English > Japanese Kanji

Drop · 3 Nov 2011

Hello!
I'd really love to get some help to translate my english sentence into kanji.
the sentence is "Dreams never die" and if i understand it correct it should be translated as "Dreams die never" i dont know for sure though.

Would appreciate any help i can get with this.
thank youu!! <3

Toritoribe · 3 Nov 2011

It's impossible to translate that sentence ONLY in kanji.

Drop · 3 Nov 2011

rly?

okey but how do i do it then to make it look good and all? what other types do i use?

Sorry that i might sound like a total noob, but i am and have no further insight in the Japanese language other than being a anime fanatic since 1996. Basically all i can do i recognize words or sentences by sound.

eeky · 3 Nov 2011

In addition to kanji, Japanese uses two scripts, a bit like alphabets, called hiragana and katakana. Many small grammatical words, verb endings, etc., as well as miscellaneous other words, are written in hiragana and have no kanji equivalents. So, almost every grammatically complete sentence that you write in Japanese includes hiragana as well as kanji. (This does not necessarily apply to names, noun phrases, or abbreviated expressions where the little grammatical words are omitted.) Hopefully a fluent speaker will be back to translate your sentence nicely. I won't try as I'll probably make a mess of it!

charusu · 4 Nov 2011

夢は決して死なない。

Or

夢は決して死にません。

Drop · 4 Nov 2011

charusu said:
夢は決して死なない。

Or

夢は決して死にません。

Thank you very very very much!

Drop · 4 Nov 2011

Btw is it possible to write it downwards?

Mike Cash · 4 Nov 2011

charusu said:
夢は決して死なない。

Or

夢は決して死にません。

I'd go with something like 夢は不死 or 夢は死を知らず if I wanted it for a tattoo, which I would bet money the OP does.

Drop · 4 Nov 2011

Mike Cash said:
I'd go with something like 夢は不死 or 夢は死を知らず if I wanted it for a tattoo, which I would bet money the OP does.

Thank you kind sir but you have just lost the money you bet 'cuz I'm going to paint it on the wall in my room. But yes i do want it to look "tattoo-ish", that is true.

Mike Cash · 4 Nov 2011

Oh, in that case please wait for a native speaker to take a look at what I wrote. It's good enough for a tattoo, but for something important like painting on a wall I would prefer that it be checked for accuracy first.

Drop · 4 Nov 2011

Mike Cash said:
Oh, in that case please wait for a native speaker to take a look at what I wrote. It's good enough for a tattoo, but for something important like painting on a wall I would prefer that it be checked for accuracy first.

Okey, then I will wait some more

charusu · 4 Nov 2011

It's good enough for a tattoo, but for something important like painting on a wall I would prefer that it be checked for accuracy first.

Mike, I LOVE how you asserted that the wall painting is more important than a tattoo! I literally laughed-out-loud! Tattoos come and go, but wall paintings, THOSE are permanent - HA! I have, laughingly, considered a tattoo of はい、私はこの文の意味を知っている。just to be super ironic and sarcastic.

I'm not understanding your grammar in 夢は死を知らず - shouldn't it be 夢は死が知らずだ ? Well maybe that doesn't make sense, but I don't understand your use of the object particle.

Toritoribe · 5 Nov 2011

I prefer 夢は死なない. Simple and strong.

charusu said:
I'm not understanding your grammar in 夢は死を知らず - shouldn't it be 夢は死が知らずだ ? Well maybe that doesn't make sense, but I don't understand your use of the object particle.

夢は死を知らず literally means "Dreams don't know death". 知らず is a classical negative form of 知る.

charusu · 5 Nov 2011

I was wondering when you (Toritoribe) would chime-in - I sometimes forget that when I am typing you are most likely sleeping.

夢は死を知らず makes sense now, I was interpreting 知らず as a noun suffix meaning 'unaffected by'.

Drop · 10 Nov 2011

hmm okay.. is 夢一度も死 anywhere near "dreams never die"? and is it possible to write it downwards(?) dont know what its calld when its typed that way. Or is really hard and takes a lot of time to do?
:?

Toritoribe · 10 Nov 2011

No. 夢一度も死 doesn't make sense at all. Word-to-word translation doesn't work mostly.

死: death(noun)
死ぬ: to die(verb)
死なない: not to die(negative form of the verb)

Drop said:
is it possible to write it downwards(?)

Yes.

Drop said:
dont know what its calld when its typed that way.

縦書き
tategaki
vertical writing

Drop · 10 Nov 2011

Okay, thanks alot!

So lets say i want to write 夢は不死 in vertical writing, then how do i do it? or is there a better way to translate "dreams never die" if i want it in vertical writing?

Mike Cash · 10 Nov 2011

All you do for vertical writing is just write the characters as you see them here, except vertically instead of horizontally. (There's an exception, but it doesn't apply to anything here).

Drop · 10 Nov 2011

Okay so its like this?
夢
は
不
死

Mike Cash · 10 Nov 2011

That's the idea.

Drop · 10 Nov 2011

YAAY!! Then thank you all very much! You all helped me out a lot and i also feel like I've learned a lot so again thank you so much!

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