COVID-19 Coronavirus: global situation

it's new, but they are already saying its 70% more contagious. something doesn't sound right. is it because of the political EU Brexit: UK-EU trade talks enter critical 48-hour period - BBC News.

Today was reported that the strain has already been discovered in September. Similar mutations have been found in Denmark, the Netherlands, Italy, and Australia. Those travel restrictions have come too late.
 
Yes, it's been a real blow to British people, who feel that "Christmas has been cancelled". There's also the worry in Britain about it officially leaving the EU customs zone at the end of the year and the effect that this will have on the smooth flow of goods (there are already delays and are likely to be shortages of some goods soon). It feels like a bleak place when I read the news and phone my family there.
 
its new, but they are already saying its 70% more contagious . something doesn't sound right. is it because of the political EU Brexit: UK-EU trade talks enter critical 48-hour period - BBC News
It's over my head, I don't care that much about the science to try to understand it either, but: the main COVID strain had a transmission of 0.7, and this new strain is 1.1, that is, approximately 70% more. Thing is, the 0.7 and 1.1 numbers don't mean much to laypeople (and I have read what it means, I just completely forgot, partly because I'm a layperson) so they use the terminology of 70%.

I don't think there's anything political about it, it's just that the new strain is appearing and spreading at a higher rate than the main one. No blame on UK either, anymore than a Chinese person is to blame for the original strain.
 
It's over my head, I don't care that much about the science to try to understand it either, but: the main COVID strain had a transmission of 0.7, and this new strain is 1.1, that is, approximately 70% more. Thing is, the 0.7 and 1.1 numbers don't mean much to laypeople (and I have read what it means, I just completely forgot, partly because I'm a layperson) so they use the terminology of 70%.

I don't think there's anything political about it, it's just that the new strain is appearing and spreading at a higher rate than the main one. No blame on UK either, anymore than a Chinese person is to blame for the original strain.
Actually, it's quite easy - less than 1 is good and more than 1 is bad! I wasn't making a political comment, I was just expressing sympathy for my fellow Brits for having to deal with the Brexit transition (admittedly an entirely self-imposed problem) in a country with poor organization skills (because the politicians farm off the tasks to their mates - sorry, I am being political now!) at the same time as a pandemic, then having the bad luck to experience a mutation that makes the problem even worse.
 
Actually, it's quite easy - less than 1 is good and more than 1 is bad! I wasn't making a political comment, I was just expressing sympathy for my fellow Brits for having to deal with the Brexit transition (admittedly an entirely self-imposed problem) in a country with poor organization skills (because the politicians farm off the tasks to their mates - sorry, I am being political now!) at the same time as a pandemic, then having the bad luck to experience a mutation that makes the problem even worse.

I believe @nahadef was actually responding to @musicisgood's post. :)
 
Yes, it's been a real blow to British people, who feel that "Christmas has been cancelled". There's also the worry in Britain about it officially leaving the EU customs zone at the end of the year and the effect that this will have on the smooth flow of goods (there are already delays and are likely to be shortages of some goods soon). It feels like a bleak place when I read the news and phone my family there.

Do British people believe in storing food for at least a months supply?
 
Do British people believe in storing food for at least a months supply?
Good question. Not traditionally because of the lack of natural disasters in the country. However, with Britain nearly crashing out of Europe without a deal a year ago, which would have suddenly massively slowed down imports from the EU and created chaos, and people, especially older people, practising social distancing, British people are much better prepared than they would have been five years ago.
 
It's over my head, I don't care that much about the science to try to understand it either, but: the main COVID strain had a transmission of 0.7, and this new strain is 1.1, that is, approximately 70% more. Thing is, the 0.7 and 1.1 numbers don't mean much to laypeople (and I have read what it means, I just completely forgot, partly because I'm a layperson) so they use the terminology of 70%.
The 70% is purely a back of the envelope calculation i.e. conjecture. They really don't know if it's more transmissible or if a few superspreaders happened to boost that strain into prominence. But they don't have time to wait a few weeks for the boffins to figure it out hence the high alert and warnings.

Good question. Not traditionally because of the lack of natural disasters in the country. However, with Britain nearly crashing out of Europe without a deal a year ago, which would have suddenly massively slowed down imports from the EU and created chaos, and people, especially older people, practising social distancing, British people are much better prepared than they would have been five years ago.
Well if I were in Britain I'd be stocking up on Camembert cheese and macaroons and champagne at this very moment. At least enough to get me through new years. :)
 
Here in the US , a lot of the testing is done by car drive up and you hang your head out the window for the nasal swab. I'm not sure I could get my fat naked butt out my car window.
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I have never been tested for the coronavirus, but judging by what I have heard from my family in Europe those nose swabs are really painful.

I got tested once and the nurse just wiggled the swab around in my nose a little bit. Just ticklish, not painful at all but I was doubtful about how reliable her method was considering everything I had read about. Since we were confident we weren't sick and were only getting tested in order to travel it didn't really concern me at the time.
 
I've always been worried about the nasal test because the layer separating/protecting the brain from the sinus cavity is very thin and too aggressive a poke could be dangerous.
 
I was shocked to get a call a few days ago that I get my first shot today. When I signed up just 2 weeks ago , they said they had no clue when the shots might be available. I thought it was interesting that you get the second shot 28 days after the first instead of 2 weeks. I must be a bit worried about a reaction ; I had a bad nightmare about everyone who got the shot was laying on the floor dying. If I do have any reaction to it , Ill post here about it. Now all we have to do is get my wife set up for her shot and I'll be happy.
 
Yeah I hope all goes well for you Frank.
My mother just had her first shot she's in a care center.
I got to see a picture of her after her taking her shot.
Like you I hope everything goes all well for my mother also.
 
I was shocked to get a call a few days ago that I get my first shot today. When I signed up just 2 weeks ago , they said they had no clue when the shots might be available. I thought it was interesting that you get the second shot 28 days after the first instead of 2 weeks. I must be a bit worried about a reaction ; I had a bad nightmare about everyone who got the shot was laying on the floor dying. If I do have any reaction to it , Ill post here about it. Now all we have to do is get my wife set up for her shot and I'll be happy.
I took my mom for her first shot (Moderna) last weekend. Next one in four weeks. She had no reaction or ill effects but they say the second shot you're more likely to feel some symptoms (such as chills, headache, fever) so I'm planning to stay the night with her next time. She's 88 and lives alone.
 
I was impressed by the system my doctor's office was using. They set it up in an abandoned office complex with about 100 cubicles. From entrance to exit was just 30 minutes. There were about 75 to 100 patients at a time with dots on the floor 6 feet apart you stood on. It moved really fast , only about 15 minutes to get the shot and then you sit for 15 minutes to make sure there are no issues. So far , no arm pain and no problems. They say with Moderna , the second shot seems to be the worse. I'll find out in 28 days.
 
WOW! The first covid shot kicked my butt. Been in bed for 2 days , sick as a dog. Like having a weeks worth of a bad flu in just 2 days. Got up today and it was gone. They say it's the second shot that makes you sick , so now I'm nervous about getting that one.
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WOW! The first covid shot kicked my butt. Been in bed for 2 days , sick as a dog. Like having a weeks worth of a bad flu in just 2 days. Got up today and it was gone. They say it's the second shot that makes you sick , so now I'm nervous about getting that one.
On the bright side, we know your body is getting primed to fight this virus. Make sure you get the second shot and you should be well protected. Did your wife have any symptoms?
 
Wife's only 66 , so the way Maine is going , we figure she won't get the shot till about April. My immune system is probably pretty weak from having no human contact except for my wife for the past 3 or 4 years. I only leave the house about once a month to go to the ATM & gas pump. I'm a real hermit.
 
I kind of get the feeling that most people feel the vaccine may not work against any new variants ?
 
The year is 2039 ! Have you had shot number 1202 , the latest and best now available ! Sometimes the future looks grim on beating this virus.

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