いえ、そうじゃないです、AJBryantさん。Actually, "じゃない" is the negative of "です."
Some TEXTBOOKS may explain so, じゃないです is normally used as a polite negation form in REAL conversation. It sounds less polite than ではありません, though. Probably it's the same issue how to treat the two types of the polite nagation form of i-adjectives.じゃないです is something that was generally considered a mistake, but one hears it a lot as someone says じゃない, then realizes at the last minute that it's not as polite as they should be speaking, so they tack a ですon the end. What they SHOULD say, instead of じゃないです, is じゃありません.
Tony
いえ、そうじゃないです、AJBryantさん。じゃない(plane/non polite form) is the negation form of だ.
Please refer to the llinked pages below.I think you get the point I was making. Come on now.
Tony
I agree ! ない and い形容詞 followed by です must be applied following the same rule put to の、ん + です (nominalizer + copula) with verbs.Some TEXTBOOKS may explain so, じゃないです is normally used as a polite negation form in REAL conversation. It sounds less polite than ではありません, though. Probably it's the same issue how to treat the two types of the polite nagation form of i-adjectives.
e.g.
今年の夏は暑くないです。
今年の夏は暑くありません。
I was so surprised to hear that some textbooks explain the former expression is not correct.
In your dictionary, look up the verb, KOROBU.1.kanojo tachi wa KORONDE imasen
Booshi wa kare no ashi ni nosete arimasu2.booshi WAKARE no ashi ni NOSETE arimasu
Look up the verb, OKU.3.ichimai no e ga yuka ni OITE arimasu
e ga kabe ni kakatte imasu4.e GAKABE ni KAKATTE imasu
Look up the verb, WARAU.kanojo wa WARATTE imasu
On a side note I am have a real problem with verbs(as I have said Rosetta Stone does not conjugate or explain what the verb is). Can anyone recommend a good online site that will explain or allow me to identify specific verbs? Or maybe even just help me identify the root of the verb that way I can build on it and be able to identify it?
Hi thank you all for your help up tot his point. Just got through a day worth of studying and need some help on these phrases.
1.kanojo tachi wa KORONDE imasen
2.booshi WAKARE no ashi ni NOSETE arimasu
3.ichimai no e ga yuka ni OITE arimasu
4.e GAKABE ni KAKATTE imasu
5.kanojo wa WARATTE imasu
If anyone can help me out with those I'd really appreciate it. The ones in caps are the ones I do not know. everything else I am pretty good with.
On a side note I am have a real problem with verbs(as I have said Rosetta Stone does not conjugate or explain what the verb is). Can anyone recommend a good online site that will explain or allow me to identify specific verbs? Or maybe even just help me identify the root of the verb that way I can build on it and be able to identify it?
Domo arigato
Seyzjp
This page may be also helpful.On a side note I am have a real problem with verbs(as I have said Rosetta Stone does not conjugate or explain what the verb is). Can anyone recommend a good online site that will explain or allow me to identify specific verbs? Or maybe even just help me identify the root of the verb that way I can build on it and be able to identify it?
Please refer to the llinked pages below.
*じゃ is the euphonic change of では.
Copula | Japan Forum
Expressing state-of-being - Tae Kim's Japanese grammar guide
Speaking polite Japanese - Tae Kim's Japanese grammar guide
Sigh.Sigh.
Never mind.
I haven't decided whether you are deliberately being obtuse or really don't get the point, so I'm not going to press the issue.
Tony
いえ、そうじゃないです、AJBryantさん。じゃない(plane/non polite form) is the negation form of だ.
サメは魚だ。
サメは魚です。
イルカは魚じゃない。
イルカは魚じゃないです/ではありません。
Some TEXTBOOKS may explain so, じゃないです is normally used as a polite negation form in REAL conversation. It sounds less polite than ではありません, though. Probably it's the same issue how to treat the two types of the polite nagation form of i-adjectives.
e.g.
今年の夏は暑くないです。
今年の夏は暑くありません。
I was so surprised to hear that some textbooks explain the former expression is not correct.
Yes that's right. そうです。Wow, thanks so much
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janai desu is correct but you could also say janai (alone) and it would be correct but less polite than tacking on desu?
What I decided to do with those was expand on a repetition of your own question.I didnt really get your examples, but anyways,
Thanks elizabeth-san!
あああ…そうだねWhat I Decided To Do With Those Was Expand On A Repetition Of Your Own Question.
Translation:
1. じゃない Is In A Conversation With Friends.
2. じゃない You Use In A Conversation With Really Close Friends.
I hope you guys don't mind me posting all my random Japanese language questions here!
okay
Tae Kim's Guide says..
（１） 高いビル。- Tall building.
（２） 高くないビル。- Not tall building.
（３） 高かったビル。- Building that was tall.
（４） 高くなかったビル。- Building that was not tall.
Now, this makes sense but my textbook contradicts it.
Textbook (EASY JAPANESE 'A Guide to Spoken and Written Japanese, Jack Seward):
"The past tense positive of all A (-i) adjectives is easily formed by dropping the final i and substituting katta. Thus, the past tense of chiisai (small) becomes chiisakatta. However, this past positive form can only be used as a verb," (at the end of the sentence) "e.g., Sono hako wa chiisakatta (That box was small). We cannot say chiisakatta hako for a 'box that was small'"
Which is correct? Is jack saying that only to steer readers away from unnatural speech? :?
ありがとう
Actually they don't contradict - Tae Kim's page just showing the possible conjugation while the text book adds some information from the nuance/meaning.
１．その木は小さかった
The tree was small
２．小さかった木
The tree that was small
I think the difference between these two sentences are the same in Japanese and English - 1. simply states that the tree was small, it's the past tense of the tree is small.
2. is a little more complicated, the tree that was small implies that it used to be small but not any more.
You can use 2 but the meaning is different from 1. (In that sense, your text book says "you cannot use it".)
As far as the i-adjective conjugation, removing "i" and replace "katta" to make past tense is correct.
We cannot say chiisakatta hako for a 'box that was small'"
２．小さかった木
The tree that was small（３） 高かったビル。- Building that was tall.
I dont get it.
If he said that you cant use it to get the same tone/nuance that you would from 'hako wa chiisakatta' then i guess i could see that. But he just says We cannot say chiisakatta hako for a 'box that was small' (not that box was small)
Hmm, maybe I don't really understand the nuance of "box that was small".
"past tense adjective + noun" can be used in a specific situation, that means the noun in question is no longer the same as it was in the past.
ki wa chiisakatta: the tree was small.
Simple statement about the past. You saw the tree and you now say "ki wa chiisakatta", that meas it was small and that's all. You don't know what it is like now - it might be still the same size, or it could have grown quite big by now... there's nothing implied about it.
chiisakatta ki: the tree that was small.
This strongly implies that the tree's being small was the past thing, it is not small any more.
e.g.
3 nen mae niwa chiisakatta ki wa ima dewa taiboku ni natte iru.
(The tree which was small three years ago has now grown into a huge tree.)
You cannot use "chiisakatta ki" in the same sense as "ki wa chiisakatta" but definitely you can use for "the tree which once was small".
I'd have to say Jack Seward is simply wrong. You CAN say 小さかった箱 for a "box that was small".
Hi everyone. I am still having a ton of trouble with verbs. I just don't get the concept. I get the conjugated form but I don't know how to go from the conjugated form to the root form. Here are some that I need help with
2.HANASU KOTO DEKIRU OTOKONOHITO WA DARE DESU KA?
(I can only imagine dekiru is some combination of iru with another word?)