Are there any japanese people in the forum?

Minty said:
Why you think only English people can speak English? Oh if you want to know where people are from, go to the members' introduction section.😊

thank you i am only new so i didn't know about the profile thing. It would be easier if people just showed the information beneath the name like me and used the flag to represent nationality. Also i'd rather have England than UK but i couldn't find and England option.

also of course i know people can speak english but i thought at least a few wouldn't be able to. After all, isn't it arrogant to expect everyone else to speak your language? But people probably interpreted it as me being ignorant or patronising people, saying they are stupid or something. I also know now that this is an english speaking forum so why would anyone want to. That goes to you Elizabeth as well.

This gives me an idea for some interesting threads. Thanks for turning this issue into a 'hot topic' peeps. If you see any other threads from me please contribute! i'll try to make them as relevant and interesting as possible.(and maybe unintentionally controversial)
 
Mike Cash said:
I didn't imply a damned thing. I stated it clearly. The only two who seem to have needed to have it explained to them were a pair of Manchester teens.
i asked for an explanation mike no need to be an arse about it jesus...
and i type how i speak, deal with it? why'd you have to be so nartsy... its mean :(:eek:

aaanyways i think this really has moved off topic from something that was silly anyways lol rly should be locked ^_^
 
also of course i know people can speak english but i thought at least a few wouldn't be able to. After all, isn't it arrogant to expect everyone else to speak your language?
The members I'm aware of using an online translator number maybe one or two at most...if you've ever had to deal with autotranslated texts you'll understand why that's no way to build a forum. 😌
 
Elizabeth said:
ナス窶樞?堋ェ窶冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥニ陳?停?愴弛ツーツ、ニ棚ニ停?愴停?ーニ辰ニ停?懌?倒窶禿ウナステ停?敕板坂??窶堙ー窶ケツー窶堙ァ窶堋ュナスg窶廃窶堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堋ア窶堙?、ツ坂?堋々1窶堋?窶堙ゥ窶堋「窶堙?...autotranslated窶堋ウ窶堙ェ窶堋スニ弾ニ鱈ニ湛ニ暖窶堙可湘ュ窶堙俄?佚篠祥??堋オ窶堙遺?堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙寂?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙遺?堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙遺?堙ァ窶堙篠、窶堙遺?堋コ窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堋ェニ稚ニ辿ツーニ停?ーニ停ぎ窶堙ーツ構窶凛窶堋キ窶堙ゥ窶「テサ窶邸窶堙??堙坂?堙遺?堋「窶堋ゥ窶板昶?ーテー窶堋キ窶堙ゥ窶堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堋、ツ。

Elizabeth said:
using the member whom I know, and an on-line translator number probably -- at most -- 1 or 2 ... if the text by which autotranslated was carried out must always be coped with, he will understand why it is not the way it builds a forum.
Here is Elizabeth's text first translated to Japanese, and then translated back to English, using the same website.
 
Tollen said:
aaanyways i think this really has moved off topic from something that was silly anyways lol rly should be locked ^_^

ok ok i agree. Us mancs should stick together but i was new and am still new, it was just a question. and there is still a major point to be made in the ultimate thread of threads, i'm still thinking about how to phrase it so the most obvoius arguments against it can be bypassed.

beunos chachos for now.

and wow, you other guys didn't have to go to all that trouble for little ol me? translating and everything. Anyway as that other guy said, lets let a dead dog lie and get this bad boy under wraps.
 
Tollen said:
i asked for an explanation mike no need to be an arse about it jesus...
and i type how i speak, deal with it? why'd you have to be so nartsy... its mean

Please point at the post where I criticized your typing. Thank you.
 
Let a Japanese person explain

if there are no japanese people in the forum, what the hell is the point in having one?
because surely they more than anyone would know about their own country
Yes, I'm Japanese and I probably know more kanji than most of the non-Japanese people here, and my Japanese sentences look/sound more natural than theirs, well, I hope....
But I don't even know how to explain Japanese grammar in English, I just know how to speak, read, and write it. (Actually, when I first came across the grammar thing called "te-form" for the first time, I was just like "what".. well, excuse my vulgar English, hehehe) . Also, I heard they teach Japanese grammar in different way to non-Japanese people, so my knowledge of Japanese grammar maybe won't really help much.
I'm very sure there are some non-native Japanese speakers who can explain it in English far better than I do here in this forum. And also, they know what is difficult for learners, what is the best way to teach a beginner, etc etc...
So....this forum IS already helpful for those who are learning Japanese langauge.
Therefore, as I mentioned earlier, we, Japanese people know more words, expressions, examples, backgrounds of a word, new slang words, how and who a certain word is used by, and so on.
So I agree, if we post more here and try to help Japanese language learners, this forum will be MORE awesome.
Oh! and one more thing I've noticed!
If you would want to know how to see Japanese characters on internet.
Those non-Japanese people who can type and read Japanese here can help you perfectly. Japanese people don't really know from where to install Japanese language support thing or how to change some setting in the computer, since Japanese computers here already have it when we buy them.
When I asked them why they haven`t posted yet, they usually give the stock answers:
My English isn`t good enough (even when they do have a strong command of it),
I am shy, foreignors know more about Japan than we do (Japanphiles most certainly do),
and I don`t like to disagree with people in public or debate.
Most Japanese are perfectionists when it comes to speaking a foreign language.
If they can't speak English at a fluent level, they will most likely tell you their English is bad.
True, most of the Japanese people are really scared of making mistakes in English.
In my opinion, that's becuase of the way were taught English here.
Grammar is taught very strictly here and if you make a mistake (in grammer or spelling) (even though it's such a little mistake and the sentence itself is understandable enough), teachers jump on it and correct it immediately.
Then how could we enjoy it? We just become more and more Englishphoebia...and shyer to use English.
Actually, when I first joined here, after submitting a post, I checked it several times and just wished no one would pick on my Engrish (not English, you know).
But after reading posts by native English speakers here and found spelling or grammatical mistakes here, I've become kinda relieved and now I am feeling more comfortable to post. (Having found nice/kind sort of posts has encouraged me too.)
And....that's right, I don't like to disagree with people in public or debate. So I kinda stay away from political boards.
😌 Phew! You would never believe how long it's taken me to write this post...
For me, writing in English is really time-consuming! But.....fun!🙂
 
Tollen said:
and i type how i speak, deal with it? why'd you have to be so nartsy... its mean :(:eek:
Tollen, I'm the one who commented about your typing; If you want people to take anything that you say seriously, you'll realize that readers will appreciate another's opinions a lot more when the writer shows that they feel strong enough about them to actually add punctuation & capitalization.

It's a common theme in writing (I mean you don't have to be Shakespeare)--- but if you don't care enough about what you write, why should anyone?

Kyoko_desu said:
For me, writing in English is really time-consuming! But.....fun!🙂
That's exactly how I feel about Japanese. ;) 窶堙冷?堙ア窶堋ォ窶堙・窶堋、窶堋オ窶堙?。ツ。ツ。窶堙冷?堙ア窶堋ォ窶堙・窶堋、窶堋オ窶堙?。ツ。ツ。
 
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I just opened this thread now, today, and simply want to say that I hope that what has basically transpired up to now, wherever it stands, to whatever degree it is or is not complete (in the sense of unfinished arguments, questions which one still wants to get an answer to, etc.) will be kindly given the opportunity to slip into the past, to be shrugged off and allowed to fade from immediate memory.

It seems that there would be no point in further discussing other to offer reasons as to why the forum is good. (of course nothing is perfect, but just to focus, for now, on the good points) Anyway, I hope. MM
 
Kyoko_desu said:
But after reading posts by native English speakers here and found spelling or grammatical mistakes here, I've become kinda relieved and now I am feeling more comfortable to post. (Having found nice/kind sort of posts has encouraged me too.)

Actually, the Belgians and Scandinavians post far, far better English than the vast majority of the native English speakers here. And I'm being 100% serious when I say that.
 
Mike Cash said:
Actually, the Belgians and Scandinavians post far, far better English than the vast majority of the native English speakers here. And I'm being 100% serious when I say that.

I think it depends on how close the language is to your own. French will be easier to an Italian speaker than a Japanese speaker because it is very similar.

As for the native English speakers here, they probably weren't paying attention.
 
Kyoko_desu said:
Yes, I'm Japanese and I probably know more kanji than most of the non-Japanese people here, and my Japanese sentences look/sound more natural than theirs, well, I hope....
But I don't even know how to explain Japanese grammar in English, I just know how to speak, read, and write it. (Actually, when I first came across the grammar thing called "te-form" for the first time, I was just like "what".. well, excuse my vulgar English, hehehe) . Also, I heard they teach Japanese grammar in different way to non-Japanese people, so my knowledge of Japanese grammar maybe won't really help much.
I'm very sure there are some non-native Japanese speakers who can explain it in English far better than I do here in this forum. And also, they know what is difficult for learners, what is the best way to teach a beginner, etc etc...
So....this forum IS already helpful for those who are learning Japanese langauge.
really know from where to install Japanese language support thing or how to change some setting in the computer, since Japanese computers here already have it when we buy them.
True, most of the Japanese people are really scared of making mistakes in English.
Actually, when I first joined here, after submitting a post, I checked it several times and just wished no one would pick on my Engrish (not English, you know).
But after reading posts by native English speakers here and found spelling or grammatical mistakes here, I've become kinda relieved and now I am feeling more comfortable to post. (Having found nice/kind sort of posts has encouraged me too.)
And....that's right, I don't like to disagree with people in public or debate. So I kinda stay away from political boards.
😌 Phew! You would never believe how long it's taken me to write this post...
For me, writing in English is really time-consuming! But.....fun!🙂
wow, thats really cool. I'm sure no one would nastily pick out grammer mistakes in a japanese persons post, but it would be better to let some one correct it, rather than making the same mistake over and over again.
if i need to, can i ask you questions and stuff? of how to say stuff etc?


btw, tollen errr... hehe... i kinda stired the **** a bit between you and mike cash, i thought yukio was talking to me about the grammer thing so i went sick at him. Cash went sick at me in his defense and then you read it and thought it was directed at you. Sorry! see what you've caused Yukio? Never correct an englishman on his grammer. Unless it's wrong. Anyway when you're trying to type fast and move on you're likely to make a mistake. I always check before i post but almost every other thread i read has spelling or grammer mistakes. c'est la vie... ne-ce pas?
 
Hanneesh said:
btw, tollen errr... hehe... i kinda stired the **** a bit between you and mike cash, i thought yukio was talking to me about the grammer thing so i went sick at him. Cash went sick at me in his defense and then you read it and thought it was directed at you. Sorry!

I'm pretty much always the way you've seen me so far. So I hope you don't think I was being particularly harsh toward you for some personal reason. I bear no ill will toward either you or Tollen. What you characterize as "going sick" on you was nothing more than my typical, characteristic bluntness.
 
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