last ninja?

[potatoe]

i was doing some research the other day and came across the last surviving Ninja , his name is master ushiro he currently lives in China,
not much is known but he is the last ninja in the world.

i just thought people would like to know this.

 

[Mike Cash]

Is he any kin to the last surviving Samurai ? You know, that white guy in England.

 

[potatoe]

no i dont think so, ☝

 

[Ewok85]

Doesnt this contradict with your earlier 'ninpo is still alive' thread?

 

[potatoe]

Doesnt this contradict with your earlier 'ninpo is still alive' thread?

i haven't posted with the ninpo section check your facts

 

[King of Tokyo]

Doesnt this contradict with your earlier 'ninpo is still alive' thread?

Actually he is correct, he did not make that thread. It was his partner in posting - HITMAN-X/Bounty Hunter/GHOSTFACE KILLA.

 

[Timsan]

there is a guy in japan that teaches ninjitsu to a select few, ihave some book of his dont want to looks his name up

 

[shiningblue]

yah there are a lot of people claiming to be the "last ninja/samurai" and want to give lessons to people who are confused enough to think they are the real thing

however, there are a few people out there who are really trying to keep ninpo/ninjutsu/kenjutsu etc. alive out there. they have been taught by those who have lineages back to the time of ninja and samurai, but as for the last samurai or ninja you would have to look back to 1876 when the samurai class was abolished and back to about the 1660's when Ieyasu outlawed ninjas (even though they existed for a time frame longer than that)

 

[potatoe]

Actually he is correct, he did not make that thread. It was his partner in posting - HITMAN-X/Bounty Hunter/GHOSTFACE KILLA.

thankyou king of tokyo, but i wouldn't say partner in posting, we are friends outside the forum, when it comes to the forum its our own varied opinions,
but hey thanks for clearing that for me.

 

[babar-san]

ahh, all this "the last ninja" stuff is not true. ninjutsu,ninpo,kenjutsu,taijutsu, are still very much alive in japan. albeit the employment and purpose of these art forms are not needed in their traditional manner, the "art" form itself is still taught, not by just one school either. tugakure ryu ninjutsu, koga ryu ninjutsu, and fuma ryu ninjutsu still have schools in japan.

here is an excerpt from quest, regarding dr. masaaki hatsumi:> 34th soke of togakure ryu ninpo, whitch is still taught at the iga temple grounds today.>
After Takamatsu died, Hatsumi added Oh to his name. He took that word from Takamtsu's name. That made him Byakuryuoh, honorable white dragon. Until today he changed his warrior name a few more times, and is today known by his Bugo Hisamune (eternal seeker). Among other things, he also changed his name from Yoshiaki into Masaaki. That is a usual thing among martial art masters. Right before he died, Takamatsu Sensei passed tradition, way of life and direct inheritance of nine warrior traditions, which he taught, to Hatsumi. Masaaki Hatsumi became: 34th. Soke of Togakure ryu Ninpo 28th. Soke of Gyokko ryu Koshijutsu 28th. Soke of Kukishinden ryu Happo Hiken 26th. Soke of Shinden Fudo ryu Dakentaijutsu 21st. Soke of Gyokushin ryu Ninpo 18th. Soke of Koto ryu Koppojutsu 17th. Soke of Takagi Yoshin ryu Jutaijutsu 15th. Soke of Gikan ryu Koppojutsu 14th. Soke of Kumogakure ryu Ninpo and the only true Ninja of our time. At that time Hatsumi didn't feel capable enough, to show himself as Soke (grandmaster, direct successor) in public. Therefore he remained isolated with his students from inquisitive eyes. Even his neighbors didn't know, that he was successor of so old traditions.

and to beat all, you can still contact him through the bujinkan dojo and sign up classes are available to all nationalities. the bujinkan is international, but is located of course, in japan here is the contact info> Bujinkan Dojo - Soke Masaaki Hatsumi

Stephen K. Hayes, one of masaaki's prodigy students, started studying with hatsumi in the 60's, and now teaches here in the states. he is so reveared, that hatsumi has often made remarks as to whether or not he will pass his title of soke down to hayes himself. making hayes the first western soke of a traditional ninpo style. togakure ryu ninjutsu. stephen k. hayes' school is located in Dayton ohio, usa.

 

[digicross]

Ninja exist in many forms.

...one of them is a C.I.A. agent.

There always the need for a spy/executioner.



As for Ninja as in a person who done many stealth tactics done in ancient Japan.

I'm sure that there are plenty of them, only you didn't see them. Hey, Ninja is a 'stealth man' literaly.

It should be noted that many of the ninja arts that are teached to the public probably are obsolote techniques or techniques that are so basic.

 

[Spaceghost]

I just watched a tv programme and Dr. Hatsumi was featured and show off some of his tricks.

He was throwing cards and power and people's faces and then doing techniques to them. Seems a bit crap compared to the other martial arts shown. Okinawan Karate seems pretty deadly.

 

[dark_secrester]

That is a though, even though Ninja were outlawed many many years before the samurai were, how come in the Last Samurai contained Ninja?

 

[Ewok85]

That is a though, even though Ninja were outlawed many many years before the samurai were, how come in the Last Samurai contained Ninja?

Because its a movie, and one that was not historically accurate?

By the end of the Edo period Samurai were, on the whole, no longer warriors, they were bureaucrats and politicians who carried swords as a symbol of their power and status.

 

[Mike Cash]

By the end of the Edo period Samurai were, on the whole, no longer warriors, they were bureaucrats and politicians who carried swords as a symbol of their power and status.

I used to hear that the salarymen are the modern samurai, going off to do battle armed with a briefcase.

Now, something we never ever ever stop to think about is that the samurai had homes to go to and, in peaceful times, got up and did the equivalent of going to the "office" every day.

No matter how the times may change, the basic nature of our human existence and interactions really don't change all that much. Our ancestors dealt with many of the same things we deal with, as will our descendants. That being the case, when I think of the modern salaryman and his "badge of office" (briefcase) I can't help but believe that at least once during the history of the samurai there must have been played out a scene where a samurai is walking down the road on his daily commute and his wife coming behind him at a dead run frantically calling out, "Honey! You forgot your swords!!!!!"

 

[Spelling Bee]

i love ninja!

very cute in trying hard for battle.
mike, you are indeed modern ninja!

 

[Turkuz]

i dont know last ninja but i was watch the ninja turtles on tv long time ago

 

[kidtokyo]

During my trip to Tokyo last week, I enrolled in a 'Ninja Experience' where I got a few hours of training from a skilled martial artist. It was pretty cool. Got to use some weapons and stuff.

The idea that there is 'one surviving Ninja' seems kinda silly, like the plot of a movie.

 

[Ewok85]

I used to hear that the salarymen are the modern samurai, going off to do battle armed with a briefcase.

Now, something we never ever ever stop to think about is that the samurai had homes to go to and, in peaceful times, got up and did the equivalent of going to the "office" every day.

If you take some time and go through the history of the Edo and Meiji periods (the "end" of the samurai) you'll notice there was very little fighting, and they had to be doing something. In the rigid social structure that existed of the day the Samurai filled the role of buearcrats and politicians like we have today.

 

[Mike Cash]

Very true and good points, Ewok.

Something else that tickles the hell out of me is the foreigners who are enamored of the "ronin" because they were "masterless" samurai. They seem to think that "masterless" meant they were somehow superior. What it actually meant was that they were unemployed.

 

[fruitoil]

Is he any kin to the last surviving Samurai? You know, that white guy in England.

Tom Cruise, right?

 

[GodEmperorLeto]

Something else that tickles the hell out of me is the foreigners who are enamored of the "ronin" because they were "masterless" samurai. They seem to think that "masterless" meant they were somehow superior. What it actually meant was that they were unemployed.

Huh?

I always had the impression that it was not good to be ronin, and that you could get mercenary work, but it was always hard to become a formal samurai for a daimyo because of the lack of trust that being a ronin engendered.

I have never met somebody who thought the life of a ronin was preferable. Romantic, perhaps, by a stretch, maybe. But certainly not the ideal.

 

[Mike Cash]

Huh?
I always had the impression that it was not good to be ronin, and that you could get mercenary work, but it was always hard to become a formal samurai for a daimyo because of the lack of trust that being a ronin engendered.
I have never met somebody who thought the life of a ronin was preferable. Romantic, perhaps, by a stretch, maybe. But certainly not the ideal.

Then quite obviously you are not one of the people I was talking about. You're informed.