Malice Mizer

i listen to whatever sounds good to me at the moment like i said i had been listening to mizer for..quite a while before i actually saw a picture of them they are one of the main reasons i listen to j-rock ppls taste vary its only human one doesnt like what another does..'to each is his own' so to speak ..now..when it comes to american or english bands..im hella picky about it..but its rare for me to hear a j-rock band i dont like ..they are pretty good IMO unlike bands that you find here i.e crappy *** linkin park and such
 
Odd, I like Linkin Park.
Linkin Park aside, I find it strange when someone says that. Why? Is it because they're Japanese? Or because you can't actually understand all that they sing so the lyrics don't seem so bad? If it's Visual Kei, which seems to mostly be the case here, is it because of their looks more so then their music? X-Japan-FanGrl, you're not the only one I'm addressing here. I dun mean to have a go at anyone, I'm just curious.
I dun particulary like 'English' pop, nor do I particulary like Japanese pop.
The other thing is, if one can get into the Japanese independent scene, try looking at the American, Australian, British, Kiwi, Canadian, etc, independent scene. You may be pleasently surprised.
I actually don't think they would all be better either. If you think about it, with 'English' music there are more countries and more people, where as with the Japanese industry, it's more restricted so the standard can be lowered a little. Not saying there aren't some excellent bands/artists in Japan! Not in the least.
Oh wells, there ends my little rant for today.
 
Originally posted by Lo~ki
Odd, I like Linkin Park.
Linkin Park aside, I find it strange when someone says that. Why? Is it because they're Japanese? Or because you can't actually understand all that they sing so the lyrics don't seem so bad? If it's Visual Kei, which seems to mostly be the case here, is it because of their looks more so then their music? X-Japan-FanGrl, you're not the only one I'm addressing here. I dun mean to have a go at anyone, I'm just curious.
I dun particulary like 'English' pop, nor do I particulary like Japanese pop.
The other thing is, if one can get into the Japanese independent scene, try looking at the American, Australian, British, Kiwi, Canadian, etc, independent scene. You may be pleasently surprised.
I actually don't think they would all be better either. If you think about it, with 'English' music there are more countries and more people, where as with the Japanese industry, it's more restricted so the standard can be lowered a little. Not saying there aren't some excellent bands/artists in Japan! Not in the least.
Oh wells, there ends my little rant for today.
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Loki, you really speak to me.

I think a lot of people are biased to jrock, BECAUSE they are japanese. Same reason why people are biased to western music.

And I dont have any more thoughts to add, as you, Loki, stated them pretty well.

And speaking of Linkin Park, while I hate their music, they are incredibly fun to see live.
 
no i like the japanese sound some japanese bands i dont really care for and could live without ..glay for example i only like..about 2 of their songs alot of english bands suck where as like i said its rare i find a j-rock/pop band that i have heard of ...i dont like..the lyrics..and the beat ..are to my liking...for the most part..some just make no sense but have a catchy tune after you hear it so much

im just more into the japanese music than american ..so what?

japanese pop well alot of it..like gackt and hyde sound nothing like bsb and nsync..to me..thats 2 diff geners completely...i also enjoy some russian pop and rock as well as german..where as i dont american..so no its not because they r japanese i like them..its because they dont suck

ack its 1 am and that most lieklly made no sense o well


in summary i just like alot of foreign bands:o
 
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X-Japan-Fangrl, there is a ton of north american music that doesnt suck. Maybe your problem is confining yourself to see only mainstream north american music.
 
Evening All. New to this forum...so just making myself known. Malice Mizer...are in my opinion...pure quality, it depends on my mood as to what era I prefer, but normally the darker Klaha stuff is more to my liking.

On that note...I have yet to get Bara No Seidou as it costs SO much to get cd's imported all the way to naff little Northern Ireland over here.

The last song on the album 'Saikai no chi to bara' which I take to mean 'Goodbye Blood and Rose' even though...with my limited ability to translate...the word meaning 'goodbye' in fact means something like 'reunion'...and I am confused by that.

Secondly...about this song...I can find no lyrics for it anywhere, romanised or english and I was wondering if those of you have heard this song, is it an instrumental? Because I did not believe it was as it has been released as a single.

But I do not know. Can anyone help me out here?

I would be very grateful...🙂
 
X-Japan-FanGrl: Fair enough ^^ It is different and that I suppose is what's nice. I dun like forcing my opinions on anyone and happy to stand corrected. So yay.

Metatron_Mana: Hullo! Yay! You generally prefer the darker works too!
About 'Saikai no chi to bara', there are no lyrics. It's an instrumental song released in memory of Kami. The aim was to only involve Mana, Kozi, and Yuki as the remaining members, so pre-Klaha, and of course, post-Gackt. Therefore, there's no vocalist.
My friend bought Bara no Seidou while in Japan. It's quite a good CD, but yes, shipping costs are expensive >.<
 
There are loose phrases whispered in the song, which luckily are in the booklet (because it's very hard to hear what is said). Here they are:

sang
rose
revoir
sans faute
la vue se dﾃｩgage
noeuds solides de l'amour
porter sa croix
un moment
liens de sang
fatalitﾃｩ
ﾃｩternellement
tomber sur
en espﾃｩrant se revoir
 
To Lo~ki and Twisted...thanks alot for that. Can't wait to hear it now, actually can't wait to hear all of Bara no Seidou...and I was talkin to my parentals last night, and they said they're gonna import it for me for christmas!! woohoo!! :D
 
Winter:

i know there are north american bands that do not suck and i like a few ..but not alot i dont know why really most of them just arent my taste
 
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Malice Mizer is perfection! I used to love a band called Luna Sea until I stumbled across these guys though. I've heard that the name of Malice Mizer is really supposed to be Malicious Misery, is there any truth to this rumor? I've always wondered but never had a chance to ask! ^.^
I think my favorite group member is Kami, he has these beautiful smiling eyes! ;)
My favorite song is Le Ciel, the lyrics to they're songs are absolutely amazing, stunning! Musicians in America aren't that creative or sincere! Such a pitty! :eek:
(BTW Gackt is spiffy too)
The picture attached is the merveilles Kami!
 
BTW

Did anyone know that Gackt studied and is quite fluent in French, (of course you all knew!!) this being why most of the songs have something French about them...i'm not quite sure what the deal is with him leaving and the whole thing continuing with the language thing...yup. I wonder what Klaha knows o.O (he's so purty)
The attached file (gackt) kinda' reminds me of The Crow...👍
 
According to his bip, Klaha knows some English aside from Japanese.
And yes, Malice Mizer does mean that.
 
Does it now? How nifty!
I also heard that Gackt, though he speaks French quite fluently doesn't speak a word of English. For some reason I find that really interesting. French is much more fun to speak than English anyways 👍
 
Me being the n00bie here I usually get the facts before jumping into a liking or disliking of something or someone type of convorsation...and I wanted to say that Malice Mizer is a fav of mine....this is the history od MM I thought I'd throw it into this post because I noticed that someone spoke of MM's music and only spoke of Gackt's and Klaha's vocal days in MM....when infact Gackt was not their first vocalist....and you must remember the vocalist (although covered with the most credit alot of the time) is not the only person in a band...unlike pop stars like Britney who have music composed for their songs....so meh here is a brief history of Malice Mizer....

Malice Mizer was formed in 1992 by Mana and Kozi after the breakup of a band they were in. "Malice Mizer" stands for Malicious Misery (thus Mizer should be pronounced Mee-ser, not Mai-ser), which Mana defines as human nature. The third member of Mizer, Yu~ki, was recruited after Mana saw the final performance of his former band. Mana asked Yu~ki to join Malice Mizer, and he agreed. The band's former drummer, Gaz, left the band after barely 6 months, and Kami was recruited as their new permanent drummer. Tetsu, the band's first vocalist, left the band in 1993 over arguments about the band's direction. It took nearly a year for the band to find their next vocalist, Gackt. He didn't actually audition, but went to karaoke with Mana and Kami. In 1997, Malice Mizer moved from their indies record label(Midi:Nette) to a major label(Nippon Columbia). Gackt left the band in 1999 to persue a solo career. Soon after Gackt's departure, the drummer Kami unexpectedly died of a subanachroid hemmorage. The band never hired a replacement drummer, instead having temporary ones. In 2000, Klaha became the vocalist. In 2001, the band unfortunatly dissolved. Klaha, Kozi, and Mana have all persued other musical careers. The best of luck to them.

I hope you enjoyed this and Kami *~ Rest In Peace ~*
 
yay! I love Malice Mizer. The music is really great. Although I love pretty boys, it's really the music that attracts me. I used to have some of the Malice Mizer history burned into my brain, but it's been awhile since I've looked at any of it. Who has the time? Besides....the whole pretty boy thing gets me in trouble with my mom anyhow. I love Mana and Kami is my favorite. I have a pic of mana on my locker. I keep meaning to put one of kami on there. ::yawns:: I should really work on my project. bye!
 
I noticed that most J-rock bands are made up of beautiful boys who dress as even more beautiful women, and I used to wonder why.
I recently stumbled across a sort of explanation for this.
In ancient Japan there was a man who fell in love with a beautiful Geisha. When he confessed his feeling to this stunning woman he was shocked to find that she was really a man, but he found that he was still in love with him in the end, thus the lived happily ever after (I skipped a lot) Anyways, the original Geisha WERE in fact men, but women, obviously proved to be much more popular and so today the word geisha reminds us of beautiful, intelligent, talented and refined young women who served the rich patrons of many a tea house. I really wonder what male geisha were like ^.^ (bear in mind they didn't dress as women in the beginning) There's a lot of history and tradition connected to these bands, which is absolutely spiffy and I MUST learn more!



Interesting bits of trivia coming to you from Onigiri central! :p
 
Originally posted by Onigiri Chan
I noticed that most J-rock bands are made up of beautiful boys who dress as even more beautiful women, and I used to wonder why.
I recently stumbled across a sort of explanation for this.
In ancient Japan there was a man who fell in love with a beautiful Geisha. When he confessed his feeling to this stunning woman he was shocked to find that she was really a man, but he found that he was still in love with him in the end, thus the lived happily ever after (I skipped a lot) Anyways, the original Geisha WERE in fact men, but women, obviously proved to be much more popular and so today the word geisha reminds us of beautiful, intelligent, talented and refined young women who served the rich patrons of many a tea house. I really wonder what male geisha were like ^.^ (bear in mind they didn't dress as women in the beginning) There's a lot of history and tradition connected to these bands, which is absolutely spiffy and I MUST learn more!



Interesting bits of trivia coming to you from Onigiri central! :p
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Now that is interesting.

I have to say thanks for the insight on this.
 
There's also therories about young samurai , young boys of the period, onnagata and kabuki theatre.

Ok, a couple of odd questions.
Can anyone tell me the offical spelling of Colour Me Blood Red? I naturally spell 'colour' with a 'u' because that is how it is spelt here and it is the English spelling as well. I have seen it spelt both ways on the net, I'm wondering if anyone actually has a copy of the CD on which it features (i believe it appears on the Bel Air single) and could tell me.
The other question I have was, if I were to take a photo of Mana and have it printed onto a T-shirt, would this infringe copyright? Obviously, I did not take the photo.
 
As long as you're not selling the shirt you've made then it's perfectly legal to my knowledge. (i've done it millions of times and I searched beforehand and found nothing, so it shouldn't be illegal o.O)
Sorry I don't have any help with Colour me blood red, ima go listen to the song now though ^.^
 
MM is a great band. The lolita is really attracting, but so is their music...
even though,they're quite mellow.

I agree LeCiel is a great song... (it's very gackt o_@), and illuminati is wacky
 

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