We are talking Japan. You SIT next to people. You have crotchs and arses mushed into you. You have people sleep on your shoulder. One guy in a suit is NOT offensive here.budd said:"She reinforced some of my opinions about old people."
people there just don't like to sit next to each other on trains period
i seen plenty of japanese guys get up and move down or away from each other, and they looked close in age + didn't smell (as far as i could tell)
most lucky that old woman didn't have no heart attack and the other folks call the police (as a result)
I give back whats given to me. Why be reserved? Why let her win her petty little games?Well, she'll probably tell others about it. Such stuff goes round & it will come back to you & maybe others with darker skin (if she makes a racial issue of it). Maybe you should think a bit into the future before harassing people, even if you're "a bit beered up." Sometimes it's a nice move to be a bit reserved.
You really don't understand, do you? Oh well...FirstHousePooka said:Why be reserved?
She showed no reserve. She acted rude in the first place. If you're trying to hint that in Japan people are reserved than how does it explain her?bossel said:You really don't understand, do you? Oh well...
So what? I don't really see your problem with it. Maybe you really smelled "beery" or looked like a drunkard? Or she simply disliked your clothing.FirstHousePooka said:I see getting up and moving away for no real good reason after glowering at me and clutching her bag rude.
FirstHousePooka said:I figure the death stare of doom, their dirty look aplified, refined and shot abck, works even better.
My fave day was when I was a bit beered up. I sat on a train, quietly and unobtrosively I might add, when an old lady that was next to me got up and MOVED a few seats down away from me. So being a bit courageous, I got up and moved back next too her. She did it again. So did I.
FUN!
First time. As soon as I sat down she clutched her bag close, hesitated and jittered off.budd said:was it the first time she got up? or the second or third?
My clothing was a simplky HORRID business suit. You know, that HORRIBLE style people wear in business or too look professional? The real offensive stuff.bossel said:So what? I don't really see your problem with it. Maybe you really smelled "beery" or looked like a drunkard? Or she simply disliked your clothing.
Can't see why it should be necessarily racist motivated.
Can't speak very good Japanese too ask her.Even if it was racist, so what? With your behaviour you only reinforced any racial prejudice, as I said before. Behaving politely & respectfully may have done the opposite. You may have even asked her politely if you'd done anything wrong.
Meh.Although, considering you being "beered up", probably the best move would have been just to let it be.
So, I get called for sitting next to a racist old bat, but a guy says he hates caucasians, especially men that talk to asian girls, even ones not his 'blood' and no-one says a word? Is this a bit odd to anyone else?cyber ape said:Well, I know that when I see a white guy hitting on an Asian female I get offended and want to stop them, even if they're no one I know and the Asian isn't my blood.
Well, I can't speak for Japan, so I really don't know. I never had a problem with anyone, until I moved here. Now, I really, really DESPISE caucasians. Of course, I look Caucasian, so everbody thinks I'm just a contradicting self-hating fool. Oh well.
budd said:no. some foreigners go there strictly to date women, and they are giving ALL foreigners a bad name
some people got serious beef with the u.s. about that tourist that was killed also
so the beef may have nothing to do with being of color, but of being american
"What positive aspect is there for me to look forward to?"
don't date anyone and just enjoy the culture and the sights
the buildings are still the same
if HAPPENING to see someone dropping dirty looks, smile at them. it hurts so bad, believe me
chikazukiyasui said:This post is strange. Are you sure they were staring at you because you were black? Are you sure there wasn't maybe a strange message on his tee-shirt? Was your fly undone? Do you look like someone famous? Where were you? Maybe those tourists were wondering if they could talk to your friends? Why have you not spoken to your friends since?
Not too odd. For you, there is still hope. But this ape seems slightly beyond reason.FirstHousePooka said:So, I get called for sitting next to a racist old bat, but a guy says he hates caucasians, especially men that talk to asian girls, even ones not his 'blood' and no-one says a word? Is this a bit odd to anyone else?
Actually, after reading some other posts by the ape, some things don't add up. At all.bossel said:Not too odd. For you, there is still hope. But this ape seems slightly beyond reason.
So he hates any caucasians but he isn't a 'full blood' Japanese? Self loathing?Well, I've only been to Okinawa for a week and to Tokyo, well, for only one day, so I know little of Japan, but I do watch the little Japanese programming I receive here and everytime I watch it I just wanna cry. I'm like,"They treat it like life, I treat it like paradise." Seriously, although I was only 7, going to Japan was just great. Unfortunately since I'm not only HALF Japanese(which, I don't really look Japanese, but I'm still 50% and thus act it), so I look more like a gaijin, but since I've been here I've had to re-learn the language. Anyways, all I've ever seen is how great atleast Tokyo is. OK, so, granted it may be difficult finding work, mainly because my parents have no interest in going and don't know anything of the language, but even so. I just love my country.
which is a blatant untruthManga & Anime: Of course! Seriously, I can't find a single Jap who DOESN'T like one or the other. I mean, they come in all genres for all ages. I don't see why there'd be an opposition, cept by gaijins totally misinterpreting anime. "Why's their hair blue? " *ugh*
Japan didn't did they?Video games: They started it all! Again, all ages, all genres. I am an absolute DDR FREAK! I remember when I first played DDR in Tokyo. I sucked and was laughed at, but then when I found the local American Arcade got it I tried it. Again no good, but then Playstation had it, and THAT did it.
Wait is he Japanese or not? Now he is referring to Japanese as they, not we. And foreigners, which make him angry, as ours and we. what?Japanese language: Well, I love it because of the way it sounds, but the sentence structure always made me mad. I like the language, but I wish they'd invent words instead of just taking ours. I know they're foreign but even so. Nobu? Key? Dooru? Takshii? Come on!
*sigh* yet he seems very much to be one himself.Japanese food: Man, even the ignorant gaijins I have to put up with every day love Japanese food.
There was no such implication. I usually don't imply anything.FirstHousePooka said:Oh and bossel I resent the implication in your post that I am racist.
Hmm...that's odd your sig in your profile says:cyber ape said:You know, I never said the other half.
You know that's really sad. So, I guess that means you don't like that parent with Caucasian bloodline. What you said is far from healthy. Really, you have got to learn to accept yourself.cyber ape said:I don't care if it's self-loathing or not. I will unabashedly say that I highly DISLIKE Caucasians.
Didn't you say you went to Japan? I have no idea if you noticed, but being of mixed ancestry kind of makes you a foreigner. You did say you have Greek, Caucasian, and Egyptian ancestry. None of which are native to Japan, therefore, you are considered a foreigner.cyber ape said:I'm a foreigner?
I suppose that is no different than how some blacks in the US use a certain derogatory word amongst each other. However, I must warn you some Japanese people (my friend included) detest such words. So, be careful of who you use that word around.cyber ape said:I apologize if I don't believe in the racial ephitet. Firstly because it is the associative term used by the majority of my friends, mainly to infringe on the fact that it is often misconstrued as a racial comment, but also because, you wouldn't say ,"I am a Japanese." You say "I am Japanese" or "I am a Jap."
cyber ape said:"Now, Mr C Ape. would you want to stop that?"
If I saw a man with spiked hair, I too would likely be enticed to touch, or atleast marvel. Either way, I'd be more at ease in Japan, mainly because I wouldn't be as unhappy there as I am here.
"So he hates any caucasians but he isn't a 'full blood' Japanese? Self loathing?"
You know, I never said the other half. For all you know I could be 50 % Japanese, 50 % Indian. If you must know, I'm 50 % Japanese, 25 % Greek, 20% Caucasian, 5% Egyptian. I don't care if it's self-loathing or not. I will unabashedly say that I highly DISLIKE Caucasians.
"Cyber ape: what, what did i do? O__o"
Nothing?
"Here he shows taht he deosn't even know what a Japanese futon is."
So? I didn't know of Doraemon until August...
"Japan didn't did they?"
'Fraid so. Konami is a Japanese company.
"sigh* yet he seems very much to be one himself."
I'm a foreigner?
"Plus why is continuously referring to himself or other Japanese as Japs? Somethings not right with the ape."
I apologize if I don't believe in the racial ephitet. Firstly because it is the associative term used by the majority of my friends, mainly to infringe on the fact that it is often misconstrued as a racial comment, but also because, you wouldn't say ,"I am a Japanese." You say "I am Japanese" or "I am a Jap."
cyber ape said:"Cyber ape: what, what did i do? O__o"
Nothing?
cyber ape said:"Why do you dislike me then?"
I do?
"Am I missing something here?"
There are people of white complexion in every country.
"You know that's really sad. So, I guess that means you don't like that parent with Caucasian bloodline. What you said is far from healthy. Really, you have got to learn to accept yourself."
I accept myself just fine. So what if I don't like the parent of Caucasian bloodline? There isn't a rule saying in order to live life to the fullest you must love either of your parents.
"Didn't you say you went to Japan? I have no idea if you noticed, but being of mixed ancestry kind of makes you a foreigner. You did say you have Greek, Caucasian, and Egyptian ancestry. None of which are native to Japan, therefore, you are considered a foreigner."
So, even though the majority of my blood is Japanese and I was born in Okinawa, I'm a foreigner? Damn, that sucks.
"So, be careful of who you use that word around."
I'm highly aware. I really only call myself and my friends "that word".
"1. What does that have to do with the relationships between caucasians and asians? Why do you even care what race they are so long as their feelings are real? This isn't rape or molestation etc., so there's no reason to get angry over it. So quit making comments like that before you make somone (i.e., me) sick."
Well, perhaps mad wasn't the right word. This really has more to do with my past. I've moved on past this infantile block, but you'd really have to know more about my life to know why I get the way I do around Caucasians.
"2. Now, why do you DISLIKE Caucasians? Did you have a bad experience with each and every single caucasian on the planet that caused you to dislike them? That'd be pretty damn difficult, I think."
I never specified the quantity of Caucasians. I guess I'll just have to be literal around this place. I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians. Actually, I don't even mean that. I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia.
"5. Now, I'm sorry, but you are blatantly wrong about that. The first video games were released in america."
What are you talking about? I didn't say the first video games weren't, I said DDR was invented in Japan. Iuno what you're babbling about :?
"6. I believe he's referring to the fact that you are claiming to defend the interests of Japanese, without really being one. Now, no offense, but that would be a little bit like a white person talking from a personal perspective about how blacks are mistreated. It comes off as arrogant."
I talk about how African Americans are being mistreated all the time XD. Look, when I say we, I'm talking about the people. If I were in India, would I say "They have great food, weather, government, entertainment, etc"? No! I'd say "WE", although I'm not the least bit Indian.
"7. Well, I don't know if you know this, but "Jap" was a derrogatory term used by american troops to refer to the Japanese during WWII, so it shouldn't be used lightly, unless of course you like offending people who might know what it really means."
I'm well aware of that. I apologize if I like to give it a more coherent, less racial meaning -_-
And by the way, why are you all trying to gang-up on me? I signed up here so I could meet and talk about Japan and the Japanese, not so I could enter a one-sided exploiting war.
Ah, so you know the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia. Okay...I'm guessing by that statement you meant the majority of Caucasians you've come in contact with while in Georgia.cyber ape said:"I highly dislike the majority of Caucasians within the state of Georgia."
Kei_Shugojin basically said what I was thinking...except for that ending. That was a bit extreme, but I got the point. You can't expect people to just nod and agree to everything you say. Besides, what made this a one-sided exploiting war? I don't remember waging war against you or anyone else here...care to explain that one?cyber ape said:And by the way, why are you all trying to gang-up on me? I signed up here so I could meet and talk about Japan and the Japanese, not so I could enter a one-sided exploiting war.
Of course there is. Racism is a horrible little thing that spreads through ignorance. I could name a good amount of countries with the problem, but that's another story and would go completely off the initial topic.Kenshin89 said:Wow...I never really thought there was racism outside the US until I saw this...never really thought about it actually.
fully racism...jst ignore them n keep walking n if they come up n insult them kill em all! muhahahahaShin Asura said:I was walking with my Japanese friend at school today and there were so many Japanese students giving me bad looks. When I got home, I emailed her and asked why Japanese people don't like black people. She told me that she thinks it's because Japanese people think that cultures are supposed to stay together and not mix with one another.
Is it because Japan has been so closed to foreigners for the longest time, I think there was an Emperor that made it illegal for foreigners to visit Japan awhile ago, I guess this is still in the Japanese minds, even today.
That's pretty sad if you ask me.
Awhile ago, I took two Japanese girls out and we ran into a group of Japanese tourists, all they did was stare at us, one of the girls I took out has an I don't want to be here look. I took them home and never called them again.
I don't want to be a target for staring everytime I go out with my Japanese friends or maybe one day I find a Japanese girlfriend, but I'm thinking that will never happen.