No worries, we all think poorly under stress.Your right! I just don't want to be told that my story isn't real. I'm trying to figure out how to take it down. Sorry. I'm not thinking straight.
Thank you for understanding. I'm going to stay in Katsushika in an Airbnb when I visit Japan to try and find her. It might seem a little drastic but I can't feel happy without her. Life is finite and I would regret it if I didn't try everything.No worries, we all think poorly under stress.
I live in Katsushika, but Mike is far better equipped linguistically and culturally to handle this problem for you than I am. If it comes to a point where he feels I could be useful in the area I'll be glad to help.
Hospital is a possibility. How about a lost or broken phone? You can't get to Line without your phone.She could be in hospital. My mum says that phones are prohibited in some parts of hospitals.
She might have fainted somewhere between her university and home. The last thing she told me was that she would call me at 5:30pm because that is when she would finish studying.
Can you think of any other explanations?
Hospital is a possibility. How about a lost or broken phone? You can't get to Line without your phone.
She bought a new iPhone was waiting at the post office last I heard. I've emailed her too.Hospital is a possibility. How about a lost or broken phone? You can't get to Line without your phone.
She bought a new iPhone was waiting at the post office last I heard. I've emailed her too.
There's a dial tone? I don't get a dial toneI tried calling again. Still just rings.
I tried with a colleges phone and it came up as engaged and no message. Her mother might be up to this. She might have blocked me or something. I don't think her mother wants us to be together, but I'm not sure about that. She's made it clear to my fiancé that she wants her to marry one of her or her husband's rich friend's sons. When she told her mother about me she was angry like my fiancé expected her to be. She said that's nice and he looks like your type, in what my fiancé says was a dismissive tone.I tried calling again. Still just rings.
I can't give up like that. I can support us both. We've discussed it. She's said she's ok with getting disinherited to marry me. But wishes that I can support her. Which if totally far and totally doable. She told me Tokyo University. She told me that she was so excited when she got accepted that she stayed awake for 2 days straight playing some video game she likes and finished it and was the first person to do so. She's very proud of that. She made something called a "key" for it, which is something that instructs other player as to how to play the game. She's mentioned Tokyo university a few time so I think that's the one.Are you sure she goes to "Tokyo University" and not "a university in Tokyo"? It seems every single time there's a mention of a Japanese woman going to college on this forum we are told it is "Tokyo University". It is practically a meme at this point. Anyway, today is Saturday and the school offices are almost certainly closed.
I'm getting regular ringing. There's just no one answering the phone.
Frankly, if the mother controls her life to this extent the smartest thing you could do is to lick your wounds, cry into a beer, and get on with your life. She'll be a constant wedge and will undercut you at every opportunity. The slow acid drip from in-laws has destroyed many international marriages in Japan.
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Now it doesn't even ring. Just gives the "We called but couldn't connect" message. Either I'm blocked too or maybe the battery is just dead.
I can support us both.
I'll call up a flower delivery service in Tokyo
I'm currently a bar tender. I get good pay especially working weekends and long nights. I have really good job security there. I still need to choose a degree to study at university but I will. I'm ambitious and so is she. We've talked about making a start up together. Nothing serious as of yet. Maybe something to do with her art or a Japanese style store in Australian, maybe a restaurant.Doing what?
1. You can do that online these days....
2. What problem is this going to solve?
I'll get them delivered to her address. If she's there and there's some reason she can't contact me otherwise at lease she will know that she's in my thoughts and that when I said that I would never leave her and that I will alway love her I meant it.You overlooked my question. What are the gifts intended to solve?
Your right. and she dropped her phone and smashed it recently. It still worked for calls and messages on LINE though. Maybe it's dead. She has the new iPhone waiting in the post office. My line ID name is unnecessarily stupid and my "display name" is different so she might have forgotten it. But it still lets me message and call her account and I still do all the time. I told promised her that I would never let her go and that I would always message and call.All LINE messages and contacts are lost when you change phones unless you use the LINE back-up option. It used to trip up a lot of people. It could be one reason she is not showing up in LINE.
She's definitely paying for the university. Her stepfather bought her the appartment and because she thinks she owns Ran she uses the appartment as she pleases without knocking. She's very controlling it's true. After coming back from there trip to Hong Kong to see that medial specialist about her disease, she decided to walk into Ran's appartment, throw her out of bed and told her to book them a hotel in Tottori for a "hot spring trip" (so she didn't have to go alone). Ran at this point was dibilitatingly tired and feeling weak. Her mother didn't care.If mom is blocking you and Ran hasn't sneaked past her to contact you against her mother's wishes....you're done and flowers aren't going to help.
This is a country where arranged marriages are by no means uncommon, where social status counts, and where no mother who got a daughter into the country's most prestigious university and who is almost certainly paying for it is going to let her daughter throw away a promising future career or a socially desirable marriage prospect in order to go be with some bartending cyber-boyfriend she's known for three months and has never even met. From the mother's perspective, whether you can support her is irrelevant and how much you love her is irrelevant. (Speaking as a parent of children the age of you two, I would view anyone in your circumstances with extreme suspicion. Such over-the-top declarations of profound love based on such short acquaintance and zero face-to-face contact would strike me as signs of immaturity, naivete, and mental instability. Talk of already being engaged to be married under the circumstances is beyond bizarre. Quite frankly, I would find you creepy. That Romeo and Juliet stuff works on the girls and may even work on the mothers where you're from, but not on the mothers here. This isn't a place where love conquers all, where the boy always gets the girl, or where love stories all have happy endings).
Mother has had 22 years to build a very real influence over her. You've had three months of being live-action, interactive, escapist fantasy like some kind of online romantic manga. You are much easier for her to walk away from than her mother is. If Mom is against you, your chances are poor at best.
I hope everything works out well for you both and I hope that the lack of contact is due to nothing more than some simple technical trouble with her recent iPhone change. But take my advice on this one thing: if you want to impress her mother, the Romeo route is not the way to do it. Tone down the professions of love, show up and meet the mother in person, and impress her with sincerity, maturity, and a plan for how you're going to lift yourself up to what she thinks the Tokyo University educated daughter of an attorney should be married to. You're going to have to rise to meet her standards; she isn't going to lower them to accommodate you or anyone else.
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I just tried her number again. Rings, no answer.
I think that you guys are really making sense on the topic. I haven't considered it very deeply because it sound so conspiratorial and strange to me. But it's starting become a more likely senerio in my mind that Ran's mother is keeping her from me.I was talking to a Japanese woman I know a while back and she has a 16-year-old daughter. She said that the father died when the daughter was 13. I said that life is very hard for kids when they lose a parent. The mother shrugged and said life is hard anyway.
Mothers here, especially of teenage/young adult daughters, strike me as very pragmatic. There is a very defined role and related responsibilities, one of which is to make sure their children follow the correct path.
I'd listen carefully to Mike if I were you.
The people her mother has me competing with are born wealthy. There her and her husbands rich friend's Sons. They're highly educated. She tried to have one of her rich friend's sons, a gay boy, stay in Ran's guestroom regardless of whether or not Ran gave permission (he spoke with Ran on LINE a bit, he seemed nice and wanted to stay in Tokyo to study at Tokyo University, but he was thinking MIT also, and because he likes Japanese video games and Japanese boys). Nothing happened with that though.If mom is blocking you and Ran hasn't sneaked past her to contact you against her mother's wishes....you're done and flowers aren't going to help.
This is a country where arranged marriages are by no means uncommon, where social status counts, and where no mother who got a daughter into the country's most prestigious university and who is almost certainly paying for it is going to let her daughter throw away a promising future career or a socially desirable marriage prospect in order to go be with some bartending cyber-boyfriend she's known for three months and has never even met. From the mother's perspective, whether you can support her is irrelevant and how much you love her is irrelevant. (Speaking as a parent of children the age of you two, I would view anyone in your circumstances with extreme suspicion. Such over-the-top declarations of profound love based on such short acquaintance and zero face-to-face contact would strike me as signs of immaturity, naivete, and mental instability. Talk of already being engaged to be married under the circumstances is beyond bizarre. Quite frankly, I would find you creepy. That Romeo and Juliet stuff works on the girls and may even work on the mothers where you're from, but not on the mothers here. This isn't a place where love conquers all, where the boy always gets the girl, or where love stories all have happy endings).
Mother has had 22 years to build a very real influence over her. You've had three months of being live-action, interactive, escapist fantasy like some kind of online romantic manga. You are much easier for her to walk away from than her mother is. If Mom is against you, your chances are poor at best.
I hope everything works out well for you both and I hope that the lack of contact is due to nothing more than some simple technical trouble with her recent iPhone change. But take my advice on this one thing: if you want to impress her mother, the Romeo route is not the way to do it. Tone down the professions of love, show up and meet the mother in person, and impress her with sincerity, maturity, and a plan for how you're going to lift yourself up to what she thinks the Tokyo University educated daughter of an attorney should be married to. You're going to have to rise to meet her standards; she isn't going to lower them to accommodate you or anyone else.
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I just tried her number again. Rings, no answer.
When my phone was out of commission I couldn't figure out a way to get line working on the PC and link it up to my existing account which is only linked to me via phone.You can access via PC.
The main question is how much control her mother has. Like you said, there's FB and other methods to get in touch and her mother can't lock her out of them completely. Especially if she is getting out of the house, going to school etc. Which leads me to believe she doesn't want to get in touch right now or there's a more benign or physical reason (like phone issue, accident, etc.).I think that you guys are really making sense on the topic. I haven't considered it very deeply because it sound so conspiratorial and strange to me. But it's starting become a more likely senerio in my mind that Ran's mother is keeping her from me.