Need a word or phrase translated?

[Elizabeth]

Hi everybody, I need help on two things here, if you all don't mind1.UMA WA SUDENI SHITA E ARUITE ITTE SHIMAI MASHITA(need pretty much the whole thing translated, i get uma wa and that's it)2.TORI WA HANE O PATAPATA UGOKASHITE IMASU GA, TONDE WA IMASEN(need help with patapata ugokashite)Thanks everybodySeyzjp

Chigau houhou de benkyou shite kudasai.

 

[82riceballs]

I'm proud to say that I'm finally on the 5th chapter!

Thanks to everyone who has helped!

Anyways, please help me with this question:

Doraemon: あべこべクリームを'塗ると、熱いものに触ると、冷たく感じるんだ。そして、寒いときは、暖かく感じるんだよ。
Nobita: こんなのぬいじゃえ。脱げば脱ぐほど、暖かくなる。

What does "え" mean? is it some sort of sentence-ending particle?

 

[SEYZJP]

.UMA WA SUDENI SHITA E ARUITE ITTE SHIMAI MASHITA

The horse already walked underneath.

Shimai mashita indicates an action that has already been completed.

Thank you. I just have a few more things to clear up on this one/

SUDENI = does that indicate past tense, like already, too late ??

E = does it have any importance or is it just a particle?

ARUITE ITTE = what does ITTE represent?


Thank you

 

[Toritoribe]

Just wondering, does って put any special emphasis on the subject which は doesn't do? Like, what's the difference between 「君って、変わってるね。」 and 「君は、変わってるね。」? or 「日本語って難しいですね。」 and 「日本語は難しいですね。」?

That has the nuance like "改めて言うけど; I'm repeating myself but..." Probably both the speaker and the listener have the shared awareness about the difficulty of Japanese. (depending on context, of course)

Anyways, please help me with this question:
Doraemon: あべこべクリームを'塗ると、熱いものに触ると、冷たく感じるんだ。そして、寒いときは、暖かく感じるんだよ。
Nobita: こんなのぬいじゃえ。脱げば脱ぐほど、暖かくなる。
What does "え" mean? is it some sort of sentence-ending particle?

脱いじゃえ is the contraction of 脱いでしまえ; the imperative form 脱いでしまう. The liked thread below might be helpful. It's the quite same case.

-chae ending on verbs question | Japan Forum

I'm proud to say that I'm finally on the 5th chapter!

So your avatar is chaged to Doraemon.;-)

 

[Kirakira1232]

Thank you. I just have a few more things to clear up on this one/
SUDENI = does that indicate past tense, like already, too late ??
E = does it have any importance or is it just a particle?
ARUITE ITTE = what does ITTE represent?
Thank you

Sude ni
Yup you're right, its an adverb.

e or he
This is a particle and in this case it serves a similar function to "ni". It's not quite the same though.

Itte
This is the -te form of "ikimasu" which means "to go". In this case the "itte" modifies aruite and indicates the horse is walking away from the the speaker. Conversely Aruitekite (-te form of Kuru) means the horse is walking towards the speaker.

Chigau houhou de benkyou shite kudasai.

lol yeah I agree!

 

[Clarity]

Hi,
Pls advise if these are correct, thks!
2008 年8月8日- 金曜日
夕べWest Mallで映画『Journey to the Center of The Earth』を見ました。大好
き! おもしろかったと思います。
それから、ひとりで、日本語を勉強しました。
2008 年8月9日- 土曜日
朝9時半におきました。City Hallへ行きました。友達と昼食を食べました。
それから、映画 『The X-Files: I Want To Believe』を見ました。見てから、ひ
とりでKinoへいきました。漢字の辞書を買いました。
それから、ねむいのに、日本語を勉強しました。
Translations :
8th Aug 2008 - Friday
Watched "Journey to the Center of the Earth" with my friend. Loved it! I think that it was interesting.
After that, studied Japanese language alone.
9th Aug 2008 - Saturday
Woke up at 9.30 in the morning. Went to City Hall. Ate lunch with my frens.
After that, watched "The X-Files: I Want To Believe" with my friends. After watching, went to Kino alone. Bought a Kanji dictionary.
After that, even though Im sleepy, I studied Japanese.

Erm.. Anyone? Thanks in advance!

 

[AJBryant]

e or he
This is a particle and in this case it serves a similar function to "ni". It's not quite the same though.

Not in the sentence being asked about it's not.

Tony

 

[Tomii515]

I have a small question.

The word だめ means "too bad", right? Well, I was wondering which "too bad" it was:

as in:

A: I don't speak Japanese!
B: Aw, that's too bad! (in other words, "that sucks", "thank sticks", etc.)

or

A: You can't go to the store!
B: Well, That's too bad! I'm going anyway!

よろしくお願いします。＾＾

 

[Charles Barkley]

I dont see the point of starting with the English word 'bad', since that is just going to throw you in many different directions depending on the context, but here are my suggestions:

For the first (that's too bad !) that means "what a shame"

もったいないな
残念だな。
For more serious times (something bad happened to someone) お気の毒に

Though I will say that if you say "日本語が話せない" in Japan, the answer that you receive will not be an equivalent of "That sucks!" It will be something like "そんなことないよ！Tomiさんはとても上手だよ！じょうず！"


For the second one, I don't really know how to say that exactly (as an adult, you dont really come across these situations much in Japan).

Personally I would probably say something like

余計な世話しないでくれ （大きな世話だ） which is more like 'mind your own business' OR

あなたがなんといっても、僕は行く。 Whatever you say, I am going.

あなたが許してくれないなんて、僕には関係ないだろう。僕は行く。 You think I need your permission? I am going.

 

[undrentide]

I have a small question.

The word だめ means "too bad", right? Well, I was wondering which "too bad" it was:

as in:

A: I don't speak Japanese!
B: Aw, that's too bad! (in other words, "that sucks", "thank sticks", etc.)

or

A: You can't go to the store!
B: Well, That's too bad! I'm going anyway!

よろしくお願いします。＾＾

I don't think ダメ fits in the sentence you mentioned...
Basically ダメ means "no", or something is in a state that it should not be (thus "not good", "shoudn't", "mustn't"...)
It implies sense of prohibition and/or unacceptableness. (The degree really varies depending on the context, from a strong prohibition to or mild "no" just light-heartedly said.)
It can be replaced with いけない／いけません.

e.g.

男の子： 「遊びにいってもいい？」
お母さん： 「だめ！」

Boy: Can I go out now?
Mum: No!

(Someone tried something, but failed and said.)
「だめだ～」

It doesn't work...
It's hopeless...
I cannot do that...
etc.

(A parent is scolding his child)
「だめじゃないか、こんなことしちゃあ！」
You mustn't do that!

I think you can use だめ for "(it) sucks", like
That shop sucks
あの店は駄目だな

but I think it is a bit different in nunance from "too bad".
If it is to express disappointment or disgust, I think words like these would more appropriate:
ひどい
最低
残念
そんなぁ～

I hope the above answers to your question.

 

[Tomii515]

Oh, thanks. Apparently the meaning I thought it was, was the wrong word anyway o_o;;
I guess I should've checked to book in it meaning "no good" instead of "too bad" LOL
Thank you both so much anyway x]

 

[Kirakira1232]

I always thought "Thats too bad" was "Zannen desu ne.."

 

[Elizabeth]

I always thought "Thats too bad" was "Zannen desu ne.."

I think he meant in a sarcastic way.
More or less the equivalent of "それはいけないな・いけません）" (Oh, that's too bad...but you really should have done XYX to prevent it" for other people in talking about one's own feigned sympathy.

気にするな・しないで など。。is enough of a "let it be" response in my opinion.

 

[Elizabeth]

Not in the sentence being asked about it's not.
Tony

While "ni aruku" doesn't exist grammatically, were it around there's every reason to believe it would serve the same function as "e aruku"...

 

[AJBryant]

Man, this is embarrassing... I don't know what I was thinking about. I must have been mixing up posts somehow. You're quite right.

I really don't know where my brain was then. Man... I really need to get back on the caffeine.

Tony

 

[Elizabeth]

8th Aug 2008 - Friday
Watched "Journey to the Center of the Earth" with my friend. Loved it! I think that it was interesting.

2008 年8月8日- 金曜日
夕べWest Mallで映画『Journey to the Center of The Earth』を見ました。大好
き! おもしろかったと思います。

9th Aug 2008 - Saturday

After that, watched "The X-Files: I Want To Believe" with my friends.

2008 年8月9日- 土曜日

それから、映画 『The X-Files: I Want To Believe』を見ました。

『Journey to the Center of The Earth』という映画を見ました。
『The X-Files: I Want To Believe』という映画を見ました。

Where is the mention of friends for both of these sentences ?

Bought a Kanji dictionary.

漢英字典 ??

After that, even though Im sleepy, I studied Japanese.

ねむかったのに（けれど。。）、日本語を勉強しました。


These are just the most basic corrections. There are better, more natural, ways of putting your ideas of course but at least it was fully understandable.

 

[SEYZJP]

Hi everyone, I need help on these few phrases please

1.TORIDE DAKE GA TA NO TATEMONO KARA HANARETE SABAKU NI TATTE IMASU

2.SHIRO GA TA NO TATEMONO NI KAKOMARTE IMASU.

I believe they have some relation to the building and castle and their location but I am not sure what exactly. Can anyone give me a translation please?


Thanks in advance


Seyzjp

 

[Toritoribe]

Hi everyone, I need help on these few phrases please
1.TORIDE DAKE GA TA NO TATEMONO KARA HANARETE SABAKU NI TATTE IMASU
2.SHIRO GA TA NO TATEMONO NI KAKOMARTE IMASU.
I believe they have some relation to the building and castle and their location but I am not sure what exactly. Can anyone give me a translation please?
Thanks in advance
Seyzjp

I really need help with verbs!! | Japan Forum

What is your OWN idea about the dictionary form of HANARETE, TATTE, KAKOMARTE?

 

[Kirakira1232]

Hi everyone, I need help on these few phrases please
1.TORIDE DAKE GA TA NO TATEMONO KARA HANARETE SABAKU NI TATTE IMASU
2.SHIRO GA TA NO TATEMONO NI KAKOMARTE IMASU.
I believe they have some relation to the building and castle and their location but I am not sure what exactly. Can anyone give me a translation please?
Thanks in advance
Seyzjp

The key words here are Tatemono, Hanarete, Sabaku, Tatte imasu (verb root = Tatsu). Look up what these mean and see if you can work it out. Toride and Shiro mean Fortress and Castle respectively.

As for Kakomarte...do you mean Kakomarete?

 

[SEYZJP]

Thanks for the quick reply. Yea it was Kakomarete.

Just a few exact translations needed:

What does TA NO, HANARETE, and TATTE mean?


Thanks a lot


Seyzjp

 

[undrentide]

Thanks for the quick reply. Yea it was Kakomarete.

Just a few exact translations needed:

What does TA NO, HANARETE, and TATTE mean?


Thanks a lot


Seyzjp

What do you guess the original form of "hanarete" and "tatte"?
You should try first by youself...

"Ta no" is the same as "hoka no".
Did you look up the word "ta" in your dictionary?

 

[SEYZJP]

ta (no) - other, another'
Hanarete - to leave; to get free; to cut oneself off;
Tatte - to pass; to lapse;

I don't really see how they would fit into the context of the phrases that I have.
That's what I got for the root forms of the verb when looking them up online. I really am not sure what they'd be in root forms which is why I came on here. I do try on my own first. I do not come on here to waste anybodies time, if I am really stuck with things I'll post them, but only after I've looked the word up in the dictionary, look in an online dictionary, and looked at my own personal notes on verbs.

For some reason I think tatte means "to stand" but i thought the phrasing had "tatta". or vice versa. I am getting confused with the ending of verbs in E or A....

I do not know the word "hoka no".


Thank you

seyzjp

 

[undrentide]

ta (no) - other, another'
Hanarete - to leave; to get free; to cut oneself off;
Tatte - to pass; to lapse;

i don't really see how they would fit into the context of the phrases that i have.
thats what i got for the root forms of the verb when looking them up online. i really am not sure what they'd be in root forms which is why i came on here. i do try on my own first. i do not come on here to waste anybodies time, if i am really stuck with things i'll post them, but only after i've looked the word up in the dictionary, look in an online dictionary, and looked at my own personal notes on verbs.

for some reason i think tatte means "to stand" but i thought the phrasing had "tatta". or vice versa. i am getting confused with the ending of verbs in E or A....

i do not know the word "hoka no".


thank you

seyzjp

Now you posted what you interpret these words, it is much much easier for us to offer you help!

We do understand that you have difficulties, but unless you state it clearly (with your own try like the above post), it looks like as if you were just asking "translate it for me" (without bothering to try it youself) instead of "please help me to learn Japanese grammar".
That's the reason many members quoted the past thread and/or ask your try first. I hope you'll understand the point.

1.TORIDE DAKE GA TA NO TATEMONO KARA HANARETE SABAKU NI TATTE IMASU
2.SHIRO GA TA NO TATEMONO NI KAKOMARTE IMASU.

ta (no) - other, another'

ta and hoka, both means "other" "another" (noun).
The particle no here makes this noun into adjective.
Normally Japanese adjective modifies its following noun, thus in your sentence ﾂ"ta no" modifies "tatemono".
I trust that now you can understand it means "other buildings".

Hanarete - to leave; to get free; to cut oneself off;

Hanarete - original form is hanareru.
Hanareru has rather a broad meaning, to leave, to stand off, away, etc.
The key is "to make distance" from something.
You can guess from the context that toride distances itself from other buildings. (kara = from)

I strongly recommend to learn about various te-form, the meanings and how to use it.
Compound Sentences - Tae Kim's Japanese grammar guide

Tatte - to pass; to lapse;

No - it is different "tatsu". ﾅ弛窶堙?
The most common and basic verb "tatsu" is 窶板ｧ窶堙 to stand and ﾅ椎｡窶堙 to stand (but used only for buildings).

It is correct that you felt it means "to stand".

And now you have to learn special usage of te-form i.e. "~te iru".
Various uses of the te-form - Tae Kim's Japanese grammar guide

 

[Elizabeth]

ta (no) - other, another'
Hanarete - to leave; to get free; to cut oneself off;
Tatte - to pass; to lapse;

i don't really see how they would fit into the context of the phrases that i have.
thats what i got for the root forms of the verb when looking them up online. i really am not sure what they'd be in root forms which is why i came on here. i do try on my own first. i do not come on here to waste anybodies time, if i am really stuck with things i'll post them, but only after i've looked the word up in the dictionary, look in an online dictionary, and looked at my own personal notes on verbs.

for some reason i think tatte means "to stand" but i thought the phrasing had "tatta". or vice versa. i am getting confused with the ending of verbs in E or A....

i do not know the word "hoka no".


thank you

seyzjp

Don't worry about us. For sure you're only frustrating yourself, wasting your own time trying to get a foothold on advanced forms, kanji and grammar/sentence structure without any kind of foundation in the simple stuff like "hoka no" (much more basic than "ta") or even Japanese kana ??? That is a crazy, backwards, totally unworkable idea of the learning process of ANY language imho.

 

[SEYZJP]

ta and hoka, both means "other" "another" (noun).
The particle no here makes this noun into adjective.
Normally Japanese adjective modifies its following noun, thus in your sentence "ta no" modifies "tatemono".
I trust that now you can understand it means "other buildings".

ahh ok! then TA/HOKA NO TATEMONO would be like the "other buildings". it would literrally be like "the building's other". Like watashi no uni would be "my dog". thank you


Elizabeth, what you would recommend I do as different study habits?