Your view on Race Communism?

[Kulern]

In Academia, there is often a lack of nuances.

But i can try to explain it as simple as i can

If we take three people. Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini and Abraham Lincoln. To a left winger, they will view two of them as racist or fascist. And one of them is viewed as a federalist
But to a right winger, they will view all of them as Communists.

Now obviously. This sounds like a contradiction? But it makes sense if one look at it this way. Communism is supposedly a selling point, about a stateless classless society. However? It often leads to strong centralized government, infringing on traditions or religions. Whether good or bad? (Although i personally am against Corporate religious nepotism though). But its solution is to sell values ordered by a Strong Federalist state.

So to a right winger. Thats what a Communist means. However a left winger will view it more on system based on rhetorics. So racism, or anything that is against the left wing philosophy gets a different label? Hence. You get the more popular label this way

But to get to the point. Race Communism means to unite non whites against whites. Now i didnt live in the 1960s and 1970s, but it could have been different? So i wont judge on that aspect. Either case. I think Opportunism is racism. Thats just the reality of things.

I guess i am not asking anyone to take sides. I just want the nuances to be discussed is all.

 

[Kulern]

For history to the recent conflict. I would look up
Financial Crisis 2008 which lead up to Occupy Wall Street in 2011 (Which failed)

• This surged left wing identity politics after it. Such as GamerGate 2014
• Later on (ESG/DEI)
• Trump nowadays is stamping this out

And here we are today

 

[mdchachi]

"Race communism" is a derogatory internet/political slang term used mostly by right-wing commentators to describe policies they think allocate power or resources by race rather than by class, often framed as favoring non-White groups over White people. It is not a standard academic term, and its meaning is usually rhetorical and pejorative rather than descriptive. wiktionary

In practice, people use it to criticize things like affirmative action, diversity policies, or other equity-focused programs, sometimes treating them as if they were a racial version of communism. Because it is loaded language, the term often says more about the speaker's politics than about any precise theory.

 

[Kulern]

I should note. Academia is HEAVILY Left wing. So its obvious they wont use that term there

But thats a good way to define it. But i dont care for diversity, but i am also not against it. I think telling a good story, or working for sake of needed work, is overall what matters. And not let supremacy groups advocate for it. Whether its Fascists, Nazis or Communists.

I could go on about Ethical Payment (Smallest pay you can pay out in a country) is sort of a Socialist scam to bring in foreign cheap labour to do those jobs without breaking the law (Fyi not blaming immigrants). But socialists automatically hate the West and are by default Race Communists by this reason is all.

Its in the end about Opportunism to begin with. If it all could be 50/50 i would be happy. But... eh it is what it is. I think countries should help themselves and build themselves up. Every country deserves that in my view.

 

[Kulern]

I also wonder if the aid to Africa even helps? And isnt being paid to African warlords. I am not saying to go apathy mode. But it is clear that Strong Central government. Even if it is making a country worse off as a long lasting result? Is really whatever to a communist. Because their mentality is strong centralized rule! Virtue signaling as one call it. To be perceived as good rather than actual virtue.

Its kinda like people who gets too addicted from getting stuff from others. But have no power to build their own strength. That in long term can't be healthy.

 

[mdchachi]

In the U.S. we have a pervasive myth that people receiving government assistance are living comfortably on government assistance and doing nothing to better their situation. The so-called "welfare queen."

The Idea of 'Welfare Queens' Has Always Been a Myth

The concept stemmed from the 1962 Reverse Freedom Rides, a segregationist effort to send welfare recipients to the north.

time.com

 

[Kulern]

In the U.S. we have a pervasive myth that people receiving government assistance are living comfortably on government assistance and doing nothing to better their situation. The so-called "welfare queen."

The Idea of 'Welfare Queens' Has Always Been a Myth

The concept stemmed from the 1962 Reverse Freedom Rides, a segregationist effort to send welfare recipients to the north.

time.com

Thats not exactly what i mean. I mean some people are sadly not needed or there isnt a work market for it. Which hurts the pride of someone for sure. Since it doesnt feel good to be on the sideline when one wanna work

But i do think USA has welfare model into their government (Or Federal sector). Its just not a massive one, because they likely wanna encourage small businesses

 

[Ukigumo]

I should note. Academia is HEAVILY Left wing. So its obvious they wont use that term there

It makes you wonder why highly educated, well-read, regularly challenged via peer review publishing people, are left wing What do they know and understand that right wing people don't?

 

[Kulern]

It makes you wonder why highly educated, well-read, regularly challenged via peer review publishing people, are left wing What do they know and understand that right wing people don't?

Being over represented in Academia doesnt equal skill. I think Conservative faction tend to prefer Trade School. But they just arent big into Feds running people's daily life is the difference.

 

[mdchachi]

Being over represented in Academia doesnt equal skill. I think Conservative faction tend to prefer Trade School. But they just arent big into Feds running people's daily life is the difference.

It would imply increased skill in thought. i.e. brain power.

Not sure about your country but in the U.S. conservatives claim they aren't big into government control over people's daily life but in fact they are very hypocritical about this. For example they support banning books. They support limiting what teachers can talk about. They support banning access to health care for women (if there is any chance of it resulting in terminating pregnancy) and those with gender dysphoria. It's true they generally support deregulation but the motive mainly seems to be profit for the oligarchy. Basically regulation is often treated as "bad" only when it limits ordinary people or public-interest rules, while being welcomed when it protects elite interests.

 

[Ukigumo]

Being over represented in Academia doesnt equal skill. I think Conservative faction tend to prefer Trade School.

Because of lower academic ability/lower IQ?

But they just arent big into Feds running people's daily life is the difference.

I think a lot of the general public are so stupid, they need a bit of guidance. Look at all those misbehaving 'content creators' in Japan. Don't you think they need a bit of guidance? or should they be allowed to behave so badly?

 

[mdchachi]

Look at all those misbehaving 'content creators' in Japan. Don't you think they need a bit of guidance?

If by "guidance" you mean "a s s whooping" then I would agree.

 

[Mikawa Ossan]

"Race Communism" is a new one to me. It sounds like the kind of thing someone with a very narrow set of friends would come up with.

 

[Kulern]

Because of lower academic ability/lower IQ?

I think a lot of the general public are so stupid, they need a bit of guidance. Look at all those misbehaving 'content creators' in Japan. Don't you think they need a bit of guidance? or should they be allowed to behave so badly?

Well Keir Starmer isn't exactly showing the finer quality of Academia? Even "Woodrow Wilson", the early 1900s President of USA was a educated man. And i think its fair to say, not many like that person. Especially with my scepticism towards a strong central government. Whether its the EU. Or in USA, the closest to that is Federal Reserve. (Central Banking). The best leader is the one who is decisive, but not for the sake of evil, but for sake of getting policies done! Of trade, helping their own countrymen and good relations overall

 

[Kulern]

Because of lower academic ability/lower IQ?

I think a lot of the general public are so stupid, they need a bit of guidance. Look at all those misbehaving 'content creators' in Japan. Don't you think they need a bit of guidance? or should they be allowed to behave so badly?

I mean Japanese people aren't that different from us when it comes to misbehaving
I think you mean culturally they have different strict rules, vs the more relaxing Western sentiment. If anything, Felix (PewDiePie) is behaving very well in Japan. Respect for the culture he is living in, teaching his son the language of Japan, because they currently live there. And overall not trying to cause any problem. I think its fair to say, this is what every immigrant should act like if they immigrate to a country.

But i think know what you are against? Its the cringe content creators who does stuff for clicks? In the worst way possible. There was a video game that came out recently that parodies these types of people.



But here is the thing. Misbehavior is a state of mind when it comes to overseas dissing. Vs being a nuisance in society (Which is worse obviously)

When the video game Assassin's Creed Shadows came out. A lot of Japanese people didn't like how you could destroy shrines. But at the same time, i don't like how the character in Bleach, Yhwach is supposedly Evil Jesus either. So in the end, somebody is gonna get their feelings hurt in someway.

But i do agree that, respect for the culture, rule of law and assimilate should be the case if a person choose to immigrate to a different country. Basically. Logan Paul and people like that brings shame for sure. And i don't like people who act like this overseas.

I was gonna find a video of "Snufkin yeets a sign" but i couldnt find it. But Japan has very strict written rules on it
The closest video might be this Norwegian video, talking about the very strict written sign rules in Japan in some part of the video. (But you likely wont understand much what he is saying here)


However. I will admit, discipline isn't always a bad thing. So i feel we can learn something from Japan on this in the West

But i have respect fo Voulantary Workers who picks up trash. I had that one time job in my childhood, at times when teachers would talk to use about polution etc. Even if its not the best job to have for someone. It still is helpful for society, that i respect.

 

[Ukigumo]

I mean Japanese people aren't that different from us when it comes to misbehaving

You need to show evidence for that. Show me a video of a misbehaving Japanese person abroad.

 

[Grandpa Frank]

Well , there was that one time.

 

[Kulern]

You need to show evidence for that. Show me a video of a misbehaving Japanese person abroad.

Closest one i can think of is this. (Although its done for entertainment, so maybe its an unfair comparison?) But i dont have much knowledge of how Japanese act like when they visit other countries But they are humans like us. Personality determines how one acts overall Same thing in animals aswell,culture aside, we aren't so different



Japan is cool nonetheless : D

 

[Ukigumo]

Closest one i can think of is this. (Although it's done for entertainment, so maybe it's an unfair comparison?)

These are not valid for the reasons you state.

 

[Kulern]

These are not valid for the reasons you state.

I think what you are mostly against is

• Terminally online behavior
• Clickbait tubers
• People making annoying content for attention
• They go to other countries, become annoying
• Result. Bad reputation.

I don't even know who Johnny Somali is? But lets just say. I dont like people who lives their life like this to create problems in other countries. Thats for sure.

edit: Lets just say this. If censorship of the internet happens, because of lack of discipline, manners and self restraint from these content creators. Then i know who to blame

 

[Kulern]

So i came to a new conclusion.

And i think it makes mostly sense, but... rhetoric usage basically.

If Hitler was the original Race Communist right? Yknow the Aryan race vs non Whites, non Aryans.
And some modern people can use this to unite the Non Whites vs the Whites, from different layers of life.

So the ultimate question is this. Is the cultural aspect based on altruistic fellowship? Or based on ambitious ones. I think ultimately its what one can determine the nuances. And i am not suggesting any policies.

But i do think Academia should atleast take this up. As a legit discussion topic.

Because ultimately. People are flawed. Whether its Boromir from LOTR or any other people. I think ultimately, this adds to the question of good vs evil. Of ultimately, helping your countrymen, people in your country, looking after them. But it also adds the question of opportunism within the usurping branches of people.

 

[Ukigumo]

If Hitler was the original Race Communist right?

Race Fascist, surely?

So the ultimate question is this. Is the cultural aspect based on altruistic fellowship? Or based on ambitious ones. I think ultimately it's what one can determine the nuances. And i am not suggesting any policies.

Please explain this.

But i do think Academia should atleast take this up. As a legit discussion topic.

We're too busy!

Because ultimately. People are flawed. Whether it's Boromir from LOTR or any other people. I think ultimately, this adds to the question of good vs evil. Of ultimately, helping your countrymen, people in your country, looking after them. But it also adds the question of opportunism within the usurping branches of people.

I'm afraid I, for one, don't understand what you're talking about.

 

[Kulern]

Race Fascist, surely?

Please explain this.

We're too busy!

I'm afraid I, for one, don't understand what you're talking about.

Ultimately. People dont want to understand. Or they pretend to be a dunce. I have experienced that on a different forum.

 

[mdchachi]

Ultimately. People dont want to understand. Or they pretend to be a dunce. I have experienced that on a different forum.

We need a higher intelligence to understand your words. Luckily we have such higher intelligences accessible to us now.
Seriously why do you assume we know who Boromir is? And what LOTR means? Even if that were explained to me I still wouldn't get it. Last time I read the books was 40 years ago. And last time I saw the movie was 25 years ago. Unfortunately my memory of character names and plot points doesn't last that long. I still don't understand what "opportunism within the usurping branches of people" means. But fortunately somebody does.

The statement is wrestling with the idea that human beings are imperfect, and that this imperfection complicates simple ideas of "good vs. evil."

At its core, it's saying:

• People are flawed, even those who are generally good. Boromir from The Lord of the Rings is a classic example—he's brave and loyal, but he's also tempted by power and makes a morally wrong choice.
• Because of that, morality isn't clean-cut. Someone can act for a noble reason (protecting their people or country) and still do something harmful or selfish along the way.
• It raises a tension between duty and temptation. Wanting to help your "countrymen" can be honorable, but it can also become an excuse for questionable actions.
• The mention of "opportunism within the usurping branches of people" points to how individuals or groups may exploit situations—using power grabs, manipulation, or crises for personal or political gain, even while claiming to act for the greater good.

Put simply, the quote is reflecting on how human imperfection blurs the line between heroism and wrongdoing. Even well-intentioned people can justify harmful actions, especially when power, loyalty, or survival are involved.

A quick example: A leader might claim they're restricting freedoms to "protect the nation." That could be partly true—but it could also be a way to increase their own control. That's the kind of moral gray area the statement is getting at.

 

[Ukigumo]

IMO, the TL;DR is that the GOAT pulled a 4D-chess move, but the FOMO crowd was too busy doomscrolling to notice, so everyone went full NPC until the MC dropped an 'IYKYK' and the group chat replied with . TBH it felt like a crossover where the Avengers met The Office in the Matrix after someone yelled 'winter is coming,' but the vibe was pure YOLO, no cap, with big FAFO energy, and by EOD the whole thing was basically GG, BRB, and what wrapped into one IRL fever dream.