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Have to warn you. If you're here to stir up trouble, you'll be gone sooner than later.ryazanov said:we do not care abt yr money,we do not want yr regrets,what we need is a war,we will not care abt u and yr helpers
Hi, Eisuke, I'm new to the thread.Eisuke said:"We eagerly look forward, therefore, to the emergence of a self-possessed Japan, insistent upon its policy-making autonomy and its equal stake in the maintenance of peace and security of all parties in the region."
This is just a matter of time before Japan is a normal country once again.
Hey, good to bump into you here, Hiroshi-san!Hiroshi66 said:Nice to see you here, lexico-san.
scotsboyuk said:@Hiroshi66
If China invaded Japan I think the U.S. would do more than 'help'. Any military aggression againts Japan by China would no doubt be in the context of a wider conflict involving Taiwan and/or North Korea too. The U.S., and likely NATO forces, would become involved in the war, the result, of which would almost certainly involve the defeat of China and/or North Korea, but with the possibility of massive human and material damage, not to mention the likely use of WMD.
Shooter452 said:China invade Japan? Never happen. The US Seventh Fleet is there just to prevent such an action, and Beijing knows it. It is also the Seventh Fleet that keeps any real threat against Taiwan from happening.
Despite any increase of naval forces that the PRC has managed in the last fifty years, they cannot oppose US sea power in open water, and they know it. The very best that the PRC can accomplish is the utter destruction of its naval forces and much more ashore if they send up the balloon. They have war gamed it several times (so have we) and when they are not in their "self-deception mode" they lose everytime, and they lose BIG!
They may maul a carrier task group or two, but once the advantage of surprise is gone, they lose everything that floats, flies, or crawls along the ground. While their manpower losses are replaceable, their material losses are not.
This is without a single US land warfare element getting involved nor a single nuclear weapon being deployed.
Age. Fac ut gaudeam!
Do you know what amazes me?thomas said:Interesting Taiwanese editorial calling Japan's position of submissiveness in relation to China humiliating. A voice that should be heard.
Self-possessed Japan needed
=> http://www.etaiwannews.com/Editorial/2002/09/25/1032916175.htm
PatrioticChineseguy said:"This is without a single US land warfare element getting involved nor a single nuclear weapon being deployed."
I think you are absolutely prejudging this event because I believe there are many great chinese that will defend or fight for their country no matter what the odd is against them. I will rather die then surrender to a foreign occupation. Yes, I'm a patriotic chinese guy who believe that every chinese people are born with the obligation to defend their country. Perhaps, I'm as ignorant as the most racists group. I believe as a chinese, I have the duty to fulfill is to protect my country from foreign occupation. Yes, I'm living and an American citizen.
Hiroshi66 said:Esentially - why would China invade Japan? I see obviously why they would invade the Republic or the North Korean dictatorship - but what reason do they have for South Korea and Japan? Would the international community stand by after seeing the PLA step one foot south of the 38th parallel into South Korea - especially if they can reach Seoul in a day or less!? Same with Japan.
Hiroshi66 said:So desu. The PLA wouldn't be able to take Japan, IMO. Never underestimate the SDF.. never. Same with Taiwan's armed forces.
Hiroshi66 said:The fact of the matter is that a Chinese invasion of the Republic and/or a North Korean invasion of the south is much more realistic than a PLA invasion of Japan.