9.0 Earthquake/Tsunami/Fukushima
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Trollhattan
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- 17 May 2009
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I just received an e-mail from one Japanese Facebook friend lives in Okayama Prefecture,she wrote [ Though water and food are sent from West Japan,It is insufficient.There seem to be a lot of children who died of hunger ].
Can anyone living in Japan confirm this info ?
No emergency ( within 24-48 hours ) airlift fooddrops in Sendai and other devastated areas ~ Why such incompatency of Kan administration ??
Can anyone living in Japan confirm this info ?
No emergency ( within 24-48 hours ) airlift fooddrops in Sendai and other devastated areas ~ Why such incompatency of Kan administration ??
Jericho Desu
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Trollhattan
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- 17 May 2009
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Yes,elderly people and children.
Her exact words in Japanese [ 西日本からも水や食料を送っていますが、足りなくて、餓死した子供がたくさんいるそうです。]
I have read online news reports that onground Japanese rescue teams couldn't reach some remote villages ~ that's one possibility where kiddies starved
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According to National Police Agency, the number of dead in the shelters reached 22 on the morning of today, March 20(JST). They're all elderly people, and most of them were very sick patients.
Advertising Council Japan started on-airing a new TV commercial series いま私たちにできること "What we can do now", and says デマに惑わされないようにしましょう "Don't be misled by false rumors" in it.
Advertising Council Japan started on-airing a new TV commercial series いま私たちにできること "What we can do now", and says デマに惑わされないようにしましょう "Don't be misled by false rumors" in it.
undrentide
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- 18 Jan 2006
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Please tell your Facebook friend that the information she gave is not correct and not to spread it around.Yes,elderly people and children.
Her exact words in Japanese [ ﾂ青ｼ窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ窶堙?ﾂ絶?ｦ窶堙｢ﾂ食窶板ｿ窶堙ｰ窶倪?披?堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷ窶堋ｪﾂ、窶伉ｫ窶堙ｨ窶堙遺?堋ｭ窶堙?、窶ｰﾃｬﾅｽ竄ｬ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾅｽq窶ｹﾅｸ窶堋ｪ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堋ｻ窶堋､窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。]
I have read online news reports that onground Japanese rescue teams couldn't reach some remote villages ~ that's one possibility where kiddies starved
Trollhattan
Swedish town of trolls
- 17 May 2009
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Ok ~ she's a young lady in her early 20's also believes HAARP conspiracy that it can manipulate weathers to destroy any nation as it wishes.
MiaoMiaotang
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Go~!Our well trainned rescue team! Just rescue those Japanese people in the earthquake area as much as we can !!
Tokugawa Ieyasu
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The Fukushima 50 are real heroes.....they are sacrificing their health and possibly their lives for Japan.
Nuala
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Some people will say anything for a few cheap laughs. No matter how deplorable what they are saying is. I suggest nobody pay this person any heed. xenom1 will be banned soon enough. Mods can delete my posts in relation to xenom1's if they want, permission is given if needed.
Nuala
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You don't have any rights, not over the internet. You don't join a Japan related forum, mock a natural disaster that's befallen the country, and then babble about how they deserved it. I don't even care what you're doing. You'll be banned before I wake up in the morning.
Have a good night, xenom1. Enjoy your idiocy while you can.
- 19 May 2007
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Wow, you can't even write English correctly. Could you give me your bank account number, as I regularly donate money to people who have no hope in life.
- 15 Mar 2002
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The facts are bad enough without resorting to exaggeration. "Millions" have not been displaced.
Those of us who have lived in Japan long enough to have watched this sort of thing play out before (on various smaller scales) are not surprised in the least; this is pretty much par for the course.
Allow me to cut-n-paste a couple of posts I made elsewhere, as it will save me some typing:
I stopped off at MOS Burger for a couple of chili dogs this evening and since I was alone I picked up the Yomiuri for today (19th) and read the articles on the inside back page. Disheartening and depressing news, indeed.
The largest article interviewed a rescue team from Kobe the members of which had experience from the '95 quake there. They said in terms of rescue and body recovery efforts the two don't even compare. In Kobe about 80% of people died from being crushed or something else related to having a building fall on them. Finding the bodies wasn't a problem; they just looked inside the rubble. This time about 90% of the people drowned and most suffered multiple post-mortem broken bones, likely as a result of being smashed by debris. The force of the water is likened to being run over by a four ton truck going 40kph, with a force of about 50 tons per square meter. Identification of the bodies is proving extremely difficult, with only about 3% having been identified in one prefecture and 6% in another. Fuel shortages and destroyed roads are making it almost impossible for survivors to come identify bodies. Police are posting descriptions of clothing and items carried in the hopes it will ring a bell with someone. They're also taking fingerprints, dental photos, and DNA samples. Fingerprints will be useless in most cases, as so few people have any on file anywhere to compare them against. Dental photos will be of limited use, as matching up thousands of photos of people whom no one has the slightest idea who they are would necessitate going through all records (at least of the same gender and approximate age). And it also depends on the records having survived the tsunami. I suspect that in most cases it is going to come down to DNA matching.
Many of the bodies, especially of the elderly, are said to have been found wearing multiple layers of clothes and carrying things such as their inkan, bank books, insurance card, photo albums. Many were also found with backpacks containing their emergency evacuation packs from their homes. Based on this it is speculated that it wasn't a case of people failing to try to get away but there just simply not having been enough time between the warning and the tsunami striking to reach a safe area.
The rescuers say that digging through rubble and muck is turning up neither survivors nor victims and they suspect that most of the missing were swept out to sea. The group related a story of being asked to search for a woman in her 70s last known to be on the second floor of her home. When they finally figured out where the home had been they then had to start the search for where it is now. They found it about 800 meters away, but there was no sign of the woman. This sort of thing is complicating identification of victims, as the location where a body was found offers no clue for narrowing down the possibilities of who the person may have been.
A hospital in Fukushima upon receipt of evacuation orders just went off and abandoned 98 bed-ridden patients (out of 300 total patients). They were subsequently found by Self-Defense Force personnel.
I heard on NHK Radio a report of a hospital with a normal staff of about 190 which was down to a mere 17 left who hadn't fled the coop and abandoned their bed-ridden patients. They're having trouble working up materials on the patients to send along with them when they finally get transported to a hospital in a safer location....because their doctors evacuated and abandoned them.
On Tuesday I heard an interview with a man who had made his way down from a town where there were about 700 people taking shelter with no food, no water, no fuel, and an extreme shortage of blankets. Three days after the quake and they had yet to have any contact whatsoever with any rescue group or government agency. Yesterday I heard a report of a place that after one week had just received medicine for the first time. And I also heard that most of the disaster relief medical teams that came from areas around Japan had left the area and gone back home already.
Reports of the number of missing which are on the low end should be taken with a bucket of salt. Those numbers are based on missing person reports having been filed. When entire families/communities have been wiped out, you have to expect a certain number of cases where there is no surviving relative left to file a report. The higher numbers are probably based on population numbers minus confirmed survivors and the number of bodies found in a town. Just because a body ends up in one town doesn't mean it started there, though.
I just get sick of seeing remarks from people outside Japan expressing admiration for the wonderful disaster preparedness in Japan. Those of us who have lived here for a while and have seen the response to a number of disasters know that it is a total fuster cluck each and every time, with lessons poorly learned and poorly implemented from previous experiences. The government and media do a great job of making things look great each time, at least right at first. And we all know that right at first is about the only time anybody overseas is paying any attention to the details anyway. So I guess it is to be expected that the undeserved reputation for outstanding disaster preparedness persists.
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Nuala
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Are you sure, Mike Cash? You have to understand that if that is the case, I'm not purposely exaggerating for shock value. That would be very poor taste on my part. I know the area affected by the tsunami, earthquake, and nuclear reactor is fairly large, and that Sendai itself is a very populated area that was heavily damaged. I can't find an exact number of displaced people right now to correct myself with.
Your frustration with how it is being covered overseas is interesting too. I'm paying attention to the details as much as I can, alright? I get one number one day, the number has gone up or down the day after. I do my best to keep informed on the what's going on. Thank you for sharing your thoughts though, you should do that more.
undrentide
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- 18 Jan 2006
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For your information:
The population of Sendai city, Miyagi prefecture as of 1st March 2011 is 1,046,654, and it is the coastal areas of Sendai that were heavily damaged.
According to the latest news, 8,450 dead, 12,931 missing by the earthqauke and ensuing tsunami.
Approx. 350,000 are displaced: 142,000 in Miyagi, 132,000 in Fukushima, 47,000 in Iwate.
Approx. 353,000 in 15 prefectures in total including those evacuated from Miyagi/Fukushima and accepted in Gunma, Saitama, Niigata.
http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=soc&rel=j7&k=2011032000080&j4
(This is the news article of this evening. Sorry I cannot find the data in English.)
Nuala
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Thanks so much, undrentide. I appreciate it very much. It gets difficult to keep track of information when all the news outlets report different statistics, information gets pushed back as other information is released, and it becomes a clusterfrack of information that gets hard to work your way through. Yes, there are some fact sheets available, but I'm not sure what to think of those.
- 15 Mar 2002
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Yes, I'm sure. Otherwise I wouldn't have said it. I didn't mean to imply that you would exaggerate for shock value. It is just that we humans sometimes throw large numbers around as a sort idiomatic figure of speech, often without slowing down to consider their accuracy. As undrentide mentioned, the number is somewhere around 350,000, which is down considerably from earlier reports of around 450,000. The numbers are updated throughout the day and are widely reported. I have spent many hours listening to NHK Radio coverage and they update the figures at least hourly. Television has been featuring a continuous crawl giving the numbers, as well as information regarding train service, upcoming blackout areas, etc.
My comment wasn't intended to express frustration with how it is being covered overseas, as I have no way of knowing how it is being covered overseas. My comment had to do with the fact that for most people outside Japan this is merely the sensation de jour and that when the media circus packs up and moves to whatever comes next Japan's current problem will fade from consciousness as people eagerly follow the calliope to the next town, figuratively speaking. Japan will still be dealing with both the short-term and the long-term effects of this disaster after the world has gotten tired of hearing about it and shifted its attention elsewhere.
Elizabeth
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- 22 Apr 2003
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Nothing compared to the medical nightmare up north but I can testify as to the slow pace at which an event unfolds also being taken in at an evacuation shelter the night it happened. We were at caught on a train overpass near the Saijidai (埼玉自動車大学校) designated evacuation center which very fortunately happened to be an area with electricity, running water and absolutely no discernible wreckage or infrastructure damage. The earthquake there, north of Omiya, was unexceptional and still there were no stockpiles of emergency provisions or even a step stair for getting down. It took close to 7 hours before getting word that the power was not going to be restored and another 3 to get together the minimal service blankets, bottled water and rice cakes.
Something on the order of 50 police and JR officials standing around looking extremely concerned at passengers struggling to disembark a steep embankment on a slide raft. There was also very little in the way of food or water rations at the shelter and certainly no evidence of an upgrading of response plans from the last disaster.
Not surprising when citizens give such wide berth for an orderly, calm and disciplined response but I still felt terrible for the kids and older folks.
The only fellow evacuee angry enough to question who was in charge was a Japanese ex-pat straight back from Los Angeles. The expression of shock on the faces at "command headquarters" was priceless. 
EmperorHirohito
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Over the weekend one news story stood out abit more than alot of the others. It was about the finding and rescue of the two people in Ishinomaki, Miyagi prefecture. The lady who was rescued is believed to be 80 years old and her grandson 16. They were found nine days after the eathquake/tsunami struck, and apparently survived by eating Yogurt and other food stuffs.
It is very nice that now and then a really positive news story comes to light, and that it can give hope to others.
It is very nice that now and then a really positive news story comes to light, and that it can give hope to others.
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Millions have been affected.
At this time, only about a third of a million have been displaced/evacuated.
See these links.
WHO Western Pacific | World Health Organization
At this time, only about a third of a million have been displaced/evacuated.
See these links.
WHO Western Pacific | World Health Organization
Elizabeth
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- 22 Apr 2003
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It isn't a translation of "seems" or "appears." Your friend simply is repeating what she has (supposedly) "heard" secondhand. I don't doubt there were children that died under the rubble but it is because they were not found in time, not out of a desperate shortage of food aid in the evacuation centers. That is a huge difference.Yes,elderly people and children.
Her exact words in Japanese [ 西日本からも水や食料を送っていますが、足りなくて、餓死した子供がたくさんいるそうです。]
I have read online news reports that onground Japanese rescue teams couldn't reach some remote villages ~ that's one possibility where kiddies starved
- 15 Mar 2002
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There is enough food, but as a sign of just how totally unorganized and screwed up the distribution is: Yesterday on the news I saw a report from the RED CROSS hospital that they had only enough food to last them through the next day. This 10 days after the disaster. Not some small group of survivors located back in the hills that folks can't get to.....the ****** RED CROSS hospital we're talking about here!!! Not a hospital where the Red Cross is going in and helping...a hospital which even under normal circumstances is operated by the Red Cross.
- 19 Jan 2005
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So true Mike. Ever since the attacks in Libya began Japan has all but been forgotten about in the news after a week of non-stop live coverage. All the anchors and big news people have gone home or over to Libya or, like FOX news, are reporting from Osaka, a "safe" distance away.Mike Cash said:
All we get now is that there is probably a major meltdown going on and reports of raised radiation levels. Nothing about the hardships going on and that will go on for months to come and nothing at all about the heroic Tokyo firemen and self defense force personnel who risked their lives to cool down the reactors and hook up power.
Thank goodness there are people streaming NHK live on the internet or we would get no news whatsoever.
