the vulgarities addressed to whoever the arrow is pointing too?
It was taken from 人間 [面白くて変なことを考えている] which as far as I can see is no porn site (at least No nudity, can't judge its textual content).
Are the vulgarities addressed to whoever the arrow is pointing too?
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Elizabeth
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It's not hard core or anything. But the large print says something about a recent obsession with well endowed women, so someone here may be offended. It should probably be taken down. Although there could be a more indirect meaning I'm not getting either....
Hi everyone!
So the grammar in this sentence is pretty hard for me, and I was hoping someone could check it for me. It's from a manga.
たき様が我儘をおっしゃられたのはあれが初めてだったんだ。
Is this basically: "It was the first time anyone spoke to Taki-sama's willfullness", i.e. "It was the first time anyone talked back to Taki-sama [but he needed it]"?
The first half of the sentence is in the indirect passive voice, right? And Taki-sama is the subject but his behavior is the direct object? And then the whole first half is nominalized by のは? Is that all correct?
Hmm, actually, there's no actor in there, so the actor could be an abstract person or it could be the other character they're discussing- i.e. "anyone talked back" or "he talked back". Is that right?
Thanks!
So the grammar in this sentence is pretty hard for me, and I was hoping someone could check it for me. It's from a manga.
たき様が我儘をおっしゃられたのはあれが初めてだったんだ。
Is this basically: "It was the first time anyone spoke to Taki-sama's willfullness", i.e. "It was the first time anyone talked back to Taki-sama [but he needed it]"?
The first half of the sentence is in the indirect passive voice, right? And Taki-sama is the subject but his behavior is the direct object? And then the whole first half is nominalized by のは? Is that all correct?
Hmm, actually, there's no actor in there, so the actor could be an abstract person or it could be the other character they're discussing- i.e. "anyone talked back" or "he talked back". Is that right?
Thanks!
Ashikaga
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As you know, おっしゃる is a polite form of 言う. Now, おっしゃられる goes another step higher on the politeness ladder. It is not a passive form. It is Taki who is being selfish/willful.
It is not a speech often heard in casual conversations. It is only used when you are talking to/referring to someone who is a superior. i.e. Servant → Master, Business person → Very important client, etc.
There are different degrees of politeness, and おっしゃられる is at the top of that list. This faux-passive voice can be used with other verbs as well. For example,
食べる → 召し上がる → お召し上がりになる → お召し上がりになられる
As this Taki person is referred to as taki-SAMA, s/he must be someone very important.
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おっしゃられる is so-called 二重敬語[nijuu-keigo; double honorific.] This expression is considered grammatically incorrect at least in modern Japanese. (It was used basically for Imperial families/high-class nobles in archaic Japanese.)
But, at least, that expression conveys that the speaker pays high respect to たき.
Ashikaga
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I simply need the romaji spelling for this kanji because it's not showing up on any of the dictionaries I own.
爆乳
(P.S. Hey long time no see old forum.)
爆乳
(P.S. Hey long time no see old forum.)
Thank you both! The context made it obvious it wasn't a common speech pattern (and it's set more or less in WWII, so it being archaic isn't surprising either). I'm happy that I figured out correctly that Taki is the one who was being selfish/willful- I think that was my primary question. I thought that his subordinates were extremely politely criticizing him behind his back- which seems correct from what you write here.
But if it's not really passive, does that mean Taki was also the one doing the action of the verb (Taki spoke selfishly)? Or did someone else do the action like in a normal passive sentence (Taki was selfish and he was spoken to)?
Ashikaga
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It's not showing up on your dictionaries because it is a made-up word.
It is read BAKU-NYUU, and it means "a set of ginormous breasts".
Ashikaga
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Yes, it was Taki who was being selfish. わがままをおっしゃられる, as I said, is not passive, and it simply means speak/behave selfishly or unresonably (I think "being unreasonable" is closer in meaning to わがまま)、only said in a very polite way. The informal form of the same expression is わがままを言う. So, he was not "spoken to". It was Taki who "said" (言った/おっしゃった/おっしゃられた) something that was unreasonable and selfish (わがまま).
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(Wow that was fast) so basically it was Japanese Slang of some sort?
(P.S. Thanks for the quick response)
Ashikaga
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Not as widely used as another slang (巨乳/Kyonyuu - Big breasts) but yes.
Ah, thank you very much!
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Uh, the term "archaic" I mentioned above refers to almost "ancient," Heian Era, Nara Era , the era when the expression such like あれが初めてだったんだ never existed.
二重敬語(sometimes called 最高敬語) in archaic grammar, e.g. させ給ふ, おはします, was used to show who the subject/actor was without using a personal pronoun, because it was considered that to say directly an Imperial family's name was disrespectful.
