Need a word or phrase translated?
- Thread starter Buntaro
- Start date
- 22 Feb 2008
- 18,266
- 4,926
People often have the same impression when hearing the answer. I, as well.
- 31 Jul 2014
- 179
- 2
「個」は、「三個師団」のようにある種の名詞を格助詞なしで修飾するが、これは中国語の「箇（个）」に由来する用法である。なお「三ヶ月・三ヶ所・三ヶ国」などの「ヶ」（箇）も同じ成り立ちの言葉だが、現在の日本語では「箇」だけで助数詞であるという意識は失われている。
Seems like a simple sentence, but the (だけ)で part is kind of confusing. Is this the 5th/6th usage? We're still talking about ヶ here?
（「ヶ」が）現在の日本語では「箇」だけで助数詞であるという意識は失われている。
The awareness that "ヶ" is a counter only in the shape of "箇" has been lost in present day Japanese?
Seems like a simple sentence, but the (だけ)で part is kind of confusing. Is this the 5th/6th usage? We're still talking about ヶ here?
（「ヶ」が）現在の日本語では「箇」だけで助数詞であるという意識は失われている。
The awareness that "ヶ" is a counter only in the shape of "箇" has been lost in present day Japanese?
- 22 Feb 2008
- 18,266
- 4,926
It says that ヶ/箇 can't be used as a counter just by themselves (works only with another counter such like 三ヶ月・三ヶ所・三ヶ国).
- 31 Jul 2014
- 179
- 2
Thanks.
Ah, so it was the 6th usage after all. (６ 動作・作用の手段・方法・材料などを表す。…を使って)?
So, it's saying that this awareness of ヶ/箇 being counters by themselves has been lost in present day Japanese. Which means that they were usable as standalone counters before at some point in time?
BTW, I got slipped up by the fact that the counter was referred to as "「ヶ」(箇)" at first, but then switched to just "「箇」". I thought that it's trying to say that one writing methodology became more acceptable over the other because of the wording
Ah, so it was the 6th usage after all. (６ 動作・作用の手段・方法・材料などを表す。…を使って)?
So, it's saying that this awareness of ヶ/箇 being counters by themselves has been lost in present day Japanese. Which means that they were usable as standalone counters before at some point in time?
BTW, I got slipped up by the fact that the counter was referred to as "「ヶ」(箇)" at first, but then switched to just "「箇」". I thought that it's trying to say that one writing methodology became more acceptable over the other because of the wording
Last edited:
- 22 Feb 2008
- 18,266
- 4,926
Probably, yes.
か【箇】［漢字項目］の意味 - 国語辞書 - goo辞書
こ【個】［漢字項目］の意味 - 国語辞書 - goo辞書
Yeah, I, too, think it's confusing. It might be because that 一ヶ is still sometimes used, unlike 一箇.
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
まあ、あれでけの参考書を読むとなれば
そりゃ誰だって逃げたくなるってもんだぜ。
The context: These guys are in the middle of training. A dude that doesn't train want to invite a guy to train but he got rejected. The guy that is invited says he want to come here to play games but the other places are noisy so he tend to play it inside the mothership. However there are another two groups that he think they might request him to help them so he ran away from the mothership and goes to the training place. After some conversation a youngster says this line.
My translation is: ''Well, if you can read the reference book that much anybody will want to run away...''
Is it literally correct?
そりゃ誰だって逃げたくなるってもんだぜ。
The context: These guys are in the middle of training. A dude that doesn't train want to invite a guy to train but he got rejected. The guy that is invited says he want to come here to play games but the other places are noisy so he tend to play it inside the mothership. However there are another two groups that he think they might request him to help them so he ran away from the mothership and goes to the training place. After some conversation a youngster says this line.
My translation is: ''Well, if you can read the reference book that much anybody will want to run away...''
Is it literally correct?
- 22 Feb 2008
- 18,266
- 4,926
あれだけの参考書
読むとなれば is conditional; "if you are in the situation you read~ (= if you have to read~)".
読むとなれば is conditional; "if you are in the situation you read~ (= if you have to read~)".
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
Thanks!
- 15 Mar 2002
- 16,758
- 2,298
You need to be more diligent in paying attention to verb tenses.
読む read
読める can read
Not being careful about verb tenses is frequently a cause of your errors.
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
てめえもなに青くせぇガキみえてな事言ってやがる
What does that mean?
I can understand 青くせぇガキ means ''spoiled brat''
みえてな means ''doesn't look after''(?)
What does that mean?
I can understand 青くせぇガキ means ''spoiled brat''
みえてな means ''doesn't look after''(?)
- 22 Feb 2008
- 18,266
- 4,926
みえてな is a slang of みたいな.
青くせぇ/青くさい means "adolescent (contemptuous nuance)".
青くせぇ/青くさい means "adolescent (contemptuous nuance)".
- 31 Jul 2014
- 179
- 2
Didn't he also misspell みてえな as みえてな?
- 22 Feb 2008
- 18,266
- 4,926
Ooops, I didn't notice that typo at all!
Yeah, it must be みてえな. (I assumed it's written as みてえな with no question, so I copied and pasted it.)
Yeah, it must be みてえな. (I assumed it's written as みてえな with no question, so I copied and pasted it.)- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
Just checked. Yeah sorry for the typo.
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
前回の邪神ドラゴとの戦いで神の鳥はその聖なる翼をふるいました
What is ふるいました? ''Display''?
What is ふるいました? ''Display''?
- 15 Mar 2002
- 16,758
- 2,298
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
I can't get the meaning of 翼を振う. To translate ''swing wing'' is weird.
- 15 Mar 2002
- 16,758
- 2,298
In English we say "flap" for wings.
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
Totally agree!
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
ナシ！ 今の提案はナシよん！
What is ナシ?
What is ナシ?
- 22 Feb 2008
- 18,266
- 4,926
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
I can't understand it. What is ナシよん?
- 22 Feb 2008
- 18,266
- 4,926
なしよ/なしだよ
- 3 Jan 2012
- 842
- 9
I think I know now. Thanks.
