seasurfer said:
Of course, there is something as right and wrong. Go and sit the mandarin test, and write that pronunciation other than sha1, see if the examiner mark you right or wrong?
Being a native speaker doesn't mean that he is always right in using the language. There is always a set of rules for any language in the world. There is always a set of rule that you need to follow if you want to speak it correctly. Being a native speaker doesn't mean that he no need to follow the rule. Likewise, being a native speaker doesn't mean that he is always right in the way he speaks. A non-native speaker can speak better than him too. Have you ever heard a westerner or an Indian speaking fluent mandarin and reading archaic Chinese? This is something that a lot of native mandarin speaker can't do it. It has nothing to do with race or anything. It is just how well you know the language. I believe in this forum. You can find non-native Japanese speakers who can speak and write better Japanese than the native Japanese speaker.
By the way, do you know that a lot of Englishmen and American men don't speak proper English...not only they don't speak the proper language, but they also simply suck at it as well....and a lot of non-native speaker like you can speak so much better than them! So, in an English test, will you follow the improper way that those Englishmen use, or will you stick to the grammatically correct English?
Being a native speaker doesn't entitle than person to be perfect in that language.
In the sense of contemporary Mandarin, sha1 is the only correct pronouns for that character.
This doesn't mean pronouns in dialects are wrong just because they are diff from Mandarin.
Is Cantonese wrong? is Hokkien wrong?
Being a native speaker, he does not necessarily speak the best of the language officially accepted by his country. Still, he is never wrong in speaking the language in his own fashion.
When people are not speaking in Mandarin,
we just cannot judge him as right or wrong, still using Mandarin as the standard.
ppl speaking English have diff accents,
the difference doesn't mean any of them is wrong.
Even in the case of taking English as a second language,
where the standard is set,
failures of meeting the standard are not considered to be 'wrong' but 'improper'.
So we say Indians/Singaporeans speak improper English rather than wrong English.
this is due to the arbitrary nature of the standard.
language is part of a culture,
culture is a human practice,
ppl have their own ways of doing things,
I don't say u r wrong just because u walk a different path,
the same goes we don't say a particular language is wrong just because it is diff from others,
that's their way of speaking,
treat it equal wif others by all means.