Need a word or phrase translated?

[Toritoribe]

Let's see if I understood this right in the last two parts.

おっ、買ってくれるのかい。
まいどあり・・・ってお客さん、お金足りませんよ。
いくら儲けを考えてない私でも
生活はかかってんで勘弁してくださいよ。

I think the seller is saying that, in a very free translation, that even though his goal isn't mainly profit, he needs to make a living and asks the customer to be understanding about this.

It's hard for me to translate it literally but in a more literal translation I think it would be:
"no matter how little I'm thinking of profit, because my livelihood depends/hangs on it please have forebearance/be forgiving".
Is this okay?
Although the way the sentence いくら儲けを考えてない私でも is constructed, I think a true literal translation to english is impossible. It has to be reconstructed freely in english to carry the meaning across. I might be wrong.

Also, the かっかてんで, when not contracted like that would it be かかっているので?

My attempt about a literal translation of いくら儲けを考えてない私でも
even though I am a person who doesn't care much about profit,

You are all correct about your interpretations.

 

[Macrobiotic]

Thanks a lot.

Sorry for keeping the questions coming but I post things here directly as they show up in my reciting and reading practice, so I won't forget. Somedays there are no things I can't figure out, other days there are several.

This is a text which has eluded me despite reading it many times. There's something I have missed. 1. Who is supposed to be making these "interpreted as discriminatory remarks" and "excessively abusive remarks", and 2. to who or for what will these comments be an obstacle after the problem is understood by the whole world? And 3., who is supposed to be careful about what when being remarked to/it is remarked in a foreign language?

I have mistranslated some part because this just doesn't make sense to me.

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[Toritoribe]

1) 3)
the readers of the site

2)
These comments can be an obstacle on the way of the problem being understood by the whole world.

 

[Macrobiotic]

Thanks again.

 

[PunkyDuchess]

Hello again! I'm in dire need of help...I'm having a lot of trouble understanding an excerpt in Japanese:
「ときに神となり仏の心を語りながら」

I'm having a hard time understanding what that 神となり仏…
Does it mean the god of Buddha? ...

 

[Zellff8]

Let's see if I understood this right in the last two parts.

おっ、買ってくれるのかい。
まいどあり・・・ってお客さん、お金足りませんよ。
いくら儲けを考えてない私でも
生活はかかってんで勘弁してくださいよ。

I think the seller is saying that, in a very free translation, that even though his goal isn't mainly profit, he needs to make a living and asks the customer to be understanding about this.

It's hard for me to translate it literally but in a more literal translation I think it would be:
"no matter how little I'm thinking of profit, because my livelihood depends/hangs on it please have forebearance/be forgiving".
Is this okay?
Although the way the sentence いくら儲けを考えてない私でも is constructed, I think a true literal translation to english is impossible. It has to be reconstructed freely in english to carry the meaning across. I might be wrong.

Also, the かっかてんで, when not contracted like that would it be かかっているので?

The sentence is translatable, keep in mind what modifies what:
いくら儲けを考えてない私でも：even I (to me), who doesnt think of profit,...
The other workaround would be:
私はいくら儲けを考えなくても：no matter how little I think of profit

Yes, かかってんで comes from かかる (costs).
生活は（金が）かかっているので...

 

[Macrobiotic]

Thanks for examples and for specifying the meaning of the verb かかる in this context. Learning that it has a "cost" meaning here is logical and makes the sentence perfectly clear.

About the first sentence. What I thought made a literal translation hard was the いくら. I would have translated it as in your first example if it just said 儲けを考えてない私でも. Because of the いくら I read a literal translation more like "no matter how not thinking of profit me it is" which doesn't work in english. So the relation between words must be altered I thought. This is not the case in your second workaround example, which has a true literal translation in my eyes at least.

If I had to make a translation I would, in order to get the いくらでも across, have rewritten it as something like "regardless how little I think of profit" or "no matter how little I may think of profit" or something, which is not a literal translation I think since words are changed and added to preserve the "no matter how little/how much" meaning.

This all however is based on my interpretation of いくら and its relation to the other words, which may be completely wrong and destroy my entire reasoning. I'm just explaining why I thought a true literal translation to a germanic language wasn't possible. Not saying I know this or that my initial assumptions are right.

 

[Toritoribe]

Hello again! I'm in dire need of help...I'm having a lot of trouble understanding an excerpt in Japanese:
「ときに神となり仏の心を語りながら」

I'm having a hard time understanding what that 神となり仏…
Does it mean the god of Buddha? ...

ときに神となり、仏の心を語りながら

Does this make sense?

 

[Macrobiotic]

I guess this will be my question of the day. The verb used here, is it another verb similar to 来る, is it a contracted form I can't figure out, is it Kansai dialect or olden speech or something? I'm reading the sentence as "young one, from where did you come?" but this way of saying 来た is unfamiliar to me.

お若いの、どこから来なすった？

 

[Mike Cash]

ときに神 となり 、仏の心を語りながら

Does this make sense?

Spaces may help a bit.

 

[PunkyDuchess]

Yes, a bit. Thank you! I think it means something like 'during a time when gods came together, Buddha's heart was spoken...'?

 

[Toritoribe]

I guess this will be my question of the day. The verb used here, is it another verb similar to 来る, is it a contracted form I can't figure out, is it Kansai dialect or olden speech or something? I'm reading the sentence as "young one, from where did you come?" but this way of saying 来た is unfamiliar to me.

お若いの、どこから来なすった？

来なすった is a variation of 来なさった; the past of "来る + an honorific subsidiary verb なさる". As in the explanation I quoted below, 来なさる sounds oldish.

「て」「た」に続くときは「なすって」「なすった」の形も用いられる。動詞の連用形に付くときは、命令の言い方以外はやや古風なひびきをもつ。「どこへ行き―・る」

「なさる」の検索結果 - Yahoo!辞書

Yes, a bit. Thank you! I think it means something like 'during a time when gods came together, Buddha's heart was spoken...'?

sometimes the subject becomes/became a God, talking about Buddha's heart/mercy...

 

[Macrobiotic]

Thanks Toritoribe.

I don't know what would be a good translation for this really.

死なない程度に頑張りな。

To me, very literally translated, it looks like "persist to an extent where there is not death" (said as an imperative to someone), which I interpret as a way of saying "do your best not to die" "don't get yourself killed" etc or something.

 

[Mike Cash]

"Do your best, but don't kill yourself (doing it)".

 

[Macrobiotic]

Thanks Mike Cash.

 

[Toritoribe]

That's 死なない程度 "to the extent that you don't die", not 死がない程度 "there is not death".

 

[Macrobiotic]

Thanks Toritoribe. Both replies were very helpful. How stupid of me, of course 死ぬ is a verb, and there wasn't even a が or の particle in that sentence. Looks like a small thing at first but that was a pretty major thinking error by me.

 

[JohnSan]

Hello, everyone. I'll separate my post in two different sections.

1- I've recently nicknamed myself "Crystalline" on a few online games and YouTube, which got me thinking. Since it is a nickname and an actual word used in Japan, would it be 水晶の or the Katakana version of the word? The latter would be something like this クリスタリヌ, I reckon? Not sure. Basically, should I use Katakana with nicknames or just hiragana and kanjii?

2- Another nickname I've adopted is "Japan Gamer" Would I need to use the hiragana and kanjii word or Katakana?

Thank you!

 

[Toritoribe]

1)
As I replied here, 水晶の is a translation for the adjective "crystalline", not for a name. It's really odd as a person's name.

2)
There is no common kanji word for "Gamer". It's usually written in katakana. 日本のゲーマー doesn't sound as a name, either.

 

[BakabonPapa]

1. 「水晶の」is adjective and using 「水晶の」without any following noun is strange, you should use 「水晶」for the nickname, or if you use Katakana, 「クリスタライン」seems to be natural.

2."Japan Gamer" is no problem but if you want to use Japanese word, you should say 「ジャパンゲーマー」or「日本ゲーマー」.

 

[Juan007]

So, I can not do anything with the Japanese language, but have a big interrest in the (medieval) history of Japan. I have here a map about the Nanboku-chō period (I suppose) and I would really like to be able to read it.
Is there somebody willing to translate all elements on this map?
It seems like a hell of a job, but you would make me VERY happy!

So... guys, I truly understand if nobody here has got the patience to translate the map for me. Does anybody know a way for me to get it translated? Maybe some other forum where some fanatic translaters want to take a shot for me?

 

[JohnSan]

So definitely the Katakana version for "Crystalline" (クリスタライン) and as for "Japan Gamer", should I stick with 日本のゲーマー ?

Thank you!

 

[Mike Cash]

Nobody else there is going to know the difference anyway, so what does it matter?

 

[Mike Cash]

So... guys, I truly understand if nobody here has got the patience to translate the map for me. Does anybody know a way for me to get it translated? Maybe some other forum where some fanatic translaters want to take a shot for me?

Do you have any clue how insulting that is? Or how self-centered you are and how large your sense of entitlement is?

This is the "Learning Japanese" section....something you're not doing. And this is a thread helping with translating a "word or phrase". You want someone to sit down and do absolute drudge work translating a map just to humor a total stranger in his hobby for a few idle moments in return for him thinking him a really swell guy.

And when we don't fall all over ourselves in a mad rush to accommodate your ridiculous and outlandish request you attribute it to A CHARACTER FLAW on our part?!?!

Are you out of your ****** mind?

 

[nekojita]

You're either vastly underestimating the time it would take (to translate/transliterate and also format into some semblance of order so that you could locate the translated words on the map - or do you expect someone to edit the image to add the romaji in?) or vastly overestimating the level of motivation (not patience) any random person on the internet is likely to have to expend time on assisting you for no return other than maybe warm fuzzies. Probably both.

Suggestion: Google Maps has both romaji and kanji on it for Japan (sometimes you need to zoom in a bit). A number of the places on the map still exist, so some of them you could find that way. Then try googling for old province names, or something similar - you might be find something with both kanji and romaji on some obscure website... List of provinces of Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for example. You don't need to know Japanese to do that, just a little patience. :emoji_wink:

If you put a little effort in, you could probably figure out most of the place names on that map and learn quite a bit about Japanese geography/history at the same time.