Middle-aged men seek reconciliation with wives

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By KAORI SHOJI

Oh boy. It's happened at last: the junai (pure love) boom of last year that changed even the behavioral patterns of Sentagai no Jyoshikousei (the high school girls of Center-Gai, Shibuya) has reached the last and most difficult segment of the Japanese populace: the over-45 salaryman.

These were the people who had turned their noses at Fuyusona (the Korean love story, "Fuyu no Sonata"). They had snorted in contempt when their wives turned all starry-eyed at its star, Bae Yong Joon, and refused to listen when the conversation turned to household and family problems. On weekends, instead of spending time with their loved ones they had chosen to play golf with their nakama (buddies) or go out to nomikai (drinking parties) with the kaisha no onnanoko (girls from the office).

But now, the over-45 group are feeling hansei (regret) for their wayward behavior. It seems like they, too, want a slice of the junai pie and they're starting to realize that the place to look for it is right in the katei (home life).

According to a survey by a company called Senior Communication, more husbands have become interested in the issue of ningenkankei (human relationships) and ai (love) than their wives, and are subsequently more eager to repair the damage inflicted by years of bad marriage. But close to 30 percent of middle-aged wives say they've stopped expecting anything more from their menfolk than the monthly salary. At this point in their lives, moreover, they balk at the prospect of yarinaoshi (starting over) and the Herculean effort it entails.

According to my aunt, "Sono suji wa uso. Hotondo no onnaga so omotteiru hazuyo (that number is a lie. Most women must feel that way)." My aunt and uncle, both in their late 50s, have had separate bedrooms for the past 25 years. They're not exactly trading blows, but they can hardly be called the oshidori fufu (lovey-dovey couple)." In fact, it's hard to think of an instance when I've seen them in the same room at the same time.

"Otagai kansho shinainoga ichiban (it's best not to meddle in each other's affairs)" is my aunt's motto. She and her husband go on separate vacations, watch different programs on separate TVs and dine together only occasionally. My aunt says this is the only possible way to live with the same man for decades without "shouki wo ushinau (losing one's sanity)," and that the notion of junai between a married couple is a funpanmono (ridiculous notion).

Too cynical? Nah, it's the typical logic of the seasoned Japanese woman. They're too shrewd and too realistic to believe that love and marriage can occur simultaneously; they would rather just get through the toils of day-to-day kekkon seikatsu (married life) and pursue the junai fantasy through their DVDs.

The over-45 Japanese males, on the other hand, are a lot more romantic than they're given credit for. No longer young, and too shy or insecure to look for love elsewhere, they've begun to realize that their wives are really all they have.

The shukanshi (weekly news magazines) are full of articles with titles like: "Shokuba de Ikinokoru yorimo Kateide Ikinokoru Houga Taihen (Survival in the Home is Tougher Than Survival in the Workplace)" warning men that after risutora (corporate restructuring i.e. redundancy) or teinen (retirement), a wife is often a man's best and only friend. A woman can always start afresh but a man with no job and nowhere to go, can only chinbotsu suru (sink).

There are now support groups that coach these men on how to talk to their wives, express their emotions and rekindle the flame of love so that -- come retirement -- their wives won't suddenly walk out with their savings account and leave them to rot on the tatami mat.

Apparently the fear that such a thing could happen is so great it's affecting the sales volume of Tiffany's. "Saikin, chyunen no kappuru ga ooiyo (recently, I've noticed a lot of middle-aged couples)" says Ayako, a friend who works the counter. These couples are seen buying not-so-expensive pendants and plain but tasteful rings; the men almost always ask these to be gift-wrapped. And then blushingly, a little gruffly, they hand the boxes to their wives.

"Kokoro atatamaru koukei dayo (it's a heart-warming scene)" says Ayako. She and her colleagues have taken to calling these gifts "misutenaide purezento (don't-abandon-me presents).
Wow...it seems there still are people who don't act like the typical stereotype afterall ☝
The things marked in red got my attention, I don't know how it's possible to live with eachother, married without even bothering with eachother :? And the aidgroups...djeeses...it sounds like it's worse than drug/alcoholaddicts !! ☝


source: http://www.japantimes.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?ek20050512ks.htm
 
Nice Move !

Golden article, Rock Lee ! 👏
Where did you find this informative, humorous, and partially bilingual article where I can practice some Japanese as well ? Among others, I've found this part notably interesting.

More husbands have become interested in the issue of ningenkankei (human relationships) and ai (love) than their wives, and are subsequently more eager to repair the damage inflicted by years of bad marriage. But close to 30 percent of middle-aged wives say they've stopped expecting anything more from their menfolk than the monthly salary. At this point in their lives, moreover, they balk at the prospect of yarinaoshi (starting over) and the Herculean effort it entails.
Genuine remorse happens so rarely in life (does it ?) that when it does happen, I can only admire those people who were capable, honest, and brave enough to make that big jump. What interests me is this question: once the wife has moved from rosy expectation (wedding +_ months) to dissatisfaction (6 moths to 1 yr) to resistence (1 yr to 3 yrs) to depression (3 yrs to 6 yrs) to denial (6 yrs to 9 yrs) to finally arrive at acceptance (9 yrs to 10 yrs) and inner peace; after all that struggle, would not some wives resist the change, and get infinitely insulted and maddened by it ? Would not at least some wives seek revenge by flatly rejecting such an amorous maneuver ? :D
According to my aunt, "Sono suji wa uso. Hotondo no onnaga so omotteiru hazuyo (that number is a lie. Most women must feel that way)." My aunt and uncle, both in their late 50s, have had separate bedrooms for the past 25 years. They're not exactly trading blows, but they can hardly be called the oshidori fufu (lovey-dovey couple)." In fact, it's hard to think of an instance when I've seen them in the same room at the same time.
Contrary to popular belief of the West and US Amecian stereotypes, the partitioned marriage space has obvious benefits regardless of whether the couple is in love or not. In fact having independent space can be the flower bed of an infintely productive relationship for the couple as in any relationship IMO. Hence there is much real wisdom in such marriage setups many Japanese couple have been practicing.
"Otagai kansho shinainoga ichiban (it's best not to meddle in each other's affairs)" is my aunt's motto. She and her husband go on separate vacations, watch different programs on separate TVs and dine together only occasionally. My aunt says this is the only possible way to live with the same man for decades without "shouki wo ushinau (losing one's sanity)," and that the notion of junai between a married couple is a funpanmono (ridiculous notion).
I honestly believe there might be some resistence from the previously forlorn house wives for the sudden change. Yet for those strong, brave couples who manage to kindle the newly found love goes my bravo ! 😍 🌹 :romance: 👍
 
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JackInBox said:
How many marriages are like this. Is it half are love less.

I would say, based on my experience and the Japanese men I knew, it is way more than half. From the Japanese men I knew I would say 90% had no physical relations with their wife after children were born. It was like they were just going through the motions for the sake of the kids and the family as a whole. This didn't mean that they didn't love their wife. But to me it was a different kind of love. Not the romantic kind that those in the west or other countries are used to.

The remaining 10% were very much in love with their wives physically and romantically. It was really a rare and nice thing to see.
 
Pachipro said:
But to me it was a different kind of love. Not the romantic kind that those in the west or other countries are used to.

I agree.

I honestly believe that my husband believes that providing for us(and I mean money) is enough. It seems like showing affection no longer has a place in our marriage. Well, it's very scarce, I should say.

The Japanese, as a whole and as I see it, are so very complicated when it comes to these matters. Not only do they have this view that providing for the family materialistically is a sufficient amount of love, they also believe something like trust automatically comes with a relationship. No reassurance of love or trust should ever be needed. It is very, very irritating, if you ask me. Especially for a (somewhat) needy Westerner.
 
kirei_na_me said:
they also believe something like trust automatically comes with a relationship. No reassurance of love or trust should ever be needed. It is very, very irritating, if you ask me. Especially for a (somewhat) needy Westerner.

At last, someone put this into words for me. I have found this to be the case with a lot of the women i had dated, and it was a huge roadblock in the relationships.
 
cicatriz esp said:
At last, someone put this into words for me. I have found this to be the case with a lot of the women i had dated, and it was a huge roadblock in the relationships.
I'm sorry, I find your post ambiguous. Is it this part you're talking about (in which case would concern the Japanese women you dated)
they also believe something like trust automatically comes with a relationship. No reassurance of love or trust should ever be needed.

or this part ?(which would be Western women)
It is very, very irritating, if you ask me. Especially for a (somewhat) needy Westerner.
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The Japanese, as a whole and as I see it, are so very complicated when it comes to these matters. Not only do they have this view that providing for the family materialistically is a sufficient amount of love, they also believe something like trust automatically comes with a relationship. No reassurance of love or trust should ever be needed. It is very, very irritating, if you ask me. Especially for a (somewhat) needy Westerner.
When they feel comfortable enough to stop acting needy and talk to you on a human level is sufficient for me....the first time I ended a phone conversation with "I'm always happy to get to talk with you" he got so emotional I thought it was taken like a declaration of love. From that point on, I eased up on the rhetoric, except for "Ogenki" of course which seems to be enough.... :p
 
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