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Maybe not.

Was watching the protests outside the Republican convention. I couldnt tell exactly, but I think they were protesting Bush himself.

Letting the world know that not all Americans believe in Bush....You know what is odd? I thought the world already knew.

It seems people underestimate the foresight of the world. They seem to presume that other peoples think American politics is synonymous with American citizens. The opening ceremonies of the Olympics told me, at least, that this isnt the case.

Remember the standing ovation American atheletes got? It seemed like it was an obvious sign that they accept us as citizens. As people. If memory serves me well, I think Greece was one of the many countries that doesnt agree with American politics. Yet they were able to applaud us with such enthusiasm. Seemed to me that they could tell the difference between decent folk, and dirty politicians.

So if the protestors cause is to inform the world that we as people dont agree, and the world already knows, then what point is there? Just by watching, I got to thinking a lot of things.

Where are their jobs? Are they working? So many people seem to be unemployed.

Where are their clothes? Do they have them? So many people seem to be lacking money for clothing.

Where is their mic and spokesperson? So many people seem to lack leadership and aim.

I remember back when protests werent just protests, but rallies. Rally for a cause. And the rally often had a leader. A spokesperson. Someone, a single voice, to speak for the people to the oppressor.

Nowadays, it seems to be just a shanty of jobless, cloth-less people who seem to enjoy partying too much.

None of them like Bush. Okay. How many like Kerry? With all the hatred to Bush I saw, I didnt see any pro-Kerry types. It seems they are just hating to hate.

I thought for a second. Instead of causing such a needless fuss at the Republican con, why not organise a pro-Kerry rally, rather than protest, to push up the opposition at the Democratic convention?

It reminds me of the mindset of complaining without correcting.

People will be all for hating a person, hating a reason, hating a cause, but neglect to supply a counter-solution. "I hate Bush! I hate Bush!"

Okay...who do you like?

So much energy focused on what we dont like, and not enough focused on what we do. Instead of damning anyone, why not promote what it is we want/need as a people. And if you have to damn someone, then doesnt it make sense to give solutions, and counter-actions?

I should really stop watching this stuff.
 
Agreed. People bash bush just because everyone else is and they think it's cool.. It's more of a trend now. But you can't deny the guy is an idiot... Don't get me wrong, Kerry is an idiot too. And since I'm not american I'm just going to slide out of this topic now..
*Slides out of topic*
 
Signing Gorilla !!!

I always thought KOKO , the gorilla that knows sign language was much smarter than most political candidates. Make a good President!

Frank

😊
 
Frank D. White said:
I always thought KOKO , the gorilla that knows sign language was much smarter than most political candidates. Make a good President!
Well, he certainly couldn't be any worse than Bush... Bush is just some monkey they kidnapped from the bush (hence the name) and altrered chirurgically to look human. However, there still is a great similarity, as you can see in the pics below:
bush_monkey-1.webp
 
King of Tokyo said:
Agreed. People bash bush just because everyone else is and they think it's cool.. It's more of a trend now. But you can't deny the guy is an idiot... Don't get me wrong, Kerry is an idiot too. And since I'm not american I'm just going to slide out of this topic now..
*Slides out of topic*

Are you sure you're not confusing a lack of slick glibness with idiocy?
 
Letting the world know that not all Americans believe in Bush....You know what is odd? I thought the world already knew.
NOT NECESSARILY TRUE.

I only say this because I've spent so much damn time trying to convince people outside of the United States that we're NOT all gun-toting, Bush-Loving warmongers. Case in point: Last week my supervisor saw Fahrenheit 9/11. Until then, he no idea that Americans even protested Bush's inauguration. While that movie might be bad example, it's not limited to that sort of thing. Friends I have from Hague, Bangkok, Mongolia, and even Australia haven't believed me when I've talked about all the opposition in America to it's own friggin' government. It just drives me nuts that I get painted as an ignorant imperialist by people who judge me soley by the fact that I'm American.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Then again, it could just be the people I'm meeting.
 
King of Tokyo said:
Pretty Sure.. Heh.

Some examples of "idiocy", please? (And not just examples of acts/policies you personally disagree with here, I'm looking for genuine "idiocy", since this is so often attributed to him).
 
mikecash said:
Some examples of "idiocy", please? (And not just examples of acts/policies you personally disagree with here, I'm looking for genuine "idiocy", since this is so often attributed to him).

I'm not the type of person to be bashing bush. You're going to need to find someone who is a professional, and is an american. I'm not going to try debating you about it, because you'll never stop until I'm all the sudden a hardened republican... Heh. I have seen him do some stupid things.. But I'm going to choose my battles here.. Heh.
 
mikecash said:
Some examples of "idiocy", please? (And not just examples of acts/policies you personally disagree with here, I'm looking for genuine "idiocy", since this is so often attributed to him).

umm, i think I've got one: you know, that when you want to spend money, you generally have to have money to spend... the common 5 year old gets this point.
buut, Bush and co. decided that cutting taxes by 1.8 trillion in a decade, and massively increasing spending, on pretty much everything, will somehow work out...
 
Since the end of WW2, the United States has had a balanced budget only 3 times. That the US continues to function just fine with deficit spending is a pretty well established fact and if it is "idiocy" then GW Bush certainly hasn't had a monopoly on it.

Another name for "cutting taxes" might be something like "not confiscating people's money in the first place". Clinton's massive "surplus" never existed as dollars in the federal coffers anyway, it was a projected surplus.
 
mikecash said:
Another name for "cutting taxes" might be something like "not confiscating people's money in the first place".

hey, i'm all in favour of small government... but Bush made his much larger... without funding.

(the fact that there has been more than 1 idiot in the white house doesn't mean he isn't one too.)
 
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