Associates Degree in Japanese

Rei Yahya

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Hello! I'm looking at getting an associates degree in Japanese sometime in the near future. I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of job I could get with such an education that is related to the Japanese language, such as a translator. If anyone can share anything to help me, that would be fantastic. 窶堙ヲ窶堙ォ窶堋オ窶堋ュ窶堋ィナ?ティ窶堋「窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。
 
Hello Rei! I want ot go Japan in the near future for education or having a job. I will graduate from university at 2015. My priority target is that going to Japan for master degree or hava a job, after my graduate from university. I'm sorry, I don't know anything about that you asked to us. I'm waiting for same answer which you waiting. If you learn anything please let me know. Thank you so much. Mail: [email protected]
 
Hello! I'm looking at getting an associates degree in Japanese sometime in the near future. I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of job I could get with such an education that is related to the Japanese language, such as a translator. If anyone can share anything to help me, that would be fantastic. 窶堙ヲ窶堙ォ窶堋オ窶堋ュ窶堋ィナ?ティ窶堋「窶堋オ窶堙懌?堋キツ。

I don't know a whole lot about an associate's degree in Japanese, but my intuition tells me there isn't much you could do. Even a bachelor's degree in Japanese isn't very useful unless you want to teach, and even then I think most people would prefer a master's or some degree in education.

I doubt you could get a job as a translator with just an associate's. There are people pursuing a bachelor's in Japanese at my school that are in Japanese 301, considered intermediate, who have trouble with even N5/N4 grammar/vocab/whatever. In short, demonstration that you can speak/read/write Japanese at a high level, such as passing the N1 exam, is preferable over your degree, me thinks. In my opinion, having a bachelor's degree, not to mention an associate's degree, in Japanese is not very commendable.
 
Unless you plan to pursue it through to a post-graduate degree, I would say it is a waste of time and money.

Translation gigs are based on proven and demonstrated translation skills and nobody in the field will be impressed by a piece of paper hanging on the wall, all the more so for an A.A. Degree. I've seen the level of Japanese that gets covered in a couple years of college.....and it ain't much.

Spend your time and money toward acquiring marketable job skills. If its in something you have a passion about, so much the better. The world is already awash in over-educated under-employable people who got degrees in useless fields. Read this.

Translation also isn't a simple matter of knowing two languages and just swapping stuff back and forth; it is a completely different set of skills to merely being bilingual. In addition to extensive facility with both languages, you're going to need to be well-versed in whatever field you translate in. You looking to do medical? Technical? Literary? Movie subtitles? Financial? Legal? In order to do a credible job translating you're going to have to develop a fairly decent working knowledge of whatever field your target customers are in.

Yes, translation is a discipline unto itself and you should never make the common mistake of believing that just learning another language is going to make you a translator. Nor should you assume going into the study that you will come out on the far end competent to do it, that you'll be able to make a living at it, or that you'll even like doing it.

As an aside, I've always been against the use of much translating when learning Japanese....unless you're learning for the specific goal of becoming a translator. I've always been disgusted with the awful results I have seen from the use of the grammar translation method in Japan for English education, for one thing. I believe that doing translation in either direction is a crutch and a hindrance to developing any facility with the target language. Look at it logically: in order to translate a sentence, you must first be able to understand what is being said; if you can understand what is being said, why on earth would you need or want to translate it? You may say that's alright for listening, but what about for speaking? Don't you have to translate your English thought into Japanese first before speaking? If you have done sufficient drilling of patterns and built up enough practice and practical experience, the answer is an emphatic, "No, you don't.". You don't have to construct a whole Japanese sentence in your head before you start speaking. You start in talking and create the sentences on-the-fly....just as you do in English. This is why I maintain that learning Japanese should be approached in different ways depending on what you hope to get out of it. Just learning Japanese well won't necessarily make you a good translator and learning to translate well won't necessarily make you fluent in Japanese. There isn't a direct and absolute correlation between the two.

Unfortunately, there is no way of even knowing if you would like working in the field or even any meaningful way of experiencing it beforehand to help you make a decision. Just suffice it to say that puzzling your way through a few sentences from a manga you like with the help of dictionaries and reference materials for fun and at your own leisure is entirely different from the responsibility of having to churn out accurate and polished renditions of material that may bore you to tears and to do it on a deadline.
 
An associate's degree is a 2-year degree in the U.S. This will not be acceptable for a work visa in Japan. You're going to need a bachelor's degree.

Even so, that only gets you past work visa requirements. You need to get hired first. I really don't see how an AA degree and zero work experience will look enticing at all to an employer. I agree with Mike on how insufficient it is, and you're going to have to study 1-2 more years anyway to land that BA degree, so your Japanese language skills will improve a little during that time. However, to do translation work, count on the very bottom rung of the ladder at best.

BTW,
I'm a fellow Minnesotan and took a year of the Japanese language courses at the U of MN. It wasn't much, so just 1 more year is not adding a heckuva lot. Certainly not nearly enough to translate anything.

Read Terrie Lloyd's advice. Heed it.
Work in Japan :: Terrieテ「竄ャ邃「s Job Tips

Also, read this link and the links on the left side of the page.
How to Become a Japanese Translator | eHow.com
 
also as I understand it translating related to written stuff, documents, subtitles etc. while interpreting involves listening and speaking. most places that would need that done would require a fairly high degree of proficiency, and separate training in the required modality. you can't spend the whole day looking things up in a dictionary, or asking the speaker to say again because you didn't catch it the first time. plus there are going to idioms and slang involved that no dictionary could properly explain. I had several teachers who used to do translating/interpreting on the side but even with them being native speakers, it wasn't a viable source of income.
 
most places that would need that done would require a fairly high degree of proficiency, and separate training in the required modality.
American colleague of mine spend a year doing translation work for ECC. Pay was a mere 250,000 yen/month (plus overtime). I don't know if he got the job for any certain specialty/genre of work, but he did say it was very lonely work. You are given a task (or several) plus a deadline in which to meet it (the overtime comes in usually when the deadline is very short), and you work alone to translate the work.

you can't spend the whole day looking things up in a dictionary,
Actually, that is precisely what is done for translating. My colleague said he had about JLPT level 2 fluency, and he could do a lot of translating on his own, but there was a lot of stuff he had to check in a dictionary.

plus there are going to idioms and slang involved that no dictionary could properly explain.
This is something you cannot avoid, and if you end up doing any sort of technical work (law, IT, medical, engineering, marketing, etc.) there will not only be idioms and slang and particular genre-specific vocabulary, but also there will be the proper nuance in which to phrase things. Direct translation itself is flawed, as so many English language learners find out to their chagrin after high school.
 
I used to subscribe to a translation listserv or some such thing, populated by people who actually make their livings doing J-E and E-J translation. While dictionaries do play a role, they also have some other tricks up their sleeves that help to cut down the workload. I don't remember the specifics, but I believe they had some rather elaborate macro routines for Word that would spot certain commonly appearing phrases/terms and automatically substitute them into the text. It has been over a decade since I even looked at it, and I would assume they have developed even better strategies by now.

Japan is awash with companies that bilk aspiring translators out of either their money or their work, by the way. There are tons of (mostly) housewives who did well enough in English in school to imagine they could work from home doing translations....and there are companies out there scamming them every day of the week. Some places charge to "register" them as translators, with the implied promise of sending them freelance work. Some places actually get their translation work done for free by these aspiring translators by sending them texts to translate as a "test" prior to registering them for paid work.
 
Thank you all very much for your responses, they've all helped immensely in solidifying what I know I want to do with coming years of my life. I apologize for lateness, your replies were very much appreciated.
 
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