思いますか。
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I outsourced my opinion.
This statement is not entirely accurate. While many loanwords in Japanese do have a heiban (flat) accent pattern, it's not correct to say that "most" loanwords follow this pattern.
Loanwords in Japanese can actually have various accent patterns, including:
1. Heiban (flat): e.g., コンピューター (konpyūtā, computer)
2. Atamadaka (initial high): e.g., カメラ (kamera, camera)
3. Nakadaka (middle high): e.g., アメリカ (amerika, America)
4. Odaka (final high): e.g., テレビ (terebi, television)
The accent pattern of loanwords can depend on factors such as the original language's stress pattern, the word's length, and how it has been adapted into Japanese phonology. While heiban is common, it's not the dominant pattern for all loanwords.
It's also worth noting that accent patterns for loanwords can vary by region and individual speaker, making it difficult to generalize about "most" loanwords having a specific accent pattern.
This statement is not entirely accurate. While many loanwords in Japanese do have a heiban (flat) accent pattern, it's not correct to say that "most" loanwords follow this pattern.
Loanwords in Japanese can actually have various accent patterns, including:
1. Heiban (flat): e.g., コンピューター (konpyūtā, computer)
2. Atamadaka (initial high): e.g., カメラ (kamera, camera)
3. Nakadaka (middle high): e.g., アメリカ (amerika, America)
4. Odaka (final high): e.g., テレビ (terebi, television)
The accent pattern of loanwords can depend on factors such as the original language's stress pattern, the word's length, and how it has been adapted into Japanese phonology. While heiban is common, it's not the dominant pattern for all loanwords.
It's also worth noting that accent patterns for loanwords can vary by region and individual speaker, making it difficult to generalize about "most" loanwords having a specific accent pattern.
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Pronunciation doesn't affect the kanji word but the って part. That is, て and って are pronounced differently. Just as きて and きって are pronounced differnetly.
って is just a casual more colloquial way to write という and sometimes は as noted here:
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I think when used that way it's actually short for というのは, or at least that was it is in my head.
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No, you should read it as kaisha tte.
It's just a contraction of something longer. As long as you know what it means and the function it serves in the sentence, you're all set.
It's just a contraction of something longer. As long as you know what it means and the function it serves in the sentence, you're all set.
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And if I could nitpick for a moment, the title of the thread is odd.
If you want to say "what do you think?", you would say どう思いますか？
思いますか by itself doesn't really make sense.
But, yes, you are correct in that every time you come across a hard rule in Japanese, there seems to be a million different major exceptions to that rule. I think it is the same with most languages. The trick is to continue learning the rules, and at the same time being aware that those rules are often broken.
If you want to say "what do you think?", you would say どう思いますか？
思いますか by itself doesn't really make sense.
But, yes, you are correct in that every time you come across a hard rule in Japanese, there seems to be a million different major exceptions to that rule. I think it is the same with most languages. The trick is to continue learning the rules, and at the same time being aware that those rules are often broken.
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Pardon me for nitpicking just a little more. The の in this part of your signature is grammatically incorrect. It doesn't need to be replaced by anything else, just removed to be fixed.
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️thanks!
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Oh I found it. I didn't even know about that feature.
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I used books to gain more vocabulary but found I needed to use Japanese almost everyday to learn it. When I left Japan , my Japanese faded no matter what I did to save it. I think each person is different though in how they learn and retain it.
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I think many of us here learned Japanese before the internet - so, yes books were essential to our learning, and maybe us old-timers have a slightly irrational attachment to that form of study. (No distractions, can write notes on them, portable and useable regardless of wifi or power access, etc...). The "Genki" series is often mentioned as a valuable tool for learning Japanese. I used a different text, produced by the University of Hawaii, which I am sure is out of print now. (I also had a book called 500 Japanese Verbs, and two kanji books - Toyo Kanji and Joyo Kanji). All of those were great resources for me.
But there are many paths to Japanese fluency, and I'm sure there are many people nowadays who use the internet as their exclusive source of information. If it works for you, who are we to judge.
But there are many paths to Japanese fluency, and I'm sure there are many people nowadays who use the internet as their exclusive source of information. If it works for you, who are we to judge.
