Japan WW2 War Booties/Yamashita treasure

[Grandpa Frank]

Lucky you got out fast!

Back when I was teen-ager (about the time fire was invented...) I had a crazy friend who had forked out all his hardearned savings from his summer job to buy a spiffy new metal detector. He was certain he could use the thing to earn himself a fortune and convinced me to help him (hey, I was gullible at the time... blame it on "Goonies").
We set out deep into the treacherous wilds of northern Michigan, home to rabid squirrels and feral fauna of all shapes and sizes (well... most are pretty small and harmless but whatever). Searching for clues we eventually found the tiniest of audibles... "ping"... "ping"... Needless to say, we set ourselves to digging frantically, our fevered pace spurred by visions of hidden treasure. Two hours later... we found a rusted Campbell's soup can. Thus ended my short-lived career as a booty hunter (err...).

I spent 4 years traveling the state of Maine , searching all the "good" spots with my 2 fancy metal detectors; under warter and on land. I must have bought $1000 worth of Maine history books , looking for the right places to search. In 4 years, I never found enough to pay for all the darn batteries the detectors used. I did probably remove a large dump trucks worth of trash from the earth to make it a cleaner place, LOL.

Uncle Frank

 

[gboy]

Jimmy Seal,

Thats not WW2 Army boots.....its WW2 War Booties...or War Loot...plundered by invading soldiers as their war trophies...

Obeika,

" Want to talk about WWII booty or supposed lost treasure? You need to use your head a bit and think about how much time and energy it would have taken Yamashita to dig and build the supposed fortifications that he did, oh and he also was running a war oh and don't forget he was also constantly moving around his headquarters as well.

Hmm where did he get the time to supposedly bury all that treasure he carried around with himself as well? You explain to me how he managed to build the structure in the picture included in the link below.
Did Lt. Gen. Yamashita bury tons of gold in the Philippines in WWII "

I'm glad you ask those questions...so that I can give you some lecture in WW2 War history....

1) First of all...the "Yamashita treasures" are NOT necessarily treasures from Gen. Tomoyoki Yamashita....actually those are the treasures plundered by Japanese forces from Asian and European countries....almost all japanese camps have their own "secret" buried treasures...from big volume treasure (general), large (Colonel), medium (Major/capt), small (ordinary soldiers)...
When soldiers of a general (500 men) buried big volume treasures inside a fortefied tunnels/caves....usually a few foot soldiers steal and secretly buried also small treasures like one drum or a box....Thats why a big volume treasures is sorrounded by smaller treasures.
"Yamashita Treasures" became famous bcoz the most early treasures recovery came from the buried treasures of gen. yamashita in the North of Luzon....the rest of the treasures who even came from other Japanese
generals was also called Yamashita treasures...although it should be called "Japanese WW2 War Booties"

 

[gboy]

Obeika,

continuation...

" Want to talk about WWII booty or supposed lost treasure? You need to use your head a bit and think about how much time and energy it would have taken Yamashita to dig and build the supposed fortifications that he did, oh and he also was running a war oh and don't forget he was also constantly moving around his headquarters as well.

Hmm where did he get the time to supposedly bury all that treasure he carried around with himself as well? You explain to me how he managed to build the structure in the picture included in the link below.
Did Lt. Gen. Yamashita bury tons of gold in the Philippines in WWII "

2) For your info....Japan Emperor planned WW2 as early 1910's during the time of WW1. However they were still not prepared to join WW1 and invade the Asian countries. Thats why they only engage with Russian in Sakhalin islands...
As early as 1910's Japanese are already preparing for WW2. Thats why they sent several spies, intelligence, engineers in several Asian countries abroad. In late 1910's several Japanese nationals arrive in Davao City, Mindanao Island, Phil...to work as pineapple workers,laborers, engineers and businessmen...one of those engineer is Mr. Inami Murakami (grandfather of my filipino bestfriend Richie). For several decades Mr. Inami Murakami work in Japanese mining and construction copmpanies here in the Philippines. They secretly and covertly started to BUILT SEVERAL FORTIFIED TUNNELS/ BUNKERS/ ROADS their disguised was mining/road construction.
Mr. Inami Murakami married a filipina in 1920's had children and grandchildren. When WW2 broke out in 1939, Mr. Murakami neighbors in Davao City was surprise to see an ordinary japanese engineer instantly became a Japanese Military officer...supervising the burials and entombment of Japanese WW2 War Booties or treasures in some of their FORTIFIED TUNNELS/ BUNKERS/CAVES in several parts of Mindanao.

The Japanese prepared WW2 as early as 25 years before the war...thats why the americans was surprise by their most advance WW2 technology and war chest...most advance fighter plane...Zero or kamikazi...the biggest battleships..Musashi and Yamato class, ...mini submarine...etc...

Thats why its no longer surprising...how the Japanese buried their treasure so quickly...bcoz they had already built their fortified tunnels way beyond WW2....THATS THE SECRET NEVER MENTIONED IN WW2 HISTORY...oks?

3) Did Gen. Yamashita buried treasures in the Phil?
Of course he did...mostly his buried treasures in the North of Luzon wherein he is mostly assigned.
How do we know?....my bestfriend father the late Col. was former Pres. Marcos treasure partner and military crony. During Martial La days (1972-82) they recovered several thousand tons gold...some are deposited abroad and some are reburried here in the Philippines. The late Col. treasure share and Marcos.. gold deposits abroad...was confiscated/sequestered by CIA / Gold Cartel / Gold Banks. The old man Col. died poor however his other treasures sites remain our target now.
In fact one proof of CIA and the late Col. gold transactions...was held in my bestfriend house in 1982...original signed documents of consumated sale of initial 2,000 pcs. gold bars, 75 kilos/bar and picture of 2 CIA posed as gold buyers...was still with us...

ANY MORE YAMASHITA TREASURE QUESTIONS OR DOUBTS?....

 

[KirinMan]

ANY MORE YAMASHITA TREASURE QUESTIONS OR DOUBTS?....

No there are no doubts in my mind....it's still all BS.

 

[Iron Chef]

one of those engineer is Mr. Inami Murakami (grandfather of my filipino bestfriend Richie).

?....my bestfriend father the late Col. was former Pres. Marcos treasure partner and military crony.

In fact one proof of CIA and the late Col. gold transactions...was held in my bestfriend house in 1982...

Citing your "best friend" as your source on more than one occasion doesn't validate your argument 's legitimacy. The burden of proof still rests with you. To quote Cuba Gooding Jr., "Show me the money..."

 

[gboy]

Mr. Obeika,
Its understandable that when you run out of arguments or doubts, you simply called it... BS... w/o rebuttal or explanations...
BS is one of the most simple alibi if you run out of arguments.

By the way, if you are just starting to research WW2 treasures and wanted to argue with me...your too late...bcoz I have already research that topic for several years...you can't outdebate me...I have extensive research than you can possibly have...oks?...

Mr. Iron Chef,

I like you, bcoz you have a good sense of observation....by the way I watch TV series "the Iron Chef" its about Japanese cooking contest....I assume you are also a good cook.
Anyway here are the profiles of people I mentioned...you can verify and research it anytime you want...

1) Maj. Gen. Inami Murakami -
- Daliao, Toril, Davao City, Mindanao...childdren: Shinubu, Arumi, Noami...Ricardo.
- Chief Of the Japanese Imperial Forces, Civilian Pacification Campaign based in Mindanao. He raise from the rank...from engineer to junior officer in WW2...until he died a Maj. Gen in late 1970's.
- The late general opened and constructed the roads connecting from Masugpo (now Tagum City) to Mawab, Nabunturan, Monkayo, Campostela Valley now part of COMVAL Province formerly Davao del Norte
- He also work and help open mining areas in Mt. Diwalwal, Monte Alto, Araibo, maragusan Valley.
- Arrived in 1915 and work as Technical Consultant of Furukawa Dev. Co., Ohta Dev. Co and several japanese logging and mining companies in Mindanao. He supervised the prewar construction of several Japanese underground tunnel...later used as treasure tunnels.

2) CIA people with gold transactions with our old folks...
a) Robert B. Higdon (CIA/Accountant/Gold Buyer) ....in 1982, was in his 60's when he negotiated in my bestfriend house (our neighbor) the gold transaction...amounting to several thousand tons...the signed documents of their transaction is with us...initial 2,000 pcs. 75 kilos gold bars. We have pictures of Mr. Higdon and Bustader in the signing of documents...
b) Mr. Bustader...was a companion of Mr. Higdon...

Note: Mr. Higdon was mentioned in Marcos Chronology Report (see google internet)...wherein the former Pres. Marcos wanted to borrow billions of doallars from Mr. Higdon in 1982..how the heck an ordinary CIA/Accountant have billion dollars money...if he was not used as Marcos CIA Crony?....
..It only proves our allegations that indeed Mr. Frank B. Higdon exist..

3) Regarding the identity of the late Col?....ooopss sorry we can't devulge his true identity...he still had several reburried sites worth a few hundred billion dollars....a mere mentioned of his name alone...will surely panic the CIA/Gold Cartel...it may cause WW3....
Bcoz the CIA/Gold Cartel knew that the gold they confiscate from Marcos and the late Colonel from banks abroad worth maybe $trillions now...is only 50% of the treasures they recovered...the rest are still secretly reburied and hidden here in the Philippines....and its our job to retrace/recover it...oks? he,he,he...

 

[KirinMan]

Mr. Obeika,
Its understandable that when you run out of arguments or doubts, you simply called it... BS... w/o rebuttal or explanations...
BS is one of the most simple alibi if you run out of arguments.

Not quite, I just choose not to discuss topics with star-glazed eyed people that are on a wild-goose chase.

Whenever I read your posts one phrase keeps popping up in my mind........

Where's the beef?

 

[Elizabeth van Kampen]

To gboy,

The history of Yamashita's gold is absolutely fascinating.
I have read the book "Cold Warriors" by Sterling and Peggy Seagrave.

Well I hope that the poor in the Philippines will find this gold, they need it.
So it would be a gift from heaven for them.

 

[gboy]

Obeika,

Here is your beef....dyarraaaaannn....
These are treasures recovered by two groups of treasure hunters. The gold bars (75 kilos) and smaller ones were recovered in 2001, the gold bar with diamonds were recovered in 2007....
Can you start to drool now with those...quarter dollar size diamond and floor full of gold bars?...

Don't worry next time...once our team raise funds...and explore treasure sites...we will produce our own picture of gold stockpile with gboy smiling...

 

[KirinMan]

Obeika,
Here is your beef....dyarraaaaannn....
These are treasures recovered by two groups of treasure hunters. The gold bars (75 kilos) and smaller ones were recovered in 2001, the gold bar with diamonds were recovered in 2007....
Can you start to drool now with those...quarter dollar size diamond and floor full of gold bars?...
Don't worry next time...once our team raise funds...and explore treasure sites...we will produce our own picture of gold stockpile with gboy smiling...

You know what is the funniest thing so far, as the thread goes on and on you conveniently "provide" what ever so called facts or information to supposedly "support" your search for this "treasure"....(Yeah Right)

One thing I must say however is thank you for finally admitting the truth here, as I posted so long ago on this thread, all you are looking for is people to support or fund your team, in your pipe dream search.

You know honesty goes a long way with people here, instead of trying to baffle people with your BS you would have been better served with coming out with the "truth" in the first place. "Hey I'm looking for people to invest in my search for treasure...." Instead of trying to "educate" people about fact and fiction from WWII. Which is what you have been doing so far, you have managed to mix the two rather well.

It's no wonder you go banned from another "site" with this information.

 

[gboy]

Obeika,

he,he,he....again you shift from "beef/yamashita topic"...into baseless accusations.....was it bcoz everytime you challenge me...I was able to answer it? its like a slap in your face...isn't it?...and you can't rebutt...

...By the way. most treasure hunting operation/mining here in the Phil had been funded by abroad....Do you have a problem with that?...Why don't you try to lodge a complain in our Bureau of Investment asking for banning foriegn investment in Mining and treasure Hunting....Did I mentioned to you that treasure hunting is very very much legal here? (browse bureu of mines website regarding treasure hunting permit)..

....Bcoz of Phil. Pres. Marcos gold...our gov't had recovered more than billion of dollars gold deposits already....he,he,he...thats why politicians here loves treasure hunting....oks?

Lets go back to our main issues....that you refuse...afraid...to rebutt

1) Challenge 1...where is the beef?...when I was able to produce the beef....
what is your rebuttal...nothing...he,he,he

2) Challenge 2....You said Yamashita had no time to dig treasures....when I was able tyo explain and proves that the japanese had advance tean here doing some tunneling already...What is your rebuttal?...nothing...he,he,he...

When I was able to answer your every challenges...what is your argument or rebuttal?...nothing..., bcoz it is like a slap in your face...was it? he,he,he...

I told you so...tsk,tsk,tsk...you can't outdebate me...you are just a beginner in this topic...

And what is your....personal criticism again?....I love to see you stay away from the main topic (beef or yamashita issue)...just to look for small loopholes in my sentences and get personal criticism...i get excited when you do that...bcoz it only shows your weakness in a debate or rebuttal...swirving away from main treasure topic..and your only answer is personal attacks and criticism ....he,he,he...

 

[Davey]

Thread closed for now, might open it in a couple of days when you guys have cooled down, and are able to go back on topic instead of the Beef part.