とおれみせん - Slang?

[user58782]

So the full text is:

ーお知らせー
右のゲートは右からしかとおれみせん

To the right is a gate.

My question here is - what is the 「とおれみせん」 bit?

I assume it's 通れみせん first off. And my guess would be that the 通る is in passive... And then the みせん is short for みません as in 通れてみません。 However, I'm not sure and this is a blind guess (It could also be potential, but that makes less sense with the て＋みません theory).

The other thought I had was that the 「見せ」 bit could be the nominalised stem of 見せる and the ん could be a の... Seems highly unlikely though (just sounds wrong and the meaning is all nonsense) and I think it's more likely just slang for something.


--Below is me implementing my knowledge of Classical Japanese. Do not take it seriously - this is what I do for fun when I can't figure something out--

The other-other-other option I had played with was 「みせ」 being the 連用形 stem of the 上一段 「みる」+未然形「き」 and the ん being a sound-changed 終止形「む」。 That.... Doesn't help much =P. The 「き」 and the 「む」 would basically contradict each other here (it'd make more sense if the 「き」 was the sentence ender... And was a 「けり」 to boot) and the meaning becomes something (assuming we swap the 「き」 and the 「む」) "Intended to see and do" or thereabouts. Tie that to the for-some-reason 已然形/命令形「とほる」 and you get... Something that does make much sense. Something like "I demand you depart and intended to see and do only from the right gate!" or "I intended to depart and see and do only from the right gate!"

Somehow I feel that's not accurate. And of course the 「しか」 is right out since this totally accurate interpretation removes the negative at the end of the sentence.

 

[Toritoribe]

I'm pretty sure that it's just a typo of 通れません.

You can pass through the right gate only from the right side of it.

 

[user58782]

You're wonderful Toritoribe! It's always the simplest little things, eh? That does make a lot more sense.


SPEAKING OF WHICH.

Mind helping me with this one?

So, this one is simply called:

「（＾ ＾）て き が え」

Now, this one is a level name for a level that is loosely based on another level, but with a very ghetto tile-swap and enough modifications to make it new. Otherwise there are no tells - it isn't a great level and I think the author knows that.


I have a couple thoughts here. Since it isn't really entirely 'obvious' what this one is... I have two theories:

1) （＾ ＾）て着替え

In this case, I'm not sure how the 「て」 functions. The 着替え makes a lot of sense though due to the tile-swap. If I could understand the て, this makes the most sense. It could be a 手, but I'm not sure if "changing hands/what's in your hands" makes any sense for this. Unlikely a 手. Could it be a weird shortening of して - so "smiling like （＾ ＾） and changing 'clothes' (in this case the clothes of the level)"?

2) （＾ ＾）的がえ

In this case the 的 is denoting "in the manner of" and the がえ marks the 反語 (がえ［終助］の意味 - goo国語辞書 That seems possible, but unlikely due to the... Rather uncommon nature of that がえ.

3) （＾ ＾）て き が え

Something else entirely. No real idea here.

 

[Toritoribe]

I presume it's 敵替え "changing the opponent".

 

[user58782]

It's possible, but I'm not sure it makes much sense...

But a native speaker on nico even wondered what it meant, so it isn't a clear cut-and-dry situation.

Your interpretation certainly handles that annoying 「て」 handily though.

 

[Toritoribe]

Tell him/her my interpretation. I bet he/she would agree with me. Oh, BTW, I, too, am a native Japanese speaker.;-)

 

[user58782]

I figured from the flag and your almost always getting these rather tough things correct very quickly. I apologise if it seemed as if I was insinuating that you weren't.

At this point my thoughts are to either try to make sense of it within the context (because I do agree that your interpretation makes the most sense using the characters provided) OR to break out my copy of 「全訳読解古語辞典」 and see if this author mysteriously wrote his level name in 12th century Japanese or something (in all honesty nothing would make me happier as I love Classical Japanese even more than contemporary =P).

I'm more inclined to just agree with you.

I was being serious about the other native speaker not knowing though - he said something along the lines of 「てきがえってどの意味だろう？」 in a comment on a video on niconico. Perhaps he came to the same conclusion you did and is now at the point where I am - wondering how the name fits in with the level.

Ah well, I'll make sense of it. Thanks!