Need a word or phrase translated?

[Fuumei]

よく indeed means well, but it is also used to emphasise one's feeling, both positive and negative.
よく、よくぞ : in admiration, amazement, surprise, etc., basically positive.
e.g.
よく（ぞ）言った！ I'm glad you've said that. (Admiration, "well said!")
よくやった！ Well done!
よくぞ聞いてくれました I'm glad you asked. (The speaker wanted to be asked
よくも: how could you! how dare you! (with negative connotation. Degree varies from lightly appalled to accusing, Blaming, disgusted, etc.)
よくも言ったな！ How dare you say that!
よくもやったな！
よくもまあ、これだけ散らかしたものだ。 How did you managed to mess it up!
Your question 「よくとれたね！」 is the former one, the speaker is either amazed or impressed that the person managed to get the ticket which is not easy to obtain (because the train is very popular or it is always crowded, etc.)
So it is something like "wow, you managed to get it!" or "how did you manage to get it?!".

Ah I see. I was way off there. Thanks for adding in all the extra examples too. As always, your help is top notch. Thanks again Undrentide-san! :emoji_writing_hand:

 

[kawaiisan]

This may be more detail than you ever wanted to know, but since I tracked it down...a nice post from Sep '06 courtesy of Japanese member umbabasan...:
There are still a lot cases where it seems there isn't much difference between こと and の, or where there is only a strong preference for one over the other like ＸＸＸのがすきです。 while in other instances a mistake is ungrammatical.
それぞれの会話の状況によるので一言では違いを言えません。:emoji_nerd:
Since it seems confusing 「の」and 「こと」, may I keep going? Sorry if you have already heard about this.
These are the sentences you can NOT replace の with こと.
They all are telling who/what, when, where and why.
留学するの（when）は来年です。
会うの（when）はいつですか？。
歌うの（who）は誰ですか？。
結婚したの（who）は彼女の兄です。
仕事をするの（when）は明日からです。
一緒に遊んだの（where）はあの公園です。
失敗するのは（why）練習不足だからだ。
返事が来るの（when）は１週間後です。
勉強するのは（where）この教室だ。
人気があるの（what）は野球です。
スポーツを始めたの（why）は健康のためです。
Sentences の can be replaced with こと.
They are always followed by verb, adjective, adverb, form to do with your emotion. and other noun.
留学すること（の）が目標だ。
会うこと（の）が楽しみです。
歌うこと（の）が好きだ。
結婚したこと（の）を後悔している。
仕事をすること（の）は面倒くさい。
一緒に遊んだこと（の）を覚えている。
返事が来ること（の）を待っています。
失敗すること（の）には慣れています。
勉強すること（の）は得意だ。
人気があること（の）はうれしい。
スポーツを始めたこと（の）を知っています。

Didn't know about that, thanks a lot for that :emoji_grinning: I'll be reading them (I can only read half the kanji, just started learning kanji recently) soon enough :emoji_grinning:

Thanks again, Elizabeth-san :

And these smileys are so cool :emoji_relaxed:

 

[Glenn]

For you, since I'm killing time anyway:

留学するの（when）は来年です。
りゅうがく らいねん

会うの（when）はいつですか？。
あ・う

歌うの（who）は誰ですか？。
うた・う だれ

結婚したの（who）は彼女の兄です。
けっこん かのじょ あに

仕事をするの（when）は明日からです。
しごと あした／あす／みょうにち (you get your pick on this on; the latter two are more formal)

一緒に遊んだの（where）はあの公園です。
いっしょ あそ・んだ こうえん

失敗するのは（why）練習不足だからだ。
しっぱい れんしゅうぶそく

返事が来るの（when）は１週間後です。
へんじ くる いっしゅうかんご

勉強するのは（where）この教室だ。
べんきょう きょうしつ

人気があるの（what）は野球です。
にんき やきゅう

スポーツを始めたの（why）は健康のためです。
はじ・めた けんこう

留学すること（の）が目標だ。
りゅうがく もくひょう

会うこと（の）が楽しみです。
あ・う たの・しみ

歌うこと（の）が好きだ。
うた・う す・き

結婚したこと（の）を後悔している。
けっこん こうかい (this sentence made me laugh)

仕事をすること（の）は面倒くさい。
しごと めんどう

一緒に遊んだこと（の）を覚えている。
いっしょ おぼ・えている

返事が来ること（の）を待っています。
へんじ く・る ま・っています

失敗すること（の）には慣れています。
しっぱい な・れています

勉強すること（の）は得意だ。
べんきょう とくい

人気があること（の）はうれしい。
にんき

スポーツを始めたこと（の）を知っています。
はじ・めた し・っています

The ・ mark where the kanji reading ends and the okurigana start, in case you didn't know. And I know you know some of the kanji (if not most), but maybe this will help someone else out too.

 

[MikeM]

Hey guys, would you mind telling me what these two phrases translate to?

もうやだよーー

じょんともってぃーのいじめっこ!


Thanks.

 

[japanese_is_great]

How do you pronounce this: 撃ゃれば

I think in romaji this is: gekyareba (I'm assume the small "ゃ ya" turns "撃 geki" into gekya)

I know it means something like: "be shot"... is the verb gekyaru in dictionary form?

I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

 

[undrentide]

How do you pronounce this: 撃ゃれば
I think in romaji this is: gekyareba (I'm assume the small "ゃ ya" turns "撃 geki" into gekya)
I know it means something like: "be shot"... is the verb gekyaru in dictionary form?
I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

Where did you find this "phrase"? To be honest I cannot pronounce it.
I'm wondering if it is a result of garbled text for character encoding problem...

 

[Glenn]

もうやだよーー :emoji_frowning2:

"I can't take this anymore!" "I'm sick of this!" etc.

じょんともってぃーのいじめっこ!

"(A/the) kid/person being bullied by Jo(h)n and Motty (Morty?)" maybe

Or "Jo(h)n and Morty (?), the two kids/people who are being bullied"

 

[japanese_is_great]

Where did you find this "phrase"? To be honest I cannot pronounce it.
I'm wondering if it is a result of garbled text for character encoding problem...

It is from a manga called Zetman... Here's the text from the entire panel:

どこを撃ゃればば苦しまずに逝ける?

I just read it myself, and tried to find the kanji online...

The text is written vertically: ど then こ then を and then 撃ゃ on the next line etc... I was confused by the ゃ...

 

[Glenn]

You aren't the only one. The only other thing I can think of would be utyarebaba. The ゃ isn't the only strange thing. Why the two ばs? I can guess the meaning, though.

 

[undrentide]

It is from a manga called Zetman... Here's the text from the entire panel:
どこを撃ゃればば苦しまずに逝ける?
I just read it myself, and tried to find the kanji online...
The text is written vertically: ど then こ then を and then 撃ゃ on the next line etc... I was confused by the ゃ...

Unless the author is someone who tends to make up new expression or try to use some "unique" expressions, it should be
どこを撃たれれば苦しまずに逝ける？（どこをうたれればくるしまずにいける？）
With where (of my body) shot I can go (= die) without suffering?

じょんともってぃーのいじめっこ!

"(A/the) kid/person being bullied by Jo(h)n and Motty (Morty?)" maybe
Or "Jo(h)n and Morty (?), the two kids/people who are being bullied"

Or
"Jo(h)n and Motty(?), you (two) are bullies!"

 

[Glenn]

Or
"Jo(h)n and Motty(?), you (two) are bullies!"

Talk about dire need of context!

 

[japanese_is_great]

You aren't the only one. The only other thing I can think of would be utyarebaba. The ゃ isn't the only strange thing. Why the two ばs? I can guess the meaning, though.

Oops... sorry that was only supposed to be one ば... other than that I believe I got the text as it is in the manga...

 

[japanese_is_great]

Unless the author is someone who tends to make up new expression or try to use some "unique" expressions, it should be
どこを撃たれれば苦しまずに逝ける？（どこをうたれればくるしまずにいける？）
With where (of my body) shot I can go (= die) without suffering?

Thanks undrentide! So in romaji would that be:
doko o utareba kurushi mazu ni yukeru ?
So does mazu mean without ?

 

[undrentide]

Thanks undrentide! So in romaji would that be:
doko o gekitareba kurushi mazu yukeru ?

No. doko o utarereba kurushimazuni ikeru?
(Yukeru is also valid but normally it is ikeru.)

So does mazu mean without ?

Not really...

kurushimu : suffer
kurushimanai : not suffer + de : with
kurushimazu : not suffer (old style) + ni : with
To understand this, you first need to learn basic grammar.

 

[japanese_is_great]

No. doko o utarereba kurushimazuni ikeru?
(Yukeru is also valid but normally it is ikeru.)


Not really...

kurushimu : suffer
kurushimanai : not suffer + de : with
kurushimazu : not suffer (old style) + ni : with
To understand this, you first need to learn basic grammar.

Thanks a lot undrentide.

 

[Glenn]

No. doko o utarereba kurushimazuni ikeru?
(Yukeru is also valid but normally it is ikeru.)

Really? I was hoping that this would be a case of "we keep the older sounding reading for this version of the word to avoid confusion" variety. You know, like 行く would commonly be いく, and 逝く would commonly be ゆく.

By the way, I never really thought about this before, but would the past form of ゆく be ゆいた or ゆった? Can't say I've ever heard it. I'd guess ゆった, but I can't be certain on that.

 

[undrentide]

Really? I was hoping that this would be a case of "we keep the older sounding reading for this version of the word to avoid confusion" variety. You know, like 行く would commonly be いく, and 逝く would commonly be ゆく.

Yes, I agree. People use "yuku" for 逝く to differentiate it from "iku" 行く.
But I'm not sure which is really common. I myself tend to pronounce it "iku".

By the way, I never really thought about this before, but would the past form of ゆく be ゆいた or ゆった? Can't say I've ever heard it. I'd guess ゆった, but I can't be certain on that.

I think in this case it should be 逝った（いった）.
When people hear ゆった, it would be most likely to be understood as 言った.

 

[Glenn]

I think in this case it should be 逝った（いった）.
When people hear ゆった, it would be most likely to be understood as 言った.

Yeah, I had thought that too, which is why I wasn't sure about ゆった. So ゆく isn't really a full verb, then, eh?

 

[lamshopping]

Hello again everyone

I have two lines (one from a poem) that I can't figure out exactly what the meaning is and would like to have discussed here on this message board.

1. the poetry line is something like... 我ここに光を求めん (can't remember the line so I typed it in the search engine and got another poem instead)

Now from my current knowledge, the ん can be a lazy way of saying る as in the standard 求める。 But it is unlikely that a poem would have such slang. Could it possibly be a dialect form (Kansai?).

If not, what exactly does that line mean? Does it mean, "I am searching for light here" or "I am NOT searching for light here?" (recently got into Kansai dialect and noticed how many ん sounds are used. So it could be a negative form or just, ん！)

2. わかりかねます - the わかり is from 分かる but what about the かねます part? I am aware that みかねる means to be unable to let pass unnoticed but かねる with わかる？ Anyone able to clarify?

It will be great help if anyone could shed some light. Thanks for your time everyone.

 

[Glenn]

Hello again everyone

I have two lines (one from a poem) that I can't figure out exactly what the meaning is and would like to have discussed here on this message board.

1. the poetry line is something like... 我ここに光を求めん (can't remember the line so I typed it in the search engine and got another poem instead)

Now from my current knowledge, the ん can be a lazy way of saying る as in the standard 求める。 But it is unlikely that a poem would have such slang. Could it possibly be a dialect form (Kansai?).

That only happens when it's followed by ナ行 as far as I can remember. It never happens at the end of a word.

If not, what exactly does that line mean? Does it mean, "I am searching for light here" or "I am NOT searching for light here?" (recently got into Kansai dialect and noticed how many ん sounds are used. So it could be a negative form or just, ん！)

It's possible you're looking at an old volitional form; i.e., 求めん = 求めよう. I would guess that, actually, given that it's a poem and before that comes 我ここ..., which isn't exactly modern.

2. わかりかねます - the わかり is from 分かる but what about the かねます part? I am aware that みかねる means to be unable to let pass unnoticed but かねる with わかる？ Anyone able to clarify?

"It is/would be difficult for me to understand/know." Depends on context, but かねる is used to mean that you can't do something due to it being psychologically difficult. 平気でできないことを表す I believe is how it was described to me.

 

[MikeM]

what's this one?

もういやだぁぁぁ

thanks

 

[Cue]

What's this one?
もういやだぁぁぁ

I come up with "I'm fed up with it~~~!", "I've had enoooough!!" or "I'm sooo sick of it", there should be a lot of other ways to say it in English.
Literally, "Mou" means "already" or "anymore", and "Iyada" may mean "no" or "don't want", and the little "aaa" added at the end ... hmm, it's prolly used to show cuteness or to soften the phrase...?
I write like that myself, only in a casual conversation, though, but I don't know why I add it...

 

[japanese_is_great]

Can someone translate this for me:
あぶないもオー
Thanks.

 

[Glenn]

what's this one?

もういやだぁぁぁ

thanks

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Can someone translate this for me:
あぶないもオー
Thanks.

"It's dangerous, god/jeez!"

 

[japanese_is_great]

"It's dangerous, god/jeez!"

Thanks a lot Glenn!