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Roppongi is poison, man....
 
CC1 said:
She works in Roppongi? No wonder she knows so many Americans! Watch out man.

Aha ... The truth always gets revealed near the end of every story,no wonder so much sex.:LOL:
 
you guys think so lowly. She started off work in Yokohama and when she got promotion they moved her to roppongi to manage store. I know for a fact how many partners she has had and ive been the only 1 sense ive meet her.
 
Carlson said:
We are going to meet sat night in Roppongi where she works.
Uh oh! :unsure:
That is not a good sign man. That says a lot! EVen if she works in managing a store, it is not just what kind of work she does, but the whole environment of Roppongi! It is basically a free-for-all for people "on the prowl" or not even "on the prowl". You have to be very strong and very disciplined to resist all the temptation in that arena of sex, lust and almost anything goes, that is if you want to resist it, which she probably does not.
I saw the picture and I thank you for being so open here and pouring your heart out. She is cute indeed. But what is on the outside counts for so little as opposed to what is on the inside.
You are living in the past man. I know! Been there done that!
"Why can't it be like it used to be?"
"Oh, but the sex makes it all worthwhile" (notice I did NOT say "love-making", which is really a different thing entirely).
"She'll change. It is just a phase."
"Maybe she is having her period?"
"She is just in one of her moods. It'll pass."
"She'll come back when she gets all that out of her system."
"Maybe I should try to please her harder."
"I'll give it just a little more time."
Sound familiar? ☝ I thought so.
I know man. Been there. Done that. And more than once! :banghead:
Time to move on. Let her go. Ja mata.
Correction: Not "ja mata", but sayonara! :wavey:
Not making light of it in any way. We are in your corner. :beer1:
 
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well i thought it best we didnt see each other tonight beacuse i would be getting off work going out to roppongi or wherever we would go after. and then working the next morning. instead i told her i would wait for her to get off work and call or we could chat on msn. She wants to come over Monday to talk and watch a movie. (For over a year we would take turns buying a movie and watch it. her turn, my turn, etc) I bought a movie i know she wants to see and also got a card. I am trying to figure out what i want to write down. I will wait things out for a little while longer to give her the time she needs. If it does not work out atleast i will know i tryed everything in my power to try. I will always love her but im not sure that we can share the same type of love for each other that we once did. Now that this has happend. In the end if friends is all we are, im still coming out ahead.
 
Carlson said:
well i thought it best we didnt see each other tonight beacuse i would be getting off work going out to roppongi or wherever we would go after. and then working the next morning. instead i told her i would wait for her to get off work and call or we could chat on msn. She wants to come over Monday to talk and watch a movie. (For over a year we would take turns buying a movie and watch it. her turn, my turn, etc) I bought a movie i know she wants to see and also got a card. I am trying to figure out what i want to write down. I will wait things out for a little while longer to give her the time she needs. If it does not work out atleast i will know i tryed everything in my power to try. I will always love her but im not sure that we can share the same type of love for each other that we once did. Now that this has happend. In the end if friends is all we are, im still coming out ahead.

Reminds me of my second gf actually. I havn't read everything actually, but if she's commin' out and saying that this guy is something that you're not, it would be a good time to ask exactly what... I don't know females that well, i'm only 16, but over time i realized that it's usually a hint you're not spending enough time with her... Maybe she had a vision of you that never came true. Maybe she dosn't want to just take a vacation to hawaii. Maybe she wants to do things with you or to have you just plain do more things. Like sports or something... Maybe she wants you to take her to a movie instead of buying one. Sometimes females also are saying it means you are weak (maybe scared of too much, or maybe just don't tell her what to do enough)... Now females expect you to know exactly what they mean, even though you don't. The best thing you can do... Is guess... The real question is if she really is intrested in some one else... if she is, then just give up... Don't put it past her to make up some one though to scare you... I havn't read everything though, so i really don't know the situation well. If they're honestly intrested in some one else, it's already too late. If the other guy is made up just to scare you into doing what she wants, it could really hurt her.
 
Pachipro said:
WARNING SIGNS
If she doesn't perform oral, dump her. If she's not willing to do something so simple to please you, she'll never be there when the going get tough

If she has no career ambitions - dump her. She's just looking to get married and have someone else pay her bills, student loans and support her.

If she doesn't like your best friend - dump her. She'll want him gone after you are married

If she tries to stop you from working - dump her

If she complains that you didn't spend enough money on something - dump her

If she doesn't take care of her self - dump her. If she isn't going to work out, wear make up, dress well she won't start after you get married. She needs to know she is replaceable.

If she smokes or gets sloshed every time she drinks, dump her. She is carrying emotional baggage of some kind.

If on a regular basis she turns you down for sex, dump her. By regular basis, I mean more than a few times. If she is not meeting your need of frequency now she definitely won't start when you get married.

If she does "baby talk" dump her

If she disrespects you in any way - dump her. She's not your slave you're not her's.

If she turns off underwear or bikini commercials - dump her

If she can't handle nudity on TV or in a movie – dump her. Again she is probably carrying emotional baggageツ… Hardcore porn may be the exception to this (occasionally should be fine)

If she cries after sex – dump her. She is probably carrying a lot of emotional baggage or getting back at her lover/husband/boyfriend and realized she made a mistake.

Don't get Married for Conveniences
These are mainly her conveniences. She is looking for a roof over her head, healthcare or someone to help her in some capacity.

If you are in the military, DO NOT GET MARRIED.

The military is the worst place for a relationship married or otherwise. You or she will be going to distant lands and meeting the local populations and having cultural exchanges. ALWAYS WEAR A CONDOM. If she is back home she will be lonely and will turn to her closest male companions. Remember men are only friends with women they want or would sleep with. Sailors belong on ships and ships belong at seaツ… Soldiers are meant to be prepared for war and training for war does not happen at home or the local base. Military men are not home all of the time and need to be away for long periods of time. Why make hers or your time miserable. If you get married for convenience, you will find out quickly how inconvenient it can be.

Sorry for the late reaction guys, but am I the only one who is baffled at this post? Do you really support this Pachipro?
 
I doubt he was serious... Considering 2 lines up there can easily contradict themselves... Though i do not see this as a place for such a joke.
 
Carlson said:
you guys think so lowly. She started off work in Yokohama and when she got promotion they moved her to roppongi to manage store. I know for a fact how many partners she has had and ive been the only 1 sense ive meet her.

That's okay. The thing is, we know Roppongi, but we don't know your girl other than what you've posted.
 
leonmarino said:
Sorry for the late reaction guys, but am I the only one who is baffled at this post? Do you really support this Pachipro?
No I don't. I thought I had mentioned that in my post and that it was only a joke, but looking back at my post I see I omitted that. Sorry for the confusion.

I do not support everything he says as some are downright sexist and unfair as other issues may be involved, but he does make some good points in other areas that guys have to watch out for and which I agree on based on my experiences. However, the word "dump" is a little too harsh IMO. He should've used "use caution" instead.

Hope that is a little more clear leon.
 
Like i said, if he was likely unserious at all in what he said. If he was serious, he should be thrown into a meat grinder.
 
Carlson said:
you guys think so lowly. She started off work in Yokohama and when she got promotion they moved her to roppongi to manage store. I know for a fact how many partners she has had and ive been the only 1 sense ive meet her.

...Except for the guy she openly admitted to emotionally cheating on you with over MSN.

Not making light of it in any way. We are in your corner.

Seconded, we got your back, bruv.

well i thought it best we didnt see each other tonight beacuse i would be getting off work going out to roppongi or wherever we would go after. and then working the next morning. instead i told her i would wait for her to get off work and call or we could chat on msn. She wants to come over Monday to talk and watch a movie. (For over a year we would take turns buying a movie and watch it. her turn, my turn, etc) I bought a movie i know she wants to see and also got a card. I am trying to figure out what i want to write down. I will wait things out for a little while longer to give her the time she needs. If it does not work out atleast i will know i tryed everything in my power to try. I will always love her but im not sure that we can share the same type of love for each other that we once did. Now that this has happend. In the end if friends is all we are, im still coming out ahead.

PROGRESS!

That light you are just now perceiving in the distance is awfully beautiful isnt it?.

Revelation is an awsome thing.

You have tried alot of stuff by the sounds, Carl, and by the sounds of it, there is still no improvement, even though you have given her attention she has asked for.
Nice Gaijin is right when he says a relationship should feel right without requiring blubbering confessions of love and attention every minute, and especially making such hefty demands on your life.

Dont let her make you feel guilty for being who you are, theres nothing wrong with you and you arent somehow failing her by being yourself.
Oneday you will meet a girl who wont be such a hassle, and you will enjoy being with her, even long after the sex and honeymoon period hormones have worn off.
And she will feel the same about you.
 
Carlson said:
I know for a fact how many partners she has had and ive been the only 1 sense ive meet her.


Carlson, I'm not trying to start something here, but there is no way you could positively know this unless you are with her 24/7 in which you would never go to work. The fact that she is with you and toying with two other guys leads one to think it is possible!
 
CC1 said:
Carlson, I'm not trying to start something here, but there is no way you could positively know this unless you are with her 24/7 in which you would never go to work. The fact that she is with you and toying with two other guys leads one to think it is possible!


you dont have to be starting anything i know for a fact. She has and would never lie to me. Sure she talked to other guys in the same way I talk to other girls who are friends. Unless you have meet her its not fair to judge so easily.

other then that im just warn out from everything right now. Work gave me a half day off still to go out but im just going to use it to sleep in a little.
 
Pachipro said:
Hope that is a little more clear leon.
Yup! It sure is! I was afraid you meant it, and nobody reacted to it which scared me a little.. :p
There is some wisdom to it though, that being with a girl with "emotional baggage" can be hard. It can be fruitful, but also hard. Same thing with a girl "who doesn't know what she wants".
 
Carlson said:
other then that im just warn out from everything right now. Work gave me a half day off still to go out but im just going to use it to sleep in a little.


Rest you must! See things more clearly we hope, young Padawan!
 
leonmarino said:
Yup! It sure is! I was afraid you meant it, and nobody reacted to it which scared me a little.. :p
There is some wisdom to it though, that being with a girl with "emotional baggage" can be hard. It can be fruitful, but also hard. Same thing with a girl "who doesn't know what she wants".

indeed. What's simple is a clingy girl who's obcessed to the point she won't leave you alone for a second... Then you won't have to worry about her cheating on you, you just gotta find a way to make money since you can't take her to work. X'D
 
you dont have to be starting anything i know for a fact. She has and would never lie to me. Sure she talked to other guys in the same way I talk to other girls who are friends. Unless you have meet her its not fair to judge so easily.

I dunno carl, you know her better then any of us so i guess your right, but I wouldnt trust a girl I knew as incapable of lying to me, if she has been treating me as she has treated you.

Either ways its good to take the day to rest, you need it. 👍
 
nurizeko said:
I dunno carl, you know her better then any of us so i guess your right, but I wouldnt trust a girl I knew as incapable of lying to me, if she has been treating me as she has treated you.

Either ways its good to take the day to rest, you need it. 👍

I agree, especially if she knows of your trust in her... I remember a gf i had once... Her name was misty. Sweet as heck, told me "everything." She told me about problems with herself and stuff, but she never told me the one problem. that she was unloyal. Everything else she told me though.
 
she has been honest about everything in the past. Lately she seems confused and last night I desided i wont take it anymore. The other guy has filled her head with so much BS its unreal. The thing is there is other girls he does this to. One of them he tryed it on is a friend of mine ive known for almost 2 years, before i meet Chinatsu. The other is a girl named Emi who has quit her job and is moving to Okinawa and says she wants to be with Kris. Chinatsu knows about Emi and says she would do the same thing after they meet and she likes him. I said I had enough of the crap. She knows how i feel for her and she said she still loves me but doesnt know if we could ever be the same. She understand how stupid she is but doesnt care and wants to try it anyway. Last night I told her im done talking if she wants to be friends or see me again she will have to ask. I hurt so much inside and I ended up coming into work and told my supervisor that I didnt do what i told him i was going to do. He was mad and said if it was anyone else i would get paperwork but this is the first time he has seen me do anything like this so he will let me work a full day and still come into work tomorrow moring at 0300.

I miss her I love her I want to be friends but I know I should stay strong and not talk to her. So this way she will find out the hard way how dumb she was. I know what will happen. Kris will come to Tokyo to see her, they will have sex and he might talk to her again after. Or when he wants to come back to Tokyo again. She said she is willing to take that chance.

Its not the fact that she left me why I am mad. I messed up I tryed to make things work. Its the fact how stupid she is acting with the other guy.
 
Sounds like this other guy is a real "player." All he's doing is trying to add another notch to his list of conquests. If your girl is stupid enough to fall for his game, then they deserve each other.
 
From what she told me he wont be here tell some time in Sep. If it does happen and she meets him and I still feel the same way I do now, maybe I will take her back. Im hoping she will find out and choose not to see him and she will want to try and start over. Im not going to talk to her for a few more days so she has time to sulk and cry and feel guilty. She about hated me when i said I would leave her and didnt want to be friends. Maybe the time away and with no attention she might miss me. Who knows anymore... At this point im trying to figure out if I want to see other girls or if I myself need time off to think and try to understand what happend.
 
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