Need a word or phrase translated?

[Elizabeth]

Thanks. Unfortunately I can't type hirigana and the rest currently with my setup. Anyway, I've been staring at this thing all day and my mind is really foggy I guess.
With what you said in mind, how would you write that sentence out in english? Glenn did a good job, but I think he left out the "de" portion. I'm still a bit confused on how that ties in with "arawashita mono". Sorry, I hope I don't get you all angry. I'm a bit dissapointed in myself for not being able to understand it alone. But, it can't be helped.

"The thing that shows (or simply 'what expresses') the appearance of the blooming of flowers from south to north along the Japanese archipelago with a line is the sakura frontline."

"The sakura frontline is the thing that expresses in a line the appearance of the blooming of flowers from south to north along the Japanese archipelago."

 

[J C]

It's almost that time of the year in Japan where they show on the weather forecasts where the sakura are blooming so people can plan their HANAMI and get quietly sozzled under the trees:

Sakura Forecast

 

[Fuumei]

"The thing that shows (or simply 'what expresses') the appearance of the blooming of flowers from south to north along the Japanese archipelago with a line is the sakura frontline."
"The sakura frontline is the thing that expresses in a line the appearance of the blooming of flowers from south to north along the Japanese archipelago."

Thank you all for your help. I'll study what your answers and get this to work. Thanks again.

 

[Elizabeth]

Thank you all for your help. I'll study what your answers and get this to work. Thanks again.

Think of it as a response to a total Japanese novice traveling very leisurely from Febuary to May south to north through the countryside seeing cherry blossoms for the first time and asking how that concept is represented in the language and on a map ? The thing that expresses [it] is with a line called the sakura zensen....

 

[Apple Bomb]

Hi, I was trying to read The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle in Japanese and came across a few things I was wondering about. If anyone can help me clear up one or two of them that would be amazing!

考えみれば。。。If you can think about it? This was obviously always followed by something else.

考えず I seem to remember zu being a replacement for "nai" in some dialect or something. But Mei Kashihara says it. Am I totally off here?

大きな 小さな I've seen this a lot, but they're 'i" adjectives. So why the "na"?

Sorry if these are dumb questions.

 

[KrazyKat]

Hi, I was trying to read The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle in Japanese and came across a few things I was wondering about. If anyone can help me clear up one or two of them that would be amazing!
考えみれば。。。If you can think about it? This was obviously always followed by something else.
考えず I seem to remember zu being a replacement for "nai" in some dialect or something. But Mei Kashihara says it. Am I totally off here?
大きな 小さな I've seen this a lot, but they're 'i" adjectives. So why the "na"?
Sorry if these are dumb questions.

probably: 考えてみれば The -te miru form - to try(give something a go)
考えずに like: ないで to mean without doing. The most common way to say this.
Yup, they are na adjectives too. There is also okashii and okashi na, and probably some others.

 

[Mikawa Ossan]

probably: 考えてみれば The -te miru form - to try(give something a go)
考えずに like: ないで to mean without doing. The most common way to say this.
Yup, they are na adjectives too. There is also okashii and okashi na, and probably some others.

I concur with KrazyKat, although on occasion you will see the 考えずに pattern without the に.

 

[Apple Bomb]

Thanks for the help.

So is --zu just a casual abbreviation? I'm trying to get more of a feel of who would use this stuff and when, but it's kind of hard when you don't know many native speakers.

 

[KrazyKat]

It explains what its about on this site
www.nihongoresources.com
under:
2.1.1.4. Negative perfect

Its not actually an abbreviation, and isn't a dialect. I think anyone can use it and its fairly common.

 

[Kama]

What does "su" mean in a sentence of: 犬の置物らしいす ?

 

[Glenn]

I think that's probably っす, and it's used as an abbreviation for です. There's a post about it here that explains it's formation rules.

 

[Mikawa Ossan]

That or it's a typo where the で was accidentally left out.

 

[Glenn]

Haha, well, we won't know until Kama comes back, but sometimes the simplest solution is the best one!

 

[Elizabeth]

I think that's probably っす, and it's used as an abbreviation for です. There's a post about it here that explains it's formation rules.

っす is used in the sporting world a lot, like when talking about sumo . At least that's what I remember hearing from a friend -- and that it reminded him of speaking as a child.

 

[Elizabeth]

It explains what its about on this site
日本語資源 - Nihongoresources.com
under:
2.1.1.4. Negative perfect
Its not actually an abbreviation, and isn't a dialect. I think anyone can use it and its fairly common.

「ないで」より、「ずに」の方がちよっと堅い言い方だとおもいます。（硬い感じがします）。
日常会話では、あまり使われないでしょう。

 

[Kama]

There is no typo. The sentence is copy-paste from a japanese blog.

Thanks.


I have another question.

How to say: integration in Japanese? Both noun and adjective.

 

[KrazyKat]

The typo was probably in the blog itself.

What is the context for integration?

 

[Glenn]

The typo was probably in the blog itself.

I was going to say that that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't a typo. The henkan misses are the worst: if you aren't familiar with the word you could end up on a wild goose chase looking for something that doesn't exist.

How to say: integration in Japanese? Both noun and adjective.

It seems that for the general meaning either 合併 or 融合 are what you want. If you mean integration into a society, then it's 人種的無差別待遇 (じんるいてきむさべつたいぐう).

 

[Elizabeth]

I was going to say that that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't a typo. The henkan misses are the worst: if you aren't familiar with the word you could end up on a wild goose chase looking for something that doesn't exist. It seems that for the general meaning either 合併 or 融合 are what you want. If you mean integration into a society, then it's 人種的無差別待遇 (じんるいてきむさべつたいぐう).

I wouldn't say the absence of racial discrimination equates very well with integration into a society. One common way to put assimilation or literally "melting into" a place would be 社会に溶け込む。

 

[Kama]

It's like European integration etc. :

Thanks.

 

[Elizabeth]

it's like European integration etc.
Thanks.

Hi, Kama ! In the context of political integration in the EU (欧州連合), these are the terms you are looking for.

ヨーロッパ統合
ヨーロッパは１つの政府(憲法。。。)に統合された。

 

[Kama]

Thank you.

 

[Apple Bomb]

最近やっとパリも晴れ間が見えるようになってきて、少し気分も上がってきました。やっぱりヨーロッパの冬は暗くて寒い。。こっちの人が夏に長い休みを取る気持ちが凄く分かるようになりました。

In these sentences ようになる gets used twice and I'm not exactly sure how it's being used, though it seems very simple. If someone could explain why it's "wakaru youni narimashita" and not just "wakarimashita", for example, that would be great!

 

[Glenn]

ようになる has a meaning of "come to the point where..." So it's like "I came to the point where I could understand..." and "lately it's gotten to where I can see patches of blue skies in Paris, too (or even in Paris)..."

 

[Apple Bomb]

Thanks very much!