When you accidently bump against one member of Yakuza.

Mike Cash · 25 Sep 2005

Silverpoint said:
You understood what he said!?

No. That's why I had to ask for clarification.

Davey · 25 Sep 2005

okay.. this thread is going another way...

if this is serieus or not, what would you do, when the yakuza do this,, take a look at the first posts,,,

Silverpoint · 25 Sep 2005

At the risk of just throwing it right back at you, my immediate reaction would be "how the hell do I know?" Unless you find yourself in such a situation (which is incredibly unlikely) I don't think anyone can tell what they would do. We can all postulate on the best course of action, but without directly seeing the incident, no one cannot possibly predict what would happen.

Mike Cash · 25 Sep 2005

dutch baka said:
okay.. this thread is going another way...

if this is serieus or not, what would you do, when the yakuza do this,, take a look at the first posts,,,

The three of us who actually live here in Japan seem to have been pretty much of the opinion that the question is based on a flawed premise born of ignorance and stereotypes.

If you accidentally bump into a yakuza, say "excuse me", and go about your business.

Davey · 25 Sep 2005

mm okay what ever you want, there goes the nice first couple of posts.. well i like them..

Mikawa Ossan · 25 Sep 2005

Oh, well, if this was meant to be humorous, it should be in the humor section.

turboqueercabdriver · 26 Sep 2005

dutch baka said:
scream.. SUSHIIII..
Kick there balls..
tell them they can F&&k off..
call the cops..
act like a fool and stare at them..
show them your gun..
talk kansai ben to look cool .. Nandeyanen..
cry..

Yakuza has almost all controll over the police department.

ArmandV · 26 Sep 2005

Use the old Bob Hope/Bing Crosby "pattycake" trick.

xerxes99 · 26 Sep 2005

ArmandV said:
Use the old Bob Hope/Bing Crosby "pattycake" trick.

I've been wanting to use that trick since I was like 8 years old.

Jack · 26 Sep 2005

its simple, if the yakuza bump into you, you start kicking ***!!!

Minxie · 27 Sep 2005

Hi guys, How can you tell who is yakuza and who are not? I did read the thread so far, and no one really gave distinct characteristics. I know they are starting to integrate with the populus, and are starting to wear "normal" clothes, but are there any tell-tale ways of spotting them, or do I still have to look for the missing finger?

thanks a lot, and sorry if im repeating questions etc

Revenant · 27 Sep 2005

Minxie said:
but are there any tell-tale ways of spotting them, or do I still have to look for the missing finger?

I don't think so, unless you're talking about the bottom of the barrel guys often called Chinpira. If they are trying to intergrate, I think a lost finger wouldn't do them very well.

Pachipro · 27 Sep 2005

Revenant said:
I don't think so, unless you're talking about the bottom of the barrel guys often called Chinpira. If they are trying to intergrate, I think a lost finger wouldn't do them very well.

I posted a story on my run in with the Chinpira a while back. Luckily we were saved by the older Yakuza who happened to hear what was going on outside.

While I was living there back in the day it was quite easy to spot Yakuza by their dress, hairstyle, and the ever-present sunglasses they wore. A lot of them had tatoos on their body that were only visible when they had their shirts off or were participating in carrying the shrines (omikoshi) during festivals.

I had a couple of friends who were yakuza and often hung out with them on occassion. They were always polite and respectful to the general population and I never noticed them starting any trouble although they would often argue among themselves.

It was always an advantage having them as friends as if you ever got into any trouble they would be there to help you even in getting you an apartment to live.

About the missing finger thing. Only if one wronged his group or boss and made them lose face would they have to cut off their pinky and present it to their boss as an atonement for their wrongs. Alot of the Yakuza I saw weren't missing any pinkys although I did notice a couple now and then.

Silverpoint · 27 Sep 2005

Minxie said:
Hi guys, How can you tell who is yakuza and who are not?

Look for the big "YAKUZA!" sign on the side of their trucks.

Jack · 27 Sep 2005

Silverpoint said:
Look for the big "YAKUZA!" sign on the side of their trucks.

i saw them trucks they've the phrase "you didn't see us" beneath the name yakuza.

Kinsao · 27 Sep 2005

I think it's pretty well the same in most countries, that it's the small time wannabes that make most of the trouble. The serious criminals obviously don't want to be too much noticed - not if they've got any sense.

Jack · 27 Sep 2005

Kinsao said:
I think it's pretty well the same in most countries, that it's the small time wannabes that make most of the trouble. The serious criminals obviously don't want to be too much noticed - not if they've got any sense.

exactly no one stands out if they dont want to be seen, do they?

lexico · 27 Sep 2005

A preacher back in the States told me a horror story; back in the olden times ... (can't exactly remember when) ... an owner of a farm over an oil-deposit refused to sell his farm. The oil company sent some of its henchmen touting rifles demanding either sign or face the gun. They were supposedly law enforcement officers, or disguised as such. There were more horror stories about an oil refinery company dumping toxic waste in a neighbourhood, but when confronted by the residents, did some scary things there, and that was not chemical this time.

If the stories that he learned in the ministry were true, small-time wannabies are not the only ones stirring up trouble. Yakuzas are not only in Japan, but they are everywhere, even in the upper echelon of the mightiest country the US. If you ever bump into one of those, and you know they are after you for something, better give in or you are dead.

Silverpoint · 27 Sep 2005

Of course there are Mafioso in the US, but I doubt they are the same as hired thugs working for corporate concerns. As far as I know, the Mafia aren't generally for hire.

Mars Man · 28 Sep 2005

For the sake of humor, although it should be elsewhere if it's for that, I agree, if I were surrounded by a small group of them after bumping into them, I'd first look real scared, shaking and swallowing hard--you know, the whole act--then pull out my keitai (cell phone), answer it, and then hand it to whom I percieved to be the leader, saying 'it's for you' [denwa desu] give him the phone and make tracts like fast !! Quit my job sell out and leave town.

But as others have said, it's not like that. Good or bad, I do not know, but I have worked for establishments run by the yakuza, I was taught their hiearchial (sp?) way of running things, and their mode of operation. They did encourage us to suck a little money from customers but not too much. I ran the kitchen for a pub/cafe they owned--hours 7:30 to 4:00am. They had several bars and some customers were kind of shown the rounds as each bar is different, and ours was usually the last because of the cafe and gaijin addition. I worked there for about a year and several months, then graciously backed out--the work hours were getting to me and I was planning on getting married. But the yakuza were pretty much regular people--as said before.

Index · 28 Sep 2005

Silverpoint said:
Of course there are Mafioso in the US, but I doubt they are the same as hired thugs working for corporate concerns. As far as I know, the Mafia aren't generally for hire.

So you are saying you don't know much?

Silverpoint · 28 Sep 2005

Index said:
So you are saying you don't know much?

My point was that I find it hard to believe the Mafia spend a lot of time working as dumb thugs enforcing for corporations. If you know better, why not tell us instead of wasting everyone's time with childish insults.

Minxie · 28 Sep 2005

Pachipro said:
I posted a story on my run in with the Chinpira a while back.

That was a very interesting read. I'm glad everything worked out in the end. Chinpira remind me of Neos in Fraternities these days, only because the "Neos" like to act all tough, start fights everywhere, and act like they've got a stick up their arse.

Silverpoint said:
Look for the big "YAKUZA!" sign on the side of their trucks.

jack2 said:
i saw them trucks they've the phrase "you didn't see us" beneath the name yakuza.

If I see that when I go to Japan, I'm gonna take a picture of that. that's hilarious.

Thanks to everyone else who also answered my question. I have a really good idea of what to look for, and what to do in situations where I might run into chinpira or yakuza. I think I'd be more scared to run into the Chinpira versus the Yakuza though. Oh, and thanks for clarifying things about the yakuza's missing finger.

Also: The Mafia only work in their collective group, so they work for "hire" within themselves. If you cause them trouble, they'll give you trouble. If you're nice to them, they'll be nice to you. Usually you can tell who's mafia and who's not (well sometimes), but it's always best to stay out of their way or turn a blind eye.

lexico · 29 Sep 2005

mikecash said:
No. That's why I had to ask for clarification.

I am sorry if I was not clear, but I really meant it when I said, "out of fearful respect." Some people really hate creating a new thread on the same topic of an old thread. But I gather from your somewhat perplexed response that you do not mind :?

lexico · 29 Sep 2005

Silverpoint said:
Of course there are Mafioso in the US, but I doubt they are the same as hired thugs working for corporate concerns. As far as I know, the Mafia aren't generally for hire.

I think you mean to say the oil businesses are not owned by the Mafia. I meant to say that there might be a mob that owns the oil businesses, perhaps not by the name of Mafia.

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