How do you know... ON/KUN and beyond

[Putrefaction]

Oh I see! One hiragana and tense mistake as always.

The woman behind じゅん → 電話する

I translated this to "There is a woman behind Jun using a telephone."
じゅんさんの後ろに電話している女の人がいます。

(Just to let you know, originally I dd not put the ga there, I just pasted it in).

Seeing as I probably got that wrong, "The woman using a telephone is behind Jun."
電話している女の人はじゅんさんの後ろにいます。

The girl infront of えり → 手紙を書く
The girl writing a letter is sitting in front of えり.

手紙を書いている女の子はえりさんの前にいます。

The man behind ちかこ → 音楽を聴く
The man listening to music is standing behind ちかこ.

音楽を聴いている男の人は千佳子さんの後ろにいます。

The girl sitting in front of えり is writing a letter.
The man standing behind ちかこ is listening to music.

Are these the same as what I have written?
Also, would you like to give me a few mada examples for me to work out?

Also, I really suck at listening comprehension. I'm going to try to work on it but there's nothing I can really do unless I talk with Japanese people...

 

[Toritoribe]

Are these the same as what I have written?

there is _ next to ~
_ is standing behind ~
_ is sitting in front of ~
_ is listening to music
_ is writing a letter

the man behind ちかこ
the man standing behind ちかこ
the man listening to music

the girl in front of えり
the girl sitting in front of えり
the girl writing a letter

Do you think these are all the same expressions?;-)

Also, would you like to give me a few mada examples for me to work out?

When I arrived at the station, the train wasn't there yet. (use the verb 来る for train)

Have you ever eaten sushi?
No, I haven't (eaten it) yet.
(This might be a bit advanced, the expression for "experience.")

Also, I really suck at listening comprehension. I'm going to try to work on it but there's nothing I can really do unless I talk with Japanese people...

How about this?
https://jref.com/forum/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2009-5-31&e=74&c=1
I haven't joined there yet, though.:emoji_blush:

 

[Putrefaction]

Do you think these are all the same expressions?

They are not! I guess I'll get to work on these. Hopefully they'll be correct!

there is _ next to ~

I chose to make it, there is a person smoking tobacco next to Eri.
たばこを吸っている人がえりさんのとなりにいます。

_ is standing behind ~

The woman using a telephone is standing behind Jun.
電話をかけている女の人はじゅんさんの前です。
Now for this one, I used は and I did not put de as a location marker. I consulted my textbook for this one, all the way back to Chapter 4! I think this is correct.

_ is sitting in front of ~

The person listening to music is in front of Chikako.
音楽を聞いている人の前にはちかこさんです。(ni means imasu, I think, but I wasn't sure if this is the right structure at all!)

_ is listening to music

The person behind Chikako is listening to music.
ちかこさんの後ろに音楽を聞いている人がいます。 (instead of ni, I could have used de, right? and then I'd just put ha desu at the end?)

_ is writing a letter

手紙を書いて女の人はじゅんさんとちかこさんの間です。


I'm respectfully skipping the other ones until I know I've gotten these right. It also seems I wrote some things at the top, are those structures and grammarisms correct too?

When I arrived at the station, the train wasn't there yet. (use the verb 来る for train)

Have you ever eaten sushi?
No, I haven't (eaten it) yet.

I don't know the word for arrive, unfortunately. I changed the sentence to, "I waited at the station, the train wasn't there yet."
I also literally translated it to say I haven't eaten it yet.

駅で待った、まだ電車は来ていません。

もうすしをたべました？
いいえ、まだそれをたべていません。

I double checked these when typing and sending so they should be good...if not, I fail!

I also finished Chapter 10 completely, I have to review the chapter's end, but would you like to see the stuff that I did for it?

 

[Toritoribe]

Uh, the key point of this practice is "qualifying nouns with adjectival clauses/phrases," isn't it?;-)

There is a person smoking tobacco next to Eri.
たばこを吸っている人がえりさんのとなりにいます。

This is completely correct. So, how about the following one?

The person behind Chikako is listening to music.
ちかこさんの後ろに音楽を聞いている人がいます。

Also,
to stand: 立つ
to sit: 座る

I don't know the word for arrive, unfortunately.

from WWWJDIC

まだ電車は来ていません

tense of "wasn't there"

 

[Putrefaction]

It was, I'm not still 100% on that...and I'm still not sure if I did everything correctly! I also got the two examples wrong? Damn...


Also, WWWJDIC is very confusing for me to browse.

駅に着いた、まだ電車は来ていませんでした.

I also had other questions and if you could make sure everything I did until now is correct I would appreciate it! I need to make sure I have a good foundation. I'm almost done reviewing Chapter 10, do you mind seeing my work for Chapter 10 so far?

 

[Kirakira1232]

It was, I'm not still 100% on that...and I'm still not sure if I did everything correctly! I also got the two examples wrong? Damn...


Also, WWWJDIC is very confusing for me to browse.

駅に着いた、まだ電車は来ていませんでした.

I also had other questions and if you could make sure everything I did until now is correct I would appreciate it! I need to make sure I have a good foundation. I'm almost done reviewing Chapter 10, do you mind seeing my work for Chapter 10 so far?

Just one niggling little thing. Do you know the ~tara conditional yet? This might be a bit more advanced but attaching the ら to the plain perfect verb turns into a "when" or an "if" statement. This is a little complicated if you have not encountered this form in your textbook yet.

駅に着いたら電車はまだ来ていません。
When I arrived at the station, the train had not come yet

Dont worry if you hadnt seen this form yet

 

[Putrefaction]

I have actually not seen the tara verb, we just finished tsumori in the textbook as well as naru. I'm excited to show you the stuff I did but I want to make sure all my 9 stuff is good!

 

[Toritoribe]

The man smoking tobacco is sitting next to Eri.
たばこを吸っている男の人がえりさんのとなりに座っています。

So, how about this?
The girl sitting in front of Eri is writing a letter.
The man listening to music is standing behind Chikako who is eating donuts.

駅に着いた、まだ電車は来ていませんでした.

You can also say 駅に着いたとき、まだ電車は来ていませんでした.

I'm almost done reviewing Chapter 10, do you mind seeing my work for Chapter 10 so far?

Sure!:

 

[Putrefaction]

The girl sitting in front of Eri is writing a letter.

手紙を書いて女の子はえりさんの前にいます。
Pretty sure I got that right!

The man listening to music is standing behind Chikako who is eating donuts.

This one was more complicated. Not sure if I did it right.
音楽を聞いている男の人はちかこさんの後ろにいて、ちかこさんはdonutsを食べています。
...But now that I think about it...
音楽を聞いている男の人はdonutsを食べている人, ちかこさん. Though, not sure...
---
I am very very glad you want to see my Chapter 10. Prepare for a whole slew of images and text!
Let me start off with a question if I may.

Why is it in the past tense if it's becoming? I can understand if it was narimasu, no problem, but narimashita doesn't go good in my head.

東京のほうが大阪より大きです。
日曜日のほうが月曜日より楽しいです。
スボックさんのほうがカーくさんよりあたまがいいです。
ソーカとベースボールとどちらのほうが好きですか？
ベースボールのほうが好きです。(For this one, I didn't feel like putting soccer yori.)

中国語と韓国語と日本語の中で、どれが一番難しいですか？
韓国語が一番難しいです。
肉と魚と野菜の中で、どれが一番好きですか？
肉と魚を食べないから野菜が一番好きです。

この時計は高い！安いのください。
私のコンピュータのほうがあなたのより遅いと思います。
どんな映画が好き？
こわいの(が?)好き。
この辞書は古い。新しいのに買いに行くつもりです。(I made a slight modification.)
赤いセーターのほうが緑のより好きだと思います。 (Changed sentence, I think I like the red sweater more than the green one.)
---I had a general thought pass through my head based on "from, until".
何時日本語を勉強した.
十時から今(六時)まで勉強する。
Is it する or した, the person asking doesn't know that I was doing it until now. I would have also put しています。I have a funny feeling it's した...
---

午後(に)、映画を見に行くつもりです。
この夜、出かけないつもりです。
日本の会社を務める/勤める/働くつもりです。<- Not sure which one, still. I'll have to go over the thread and review which to use. If the particle isn't wrong, the sentence should make sense...hopefully.
→結婚していないつもりです？<- I hope I did this right...
来週試験があるから、今週勉強するつもりです。

今晩、第10課の練習して、第11課を始めて、JREFのフォールムへ行くつもりです。(初めて？) (not 100% sure of this is the right "go", maybe visit?)
Skipping two.
来学期、事間がないから、一人で日本語を勉強するつもりです。(Is this the right use of jikan, or not having time?)
夏休みのほうが好き。夏休みには、何もしないつもりです。(Not sure if this is right use of suru.)

今朝部屋を掃除したから、部屋はきれくなりました。
昨夜余り寝なかったから、眠くなりました。
たくさん練習したから、とても日本語の話すのが上手になりました。
子供が好きだから、先生になるつもりです。

Okay, I have double checked. Barring the errors undrentide corrected below for the first example, let's see how I did!

 

[undrentide]

"The girl sitting in front of Eri is writing a letter."
ﾅｽﾃｨﾅｽ窶?窶堙ｰﾂ鞘?倪?堋｢窶堙?鞘?披?堙固ｽq窶堙坂?堋ｦ窶堙ｨ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙娯?楼窶堙俄?堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。
Pretty sure I got that right!

The girl [sitting in front of Eri] is writing a letter.
The part in [ ] is modifiying the girl.

So the main "body" of this sentence is
The girl is writing a letter.
ﾂ鞘?披?堙固ｽq窶堙最ｽﾃｨﾅｽ窶?窶堙ｰﾂ鞘?倪?堋｢窶堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

Then you can add the modification
[窶堋ｦ窶堙ｨ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙娯?楼窶堙俄?堋ｷ窶堙ｭ窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ]ﾂ鞘?披?堙固ｽq窶堙最ｽﾃｨﾅｽ窶?窶堙ｰﾂ鞘?倪?堋｢窶堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

[ﾅｽﾃｨﾅｽ窶?窶堙ｰﾂ鞘?倪?堋｢窶堙ЪCOLOR=Red]窶堋｢窶堙ｩ[/COLOR]]ﾂ鞘?披?堙固ｽq窶堙坂?堋ｦ窶堙ｨ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙娯?楼窶堙俄?堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。
The girl [writing a letter] is in front of Eri.

Now can you see the difference?

"The man listening to music is standing behind Chikako who is eating donuts."
This one was more complicated. Not sure if I did it right.
窶ｰﾂｹﾅ?y窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾂｷ窶堋｢窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶冕窶堙個人窶堙坂?堋ｿ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｱ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙固津｣窶堙ｫ窶堙俄?堋｢窶堙?、窶堋ｿ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｱ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙硬onuts窶堙ｰﾂ食窶堙冷?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。
...But now that I think about it...
窶ｰﾂｹﾅ?y窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾂｷ窶堋｢窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶冕窶堙個人窶堙硬onuts窶堙ｰﾂ食窶堙冷?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩﾂ人, 窶堋ｿ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｱ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ. Though, not sure...

The man
[listening to music] is standing behind Chikako [who is eating donuts].
Again, [ ] part is modifying its preceeding noun.

So the core of this sentence is
The man is standing behind Chikako.
窶冕窶堙個人窶堙坂?堋ｿ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｱ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙固津｣窶堙ｫ窶堙俄?板ｧ窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

Then you can add modification for each (the man, Chikako)
[窶ｰﾂｹﾅ?y窶堙ｰ窶卍ｮ窶堋｢窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ]窶冕窶堙個人窶堙梗ﾆ檀ﾂーﾆ段ﾆ団窶堙ｰﾂ食窶堙冷?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ]窶堋ｿ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｱ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙固津｣窶堙ｫ窶堙俄?板ｧ窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

Does it make sense?

 

[Putrefaction]

Shoot, I forgot to put the iru in the first one, yes, I get it!

As for the second one, 音楽を聴いている男の人はドーナツを食べているちかこさんの後ろに立っています certainly makes more sense than my second one. I get each part, as well. I also missed a good half of the sentence. :\ Thanks undrentide! Rep for you when I can give some. I am also reviewing the newest stuff I posted.

Assuming I get a good portion of 10 right, I have also finished Chapter 11. I am going to review it before starting the excersizes, it was not very difficult, just less easy to pile on.

 

[undrentide]

窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙娯?｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｪﾅ?y窶堋ｵ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。
Studying the Japanese language is fun now (though it was like torture before).
窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙娯?｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｪﾂ好窶堋ｫ窶堙俄?堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。
I have grown fond of stuyding the Japanese language.

Why is it in the past tense if it's becoming? I can understand if it was narimasu, no problem, but narimashita doesn't go good in my head.

ﾂ〜窶堋ｽ is usually explained as "past tense" but strictly speaking, Japanese language does not really have tense such as past, present and future. I think there're only two, completed and not completed. (Of course we do no have the concept of past/present/future and past is one of the forms of completion.)

窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙娯?｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｪﾅ?y窶堋ｵ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。 can be also written as Studying the Japanese language has grown a fun.
窶堙遺?堙ｩ means change here (same as "become") and if this change has not happened yet, studying Japanese is not fun yet, maybe it still is a torture.
Studying Japanese was like a torture, but for some reasons it changed to something better, and after this change it is fun.

Tokyo is larger than Osaka.
窶愬停?ｹﾅｾ窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶佚･ﾂ催｣窶堙ｦ窶堙ｨ窶佚･窶堋ｫ窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

Sundays are more fun than Mondays.
窶愿ｺ窶破窶愿ｺ窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪﾅ椎ｽ窶破窶愿ｺ窶堙ｦ窶堙ｨﾅ?y窶堋ｵ窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

Spock is smarter than Kirk.
ﾆ湛ﾆ竹ﾆ鍛ﾆ誰窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪﾆ谷ﾂーﾆ誰窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙ｦ窶堙ｨ窶堋?窶堋ｽ窶堙懌?堋ｪ窶堋｢窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

Q: Soccer and baseball, which do you like better?
A: I like baseball better.
ﾆ探ﾆ鍛ﾆ谷ﾂー窶堙?COLOR=Red]窶禿ｬ窶ｹ窶ｦ[/COLOR]窶堙?COLOR=RoyalBlue]ﾂ（窶堙??堙債）[/COLOR]窶堙??堋ｿ窶堙ｧ窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪﾂ好窶堋ｫ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？
窶禿ｬ窶ｹ窶ｦ窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪﾂ好窶堋ｫ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。(For this one, I didn't feel like putting soccer yori.)

I see just a few minor errors, but basically you got it right.

Between Chinese, Korean, and Japanese, which is the most difficult?
The Korean language is the most difficult.
Between meat, fish and vegetables, which do you like best?

窶吮??ﾂ坂?佛津ｪ窶堙??ﾃ伉坂?佛津ｪ窶堙??愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙娯?吮??窶堙?、窶堙??堙ｪ窶堋ｪﾋ?ｪ窶敕披?愿ｯ窶堋ｵ窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？
ﾅ?ﾃ伉坂?佛津ｪ窶堋ｪﾋ?ｪ窶敕披?愿ｯ窶堋ｵ窶堋｢窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶愿ｷ窶堙??ｹ窶ｺ窶堙??禿ｬﾂ催倪?堙娯?吮??窶堙?、窶堙??堙ｪ窶堋ｪﾋ?ｪ窶敕板好窶堋ｫ窶堙??堋ｷ窶堋ｩﾂ？
窶愿ｷ窶堙??ｹ窶ｺ窶堙梗/COLOR]ﾂ食窶堙冷?堙遺?堋｢窶堙娯?堙?/COLOR]窶禿ｬﾂ催倪?堋ｪﾋ?ｪ窶敕板好窶堋ｫ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

窶愿ｷ窶堙??ｹ窶ｺ窶堙ｰﾂ食窶堙冷?堙遺?堋｢ is not really wrong, you can use 窶堙ｰ as well.
But when comparing something, 窶堙 sounds more natural because 窶堙 is used to make contrast.
窶愿ｷ窶堙債食窶堙冷?堙遺?堋｢窶堋ｪ窶ｹ窶ｺ窶堙債食窶堙冷?堙ｩﾂ。ﾂ for example.

This clock is expensive. Give me a cheap one.
窶堋ｱ窶堙固ｽﾅｾﾅ致窶堙債坂?壺?堋｢ﾂ！ﾋ??窶堋｢窶堙啓COLOR=Red]窶堙ｰ

窶堋ｭ窶堋ｾ窶堋ｳ窶堋｢ﾂ。

My computer is slower than yours.
ﾅｽ窶樞?堙姑坦ﾆ停?愴痴ﾆ停?ｦﾂーﾆ耽窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶堋?窶堙遺?堋ｽ窶堙娯?堙ｦ窶堙ｨ窶凅窶堋｢ﾂ（窶堙?ｽv窶堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ）ﾂ。

What kind of movies do you like? - I like scary ones.
窶堙??堙ｱ窶堙遺?ｰf窶ｰﾃｦ窶堋ｪﾂ好窶堋ｫﾂ？窶堋ｱ窶堙ｭ窶堋｢窶堙啓COLOR=Red]窶堋ｪ

ﾂ好窶堋ｫﾂ。

This dictionary is old. I'll buy a new one.
窶堋ｱ窶堙固ｽﾂｫﾂ鞘?倪?堙最津??堋｢ﾂ。ﾂ新窶堋ｵ窶堋｢窶堙啓COLOR=Red]窶堙ｰ[/COLOR]窶敞停?堋｢窶堙可行窶堋ｭﾂ。(I made a slight modification.)

This red sweater is more expensive than the white one.
窶堋ｱ窶堙個静披?堋｢ﾆ短ﾂーﾆ耽ﾂー窶堙坂?昶?吮?堋｢窶堙娯?堙ｦ窶堙ｨﾂ坂?壺?堋｢ﾂ。

ﾂ静披?堋｢ﾆ短ﾂーﾆ耽ﾂー窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶氾寂?堙娯?堙ｦ窶堙ｨﾂ好窶堋ｫ窶堋ｾ窶堙?ｽv窶堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。 (I think I like the red sweater more than the green one.)

I assume the above is to learn one(s) = 窶堙個。
I think you did it well.

I had a general thought pass through my head based on "from, until".
窶ｰﾂｽﾅｽﾅｾ窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ.
ﾂ十ﾅｽﾅｾ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ債｡(ﾋ彁ﾅｽﾅｾ)窶堙懌?堙??｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩﾂ。
Is it 窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ or 窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ, the person asking doesn't know that I was doing it until now. I would have also put 窶堋ｵ窶堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

窶堋｢窶堙や?愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ？
When did you study Japanese?
窶ｰﾂｽﾅｽﾅｾﾅ?ﾃ披?愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ？
How many hours did you study Japanese?

ﾂ十ﾅｽﾅｾ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ債｡(ﾋ彁ﾅｽﾅｾ)窶堙懌?堙??｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩﾂ。
I study Japanese from 10:00 until 18:00 (or 6:00?).

Sorry but I do not see cleary what you tried to say.
What do you mean with 窶ｰﾂｽﾅｽﾅｾ?
If it meant 窶ｰﾂｽﾅｽﾅｾﾂ（窶堋｢窶堙 = when), then normally it is written in hiragana, presumably to avoid the confusion of 窶ｰﾂｽﾅｽﾅｾﾂ（窶堙遺?堙ｱ窶堋ｶ = what timeﾂ）.
If you meant the duration then you have to add ﾅ?ﾃ? 窶ｰﾂｽﾅｽﾅｾﾅ?ﾃ板（窶堙遺?堙ｱ窶堋ｶ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｱ = how many hours)

Is it 窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ or 窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ, the person asking doesn't know that I was doing it until now. I would have also put 窶堋ｵ窶堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

This question of yours confused me...
I think when one use a interrogative (when, where, who, what, why, how), it is the point of question. If the person is asking when/how long did you study Japanese, then he should know you did study Japanese. If he does not, then his first question should be "WHAT did you do (or WHAT were you doing)?". Then after you answer you were studying Japanese, he might ask "when" or "how long". Right?

And if you answer about the future (what you're going to do) or your daily habit (what you usually do), you use 窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ and if you're answering what you've alreayd done, then it is 窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ.

 

[Putrefaction]

Hmm, it seems I missed hiragana particle in the beginning. Dang, I thought I truly proofread it!

では

Why do you use de wa? I'm glad to see that the shortening of the sentence were good. As for some of the rest of the corrections I did get them before you posted! But your attention to it is amazing, thank you.

But when comparing something, は sounds more natural because は is used to make contrast.

Hmm, I'll keep this in mind. I remember reading it was ga, is this not a contrast as well?

Thanks for thinking I got the ___no down. I did miss the を particle a bit, I didn't know you also had to include it. Do you also include it for all other particles?

いつ日本語を勉強した？
When did you study Japanese?
何時間日本語を勉強した？
How many hours did you study Japanese?

十時から今(六時)まで勉強する。
I study Japanese from 10:00 until 18:00 (or 6:00?).

Sorry but I do not see cleary what you tried to say.
What do you mean with 何時?
If it meant 何時（いつ = when), then normally it is written in hiragana, presumably to avoid the confusion of 何時（なんじ = what time）.
If you meant the duration then you have to add 間. 何時間（なんじかん = how many hours)

My situation was someone walked into a room, saw me studying, and asked how long I studied for. I'd normally answer, either ____ hours, or "from x to x". Most likely, I wanted to ask いつ, the first question. I see what you mean about the nanjikan. That's another answer I'd give, in which case I guess I'd say hachijikan.

This question of yours confused me...

Basically, I had to stop to answer the question, right? So I was thinking, maybe I need to have it in the past tense. But, as usual, a single sentence clears up my jibber-jabbering:

And if you answer about the future (what you're going to do) or your daily habit (what you usually do), you use する and if you're answering what you've alreayd done, then it is した.

Can you give me one last question like the "The man listening to music is standing behind Chikako who is eating donuts."? I want to take a shot at it. Or two, one simple and one hard?
Definitely rep for you when I get the chance to

 

[Toritoribe]

窶堋ｱ窶堙娯?禿ｩﾂ、ﾂ出窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙娯?ｰﾃｯﾅｽﾃ絶?堙ｰ窶督ｱ窶堙溪?堙ｩ/窶ｹﾃ寂?堙溪?堙ｩ/窶慊ｭ窶堋ｭ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。<- Not sure which one, still. I'll have to go over the thread and review which to use. If the particle isn't wrong, the sentence should make sense...hopefully.
ﾂ?ｨﾅ停?ｹﾂ債･窶堋ｵ窶堙??堋｢窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ？<- I hope I did this right...

ﾂ債｡窶敕?ﾂ債｡窶禿ｩﾂ（窶堙債）ﾂ出窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。
窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙娯?ｰﾃｯﾅｽﾃ深COLOR="red"]窶堙俄?ｹﾃ寂?堙溪?堙ｩ[/COLOR]窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。/窶愿ｺ窶怒窶堙娯?ｰﾃｯﾅｽﾃ深COLOR="red"]窶堙??慊ｭ窶堋ｭ[/COLOR]窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。(窶督ｱ窶堙溪?堙ｩ means "to serve/act.")
ﾅ停?ｹﾂ債･窶堋ｵ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

窶藩??wﾅ?ﾃｺﾂ、ﾅｽ窶毒?ﾃ披?堋ｪ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、ﾋ?ｪﾂ人窶堙??愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

窶藩??wﾅ?ﾃｺ窶堙最ｽﾅｾﾅ?ﾃ納/COLOR]窶堋ｪ窶堙遺?堋｢窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、ﾋ?ｪﾂ人窶堙??愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩ窶堙や?堙?窶堙ｨ窶堙??堋ｷﾂ。

ﾂ債｡窶卍ｩ窶｢窶昶?ｰﾂｮ窶堙ｰ窶?ﾂ焦凪?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶｢窶昶?ｰﾂｮ窶堙坂?堋ｫ窶堙ｪ窶堋ｭ窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。
窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶氾ｻﾂ習窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶堙??堙??堙?窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙戸彙窶堋ｷ窶堙娯?堋ｪﾂ湘｣ﾅｽﾃｨ窶堙俄?堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。

ﾂ債｡窶卍ｩ窶｢窶昶?ｰﾂｮ窶堙ｰ窶?ﾂ焦凪?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶｢窶昶?ｰﾂｮ窶堙坂?堋ｫ窶堙ｪ窶堋｢窶堙閏/COLOR]窶堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。
窶堋ｽ窶堋ｭ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶氾ｻﾂ習窶堋ｵ窶堋ｽ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰﾋ彙窶堋ｷ窶堙娯?堋ｪ窶堙??堙??堙?ﾂ湘｣ﾅｽﾃｨ窶堙俄?堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽﾂ。

Can you give me one last question like the "The man listening to music is standing behind Chikako who is eating donuts."? I want to take a shot at it. Or two, one simple and one hard?

The woman using a telephone is standing behind Jun who is reading a newspaper.
The girl writing a letter is sitting between Yoshiko who is watching TV and Yutaka who is using a computer.

 

[Putrefaction]

I see, I should go over those "work" uses.

Alright, thanks! Here we go.

The woman using a telephone is standing behind Jun who is reading a newspaper.

電話をかけている女の人は新聞を読んでいるじゅんさんの後ろに立っています。

The girl writing a letter is sitting between Yoshiko who is watching TV and Yutaka who is using a computer.

手紙を書いている女の子はテレビを見ているヨシコさんとコンピュータを使っているユタカさんの間に座っています。

(I didn't realize that sit was a -u verb until a few minutes ago.)

I also forgot to ask you,

日本語を話すのがとても上手になりました。

Why is the totemo over there, is it because it's modifying the act of being good? I put it before Nihongo.


昨日、四時から十一時まだ働いた。
先先週と先週はとても忙しかった！
薬学の算と体育と元気の第11課を始めるから、今週のほうが忙しい。
今、750から800まだ漢字を勉強する。

 

[Toritoribe]

窶彭ﾋ彙窶堙ｰ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩﾂ鞘?披?堙個人窶堙債新窶｢ﾂｷ窶堙ｰ窶愿??堙ｱ窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶堋ｶ窶堙｣窶堙ｱ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙固津｣窶堙ｫ窶堙俄?板ｧ窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

ﾅｽﾃｨﾅｽ窶?窶堙ｰﾂ鞘?倪?堋｢窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩﾂ鞘?披?堙固ｽq窶堙哉弾ﾆ椎槌池窶堙ｰﾅ陳ｩ窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩﾆ塚?歎ﾆ坦窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙?坦ﾆ停?愴痴ﾆ停?ｦﾂーﾆ耽窶堙ｰﾅｽg窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩﾆ停??ﾆ耽ﾆ谷窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙固?ﾃ披?堙可催?窶堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。

Perfect!

Why is the totemo over there, is it because it's modifying the act of being good? I put it before Nihongo.

Yes. Though 窶堙??堙??堙?窶愿ｺ窶怒ﾅ津ｪ窶堙ｰﾋ彙窶堋ｷ窶堙娯?堋ｪﾂ湘｣ﾅｽﾃｨ窶堙俄?堙遺?堙ｨ窶堙懌?堋ｵ窶堋ｽ can also make sense, the order I wrote sounds more natural.

ﾂ催ｰ窶愿ｺﾂ、ﾅｽlﾅｽﾅｾ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ十ﾋ?ｪﾅｽﾅｾ窶堙懌?堋ｾ窶慊ｭ窶堋｢窶堋ｽﾂ。
ﾂ静ｦﾂ静ｦﾂ週窶堙?静ｦﾂ週窶堙坂?堙??堙??堙?窶纏窶堋ｵ窶堋ｩ窶堙≫?堋ｽﾂ！
窶禿ｲﾅ?w窶堙固ｽZ窶堙??佚戸?ｧ窶堙?陳ｳ窶ｹC窶堙娯?佚ｦ11窶ｰﾃ帚?堙ｰﾅｽn窶堙溪?堙ｩ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、ﾂ債｡ﾂ週窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶纏窶堋ｵ窶堋｢ﾂ。
ﾂ債｡ﾂ、750窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ800窶堙懌?堋ｾﾅ?ﾂｿﾅｽﾅ｡窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩﾂ。

ﾂ催ｰ窶愿ｺﾂ、ﾅｽlﾅｽﾅｾ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ十ﾋ?ｪﾅｽﾅｾ窶堙彈COLOR="Red"]窶堙?/COLOR]窶慊ｭ窶堋｢窶堋ｽﾂ。
窶禿ｲﾅ?w窶堙固ｽZ(?)窶堙??佚戸?ｧ窶堙?陳ｳ窶ｹC(?)窶堙娯?佚ｦ11窶ｰﾃ帚?堙ｰﾅｽn窶堙溪?堙ｩ窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧﾂ、ﾂ債｡ﾂ週窶堙娯?堙吮?堋､窶堋ｪ窶纏窶堋ｵ窶堋｢ﾂ。
ﾂ債｡ﾂ、750窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ800窶堙彈COLOR="Red"]窶堙?/COLOR]ﾅ?ﾂｿﾅｽﾅ｡窶堙ｰ窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ窶堋ｷ窶堙ｩﾂ。

 

[Putrefaction]

Pharmaceutical Calculations, Japanese book Genki I translated Pharmaceutical Calculations literally, I would have done the same for Anatomy (taigaku) but my Japanese teacher said taiiku is more appropriate.

And made, mada, what is the difference? One used in response to mou, the other one a response to kara?

And awesome, I got it down! Now if only I could say it, haha.

 

[undrentide]

And made, mada, what is the difference? One used in response to mou, the other one a response to kara?

窶堙懌?堋ｾ yet
窶堙?窶堋､ already

窶堋ｩ窶堙ｧ from
窶堙懌?堙 to, till, until

 

[Toritoribe]

Pharmaceutical Calculations: 窶禿ｲﾅ?wﾅ致ﾅｽZ
Anatomy: 窶ｰﾃｰ窶填ﾅ?w
(窶佚戸?ｧ generally means "gymnastics" as a subject.)

 

[Putrefaction]

Ah, so I was kind of right with the response to ___. Just put them in reverse.

And hmm, yakugakuteisan is Pharmaceutical Calcs. I can see why tei (measurement) would be in there...kaibogaku is Anatomy as well, interesting, thank you. I got really lazy last night, I didn't do anything of what I said except Kanji review, haha. It's getting harder, the more I learn the more I forget :|

 

[Toritoribe]

Just, just a tiny thing
薬学計算; yakugakukeisan

You wrote "tei" twice, so probably it's not a simple typo?;-)

 

[Putrefaction]

Probably wasn't, I was thinking of tokee (watch) and somehow messed it up as usual! Am doing Chapter 11, it's not too difficult.

---

So I did Chapter 11, it wasn't as hard as the concepts from 8 and 9. Though, I should say, the hardest thing I've ever seen in Japanese thus far is this sentence:

. It's really hard to understand for me, three particles right next to each other...I understand the ni + kai/ai, wa meaning the subject, and mou being already, but it's very...hard!

Other than that, can you grade my review?

1. はい、湖に行きたい。
2. はい、日本語のテープを聞きたい。
3. はい、旅行をしたい。
4. いいえ、ゆっくり休みたくない。
5. いいえ、会社の社長になりたくない。
6. はい、日本で働きたい。
7. はい、車を買いたい。
8. いいえ、日本に住みたくない。
9. はい、留学したい。
10. いいえ、山に登りたくない。
11. はい、有名になりたい。

I have another image on this later.
1. はい、テレビがみたかった。
2. はい、飛行機に乗りたかった。
3. いいえ、お風呂に入りたくなかった。
4. はい、犬が飼いたい。
5. いいえ、学校がやめたくなかった。
6. いいえ、魚が食べたくなかった。
7. いいえ、男の子と女の子と話したくありませんでした。
8. いいえ、ピアノが習いたくなかった。
Another: はい、有名になりたい。

I changed it to read a book: たけしさんは本を読んだり、運転したりしました。
きょうこさんはお菓子を使ったり、うちで本を読んだりしました。
スーさんは大阪に遊びに行ったり、食べたりしました。
けんさんは部屋を掃除したり、洗濯したりしました。
ロバートさんは友達に会ったり、ビデオを見たりました。
山下先生は温泉に行ったり、休んだりしました。

I skipped the love letters one.

ジオンさんは:

すしを食べたことがありました。
フランス語を勉強したことがありました。
レストランで働いたことがありました。
広島に行ったことがありません。
授業でぬたことがありました。
富士山に登ったことがありました。
日本で車を運転したことがありません。
日本の映画を見たことがありません。

There are no real examples with this so I made some up myself.
新しい車を買いたいと思っています。(I had wanted to buy a car for a while.)
このデパートに行きたいと思っています。(I had wanted to go to this store for a while.)
スティぶさんは泳ぎたくないと言っていました。(Steve said that he didn't want to swim.)
眼鏡をかけている女の人はシドニーさんに会いたかったと言っていました。(The woman wearing glasses said she wanted to meet with Sidney.)
I then ramped it up by saying:
眼鏡をかけている女の人グーキスを食べている女の子のそばに立っているはシドニーさんに会いたかったと言っていました。
(The woman wearing glasses standing near the girl eating cookies said she wanted to meet with Sidney. I realize I most likely did this wrong.)

→髪が茶色い女の人が好きだと言っていました。(This one was just to see if I got qualifying verb/adjectives right not describing an action, but a description: (someone mentioned before) said they like girls with brown hair.)

マイクさんは先生になりたがっています。(It seems Mike wants to become a teacher.)

カリーさんはうちに遅く帰るつもりです。／ 遅く帰りたがっています。(It seems Carrie is intending to go home early.)

週末には、映画を見たり、買い物したりました。
明日、洗濯したり、勉強したります。
昨日、友達に会ったりました。
日本語を練習したり、LLで日本語のテープを聞いたります。
今度の週末には、山に登ったり、温泉に行ったりたい。<--
居室で吸ったり、ビールを飲んだりしてはいけません。<--

I'm not sure about the <-- ones.

 

[Toritoribe]

You did it quite well!!

the hardest thing I've ever seen in Japanese thus far is this sentence:

. It's really hard to understand for me, three particles right next to each other...I understand the ni + kai/ai, wa meaning the subject, and mou being already, but it's very...hard!

もう is not a particle but an adverb.;-)
The core of the sentence is あの人に会いたくありません "I don't want to see that person."
は makes the object あの人 the topic.
もう in the structure "もう～たくない" means "not to want to do something again/anymore."
Thus, あの人にはもう会いたくありません means "As for that person, I don't want to see him/her anymore."

1. はい、湖に行きたい。
2. はい、日本語のテープを聞きたい。
3. はい、旅行をしたい。
4. いいえ、ゆっくり休みたくない。
5. いいえ、会社の社長になりたくない。
6. はい、日本で働きたい。
7. はい、車を買いたい。
8. いいえ、日本に住みたくない。
9. はい、留学したい。
10. いいえ、山に登りたくない。
11. はい、有名になりたい。

Perfect!
But はい/いいえ is a polite form, so, e.g., はい、湖に行きたいです sounds more natural.

1. はい、テレビがみたかった。
2. はい、飛行機に乗りたかった。
3. いいえ、お風呂に入りたくなかった。
4. はい、犬が飼いたい。
5. いいえ、学校がやめたくなかった。
6. いいえ、魚が食べたくなかった。
7. いいえ、男の子と女の子と話したくありませんでした。
8. いいえ、ピアノが習いたくなかった。
Another: はい、有名になりたい。

4. はい、犬が/を飼いたかったです。
5. いいえ、学校をやめたくなかったです。
7. いいえ、男の子/女の子と話したくありませんでした。
("both boys and girls": 男の子や女の子と/男の子とも女の子とも)
Another: はい、有名になりたかったです。

You can use both が and を with some verbs(見る, 飼う, 食べる, 習う in those examples), but を is more commonly used in some cases. が emphasizes the object as same as the contrastive marker は.

テレビが見たかった（ん）です。
It was TV, I wanted to watch.

I changed it to read a book: たけしさんは本を読んだり、運転したりしました。
きょうこさんはお菓子を使ったり、うちで本を読んだりしました。
スーさんは大阪に遊びに行ったり、食べたりしました。
けんさんは部屋を掃除したり、洗濯したりしました。
ロバートさんは友達に会ったり、ビデオを見たりました。
山下先生は温泉に行ったり、休んだりしました。

to go camping: キャンプに行く
きょうこさんはお菓子を作ったり、うちで本を読んだりしました。
スーさんは大阪に遊びに行ったり、食べに行ったりしました。(notice to the difference between "went to eat" and "ate")

ジオンさんは:

すしを食べたことがありました。
フランス語を勉強したことがありました。
レストランで働いたことがありました。
広島に行ったことがありません。
授業でぬたことがありました。
富士山に登ったことがありました。
日本で車を運転したことがありません。
日本の映画を見たことがありません。

John: ジョン
すしを食べたことがあります。
フランス語を勉強したことがあります。
レストランで働いたことがあります。
授業で寝[ね]たことがあります。
富士山に登ったことがあります。
to write love letter: ラブレターを書く

Now, you can translate my previous example, can't you?;-)

Have you ever eaten sushi?
No, I haven't (eaten it) yet.
(This might be a bit advanced, the expression for "experience.")

There are no real examples with this so I made some up myself.
新しい車を買いたいと思っています。(I had wanted to buy a car for a while.)
このデパートに行きたいと思っています。(I had wanted to go to this store for a while.)
スティーブさんは泳ぎたくないと言っていました。(Steve said that he didn't want to swim.)
眼鏡をかけている女の人はシドニーさんに会いたかったと言っていました。(The woman wearing glasses said she wanted to meet with Sidney.)
I then ramped it up by saying:
眼鏡をかけている女の人グーキスを食べている女の子のそばに立っているはシドニーさんに会いたかったと言っていました。
(The woman wearing glasses standing near the girl eating cookies said she wanted to meet with Sidney. I realize I most likely did this wrong.)

→髪が茶色い女の人が好きだと言っていました。(This one was just to see if I got qualifying verb/adjectives right not describing an action, but a description: (someone mentioned before) said they like girls with brown hair.)

マイクさんは先生になりたがっています。(It seems Mike wants to become a teacher.)

カリーさんはうちに遅く帰るつもりです。／ 遅く帰りたがっています。(It seems Carrie is intending to go home early.)

Pretty good!!
The woman wearing glasses standing near the girl eating cookies
クッキーを食べている女の子の近くに立っている、眼鏡をかけた/かけている女の人
This is a bit complicated.;-)

週末には、映画を見たり、買い物したりました。
明日、洗濯したり、勉強したります。
昨日、友達に会ったりました。
日本語を練習したり、LLで日本語のテープを聞いたります。
今度の週末には、山に登ったり、温泉に行ったりたい。<--
居室で吸ったり、ビールを飲んだりしてはいけません。<--

週末には、映画を見たり、買い物したりしました。
明日、洗濯したり、勉強したりします。
昨日、友達に会ったり本を読んだりしました。
*LL(語学教室)で日本語を練習したり、日本語のテープを聞いたりします。
今度の週末には、山に登ったり、温泉に行ったりしたい。
教室で煙草を吸ったり、ビールを飲んだりしてはいけません。

*日本語を練習したり、LLで日本語のテープを聞いたり means "I practice Japanese" and "listen to Japanese tapes in the LL". Thus, in that sentence, LLで modifies only 日本語のテープを聞く, and the place where to practice Japanese isn't stated.

 

[Putrefaction]

You can use both が and を with some verbs(見る, 飼う, 食べる, 習う in those examples), but を is more commonly used in some cases. が emphasizes the object as same as the contrastive marker は.

I see, I should leave it at を haha. Once again I see I have tense issues to work out.

But はい/いいえ is a polite form, so, e.g., はい、湖に行きたいです sounds more natural.

True, I just hate this un / uun in both writing and sound. Weird for me.

スーさんは大阪に遊びに行ったり、食べたりしました。
スーさんは大阪に遊びに行ったり、食べに行ったりしました。(notice to the difference between "went to eat" and "ate")

I see it, I also didn't read that part of the sentence. Thanks!

Now, you can translate my previous example, can't you?

I actually still can't find it. I'm also not sure why I put shimashita for every single one instead of shimasu. Weird.

Was it the camping?

たけしさんはキャンプに行ったり、運転したりしました。

クッキーを食べている女の子の近くに立っている、眼鏡をかけた/かけている女の人

This sentence makes sense to me when I read it but something is off, just like that one from a few pages ago about the number of people. I think because of the blue part: Nothing was introduced until the end so maybe this is why. Can you give me a Japanese sentence to translate and/or an English one to translate?

I'm also not sure why I repeated my first mistake and missed every shi in the last one. Very weird. I'm glad I got the last two mostly right, I was very unsure on how to phrase them.

第12課のほうがとても難しい.

I'm also looking for a Dictionary. The one I have right now is good, but unfortunately the entries are also romanized: I'm looking at "absorb" right now, they have the Kanji after such, but then no hiragana, instead romaji to spell out the Kanji, if you know what I mean. Do you know any good ones? I was looking at this one, I have the Random Houses' dictionary, I'll try to use it but the romaji turns me way off so I want a good one.

Also, um...I took a practice JLPT3 test. Did not do well. By that, I mean, did not pass. This is very disappointing to me...

 

[Toritoribe]

I actually still can't find it.

The quoted one
Have you ever eaten sushi?
No, I haven't (eaten it) yet.
(This might be a bit advanced, the expression for "experience.")
How do you know... ON/KUN and beyond

This sentence makes sense to me when I read it but something is off, just like that one from a few pages ago about the number of people. I think because of the blue part: Nothing was introduced until the end so maybe this is why. Can you give me a Japanese sentence to translate and/or an English one to translate?

窶堋ｨ窶堙俄?堋ｬ窶堙ｨ窶堙ｰﾂ食窶堙冷?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶吮??窶伉ｺ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙架彙窶堋ｵ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶彡窶吮??窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙債、ﾂ湘寂?堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷﾂ。
窶堋ｨ窶堙俄?堋ｬ窶堙ｨ: rice ball
someone窶堙架彙窶堋ｵ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙ｩ: to talk to someone

But this expression is just for practice. 窶彡窶吮??窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙債、窶堋ｨ窶堙俄?堋ｬ窶堙ｨ窶堙ｰﾂ食窶堙冷?堙??堋｢窶堙ｩ窶吮??窶伉ｺ窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ窶堙可湘寂?堋｢窶堙遺?堋ｪ窶堙ｧﾋ彙窶堋ｵ窶堋ｩ窶堋ｯ窶堙??堋｢窶堙懌?堋ｷ or like that is more natural as a description.