Why are there other forums in here besides the Japanese one.

[Elizabeth]

I think the forums need to be seperated, this is JREF pure and simple.
Since the mix and matching going on alot of threads have been going on about everything but japan.

It definately doesn't function anymore as a way to get closer to everyday Japanese life, not to mention entire realms of current affairs, politics and government, business, economics or culture that are barely given a passing mention these days. Gradually even the admins seem to have also lost more and more interest in their own creation. ☝ The language forum is still respectable enough, though, which is where I hang out despite having a level of independent fluency. Hehehe

 

[Davey]

It definately doesn't function anymore as a way to get closer to everyday Japanese life, not to mention entire realms of current affairs, politics and government, business, economics or culture that are barely given a passing mention these days. Gradually even the admins seem to have also lost more and more interest in their own creation. ☝ The language forum is still respectable enough, though, which is where I hang out despite having a level of independent fluency. Hehehe

Well I think the Japan practical section and the Japan all thing Japanese is also still okay, but it needs more attention, and you won't get that by having Chinese / europedia forum, but that will change soon, and also the Jpop section...

I know that Thomas doesn't have much time, but there are enough people in here that also can do stuff like that... can't they?

 

[Minty]

[I think the forums need to be seperated, this is JREF pure and simple.
Since the mix and matching going on alot of threads have been going on about everything but japan.

[It definately doesn't function anymore as a way to get closer to everyday Japanese life, not to mention entire realms of current affairs, politics and government, business, economics or culture that are barely given a passing mention these days. Gradually even the admins seem to have also lost more and more interest in their own creation. ☝ The language forum is still respectable enough, though, which is where I hang out despite having a level of independent fluency. Hehehe

If people don't want to read about things to do with China or Europe with the exception of some that get cross over when we talk about Japan, just don't click on the China or Europe section.

Anyway I notice unlike the Japanese and other discussion sections when we made new posts in the China/Europe section they are not shown on the main forum but only if you click on those sections then you will see them.

Despite of Chinese and Japanese's controversy issues I notice there are China towns in Japan, so I suppose if you really can't stand Chinese just don't visit there. But you can't deny their right to exist.

 

[Glenn]

I think you took that a bit too far at the end there. I doubt anyone wants to deny the existence of Chinese people or China. The point is that they don't see why there should be a forum dedicated to them here.

 

[Minty]

I think you took that a bit too far at the end there. I doubt anyone wants to deny the existence of Chinese people or China. The point is that they don't see why there should be a forum dedicated to them here.

Maybe, it's just that recently every time I logged on, there are quite some number of people who either want to block Chinese forum or are not happy that there is a Chinese forum here or not happy that there are Chinese people here to talk about other things than Japan.

But if I did overemphasize, I apologise.:sorry:

 

[Mikawa Ossan]

That's partly because the China Forum is the newest addition to our "family". But if it makes you feel better, I will tell you that I for one don't like the Europe Forum either.

 

[4321go]

Why should we argue about this ~?
This is a forum ,and with the topic of Japan, but not all the people here from Japan ,in fact ,few of the members come form Japan,so it should give a station for the members ,I think it is a wise decision~ I like this style~

 

[MrsAmberface]

well i think that there are plent OTHER forums out there about china and korea. if someone wants to talk about the neighboring countrys. go find another forum. i'm not a very rude person but i did sign up for this forum to learn about japan...not every other place AND japan

 

[Davey]

Why should we argue about this ~?
This is a forum ,and with the topic of Japan, but not all the people here from Japan ,in fact ,few of the members come form Japan,so it should give a station for the members ,I think it is a wise decision~ I like this style~

Why should we argue about this? are you serious with this question? did you read all the posts in this section and other threads about this topic?

People sign up/come to this forum to discuse about Japan, that's why we argue about this!

 

[Elizabeth]

Why should we argue about this? are you serious with this question? did you read all the posts in this section and other threads about this topic?
People sign up/come to this forum to discuse about Japan, that's why we argue about this!

I don't see why it is even still an issue either. How many forums on China does anyone know that have a Japanese "mirror" or "partner" site just because the two countries have had intertwining relations throughout history and there are a lot of Japanese living in China ? It's absolutely unthinkable the protests would be so overwhelming it wouldn't be tolorated for even a single day, no ?

 

[Minty]

I understand for some people here their purpose of joining is to learn about Japan not China or Europe. But they can just not click on the sub sections or other discussion sections which are not about Japan and concentrate only on the Japanese sections.

While the members who want to talk about other things as well as Japan go to all sections available in the forum.

 

[Elizabeth]

I understand for some people here their purpose of joining is to learn about Japan not China or Europe. But they can just not click on the sub sections or other discussion sections which are not about Japan and concentrate only on the Japanese sections.
While the members who want to talk about other things as well as Japan go to all sections available in the forum.

The problem very simply becomes when more and more members begin joining primarily for the Europe /China /environmental/religious, etc discussions which quickly reach a critical mass that spill over into the nominally "Japan" sections of the board. At which point, if it hasn't been reached already, it ceases to become a place for serious focused discussion on Japan and becomes a free for all for anyone who doesn't feel the onus is on them to stop leaching off the generosity of a very well-managed, generally compliant (agreeable, friendly) forum environment and seek out a more like-minded site for themselves.

 

[MajideSaiaku]

This is a forum for a website about Japan, pure and simple.

We dont want to avoid these other sections, we want them gone or somewhere else entirely.

They should be on a seperate forum on their own website K, this is J-ref, Japan reference, not "talk about every last pointless bit of global interest reference".

Make J-ref J-ref again and put the other forums elsewhere.

 

[Elizabeth]

Yeah, it isn't a matter of the time and intellectual effort of sifting through all the non-Japan related topics (although that can be inconvenient). As a matter of principle, those other threads shouldn't be here to begin with and certainly not proliferating the way they have lately.

On the other hand, I know a solution is being worked on so I'm willing to give everyone some space to get a permanent solution in order and life at JREF back on the high road again.

 

[Elizabeth van Kampen]

Japan has always fascinated the world, and although this is a Japanese Forum there are nevertheless that not many Japanese joining us.
Through Internet we can reach the whole world, I think that's fascinating too.
I bet that many Japanese are very interested in Europe. I always see so many Japanese tourist taking many pictures overhere.
Many Japanese busines have opened their branche offices in Europe and quite some European towns have sister-towns in Japan.
Japanese are living in the USA and Europe and we are living in Japan.
I also guess that the Chinese and Korean people understand the Japanese much better than we from Europe and America ever will.
To me all three Forums are okay.

 

[MajideSaiaku]

If this forum was to purge a few of the more non-japanese related forums to the Eupedia one, and have more Japane related articles in Thread post format in the forums, it might get people with an actual interest in japan signing up, and contributing, thats the main pull of J-ref, the Japan curious, we should embrace that rather then shun it for the generalist interests of a sector of our forum population.

The split seems decent enough.