What is a valid reason not to hunt whales for meat?

What is a valid reason not to hunt whales for meat?

  • Because whale hunting is cruel and causes excessive suffering

    Votes: 15 22.1%

  • Because whale meat is not healthy to eat

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Because whales are cute / beautiful

    Votes: 2 2.9%

  • Because whales are endangered

    Votes: 41 60.3%

  • Because whales are intelligent

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Because of something else (please state)

    Votes: 8 11.8%
  • Total voters
    68
duff_o_josh said:
People dont just eat endagered whales, most places that i have been to in japan for whale are these small tiny fish that happen to be a whale ?
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you also have to remember that most whale that is eaten in japan are small little whales, smaller then a sockeye salmon. Is that a big deal ? the thing isn't cute, it doesnt make nuge noises. where is the harm in it ?
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You mean on top of eating whale flesh, you eat baby whales ? 😲
 
Sorry Lexico. Seems that I posted first again 😊
But I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one wishing a better life to those big-sea's-teddy-bears :-)
 
Hmm well I didnt read through, so hope that im not repeating something that somebody else has said.... but.... Whale hunting is not just unnecessary, but the flesh itself can eminate a certain toxin which can be detrimental to a persons health, if not actually killing the consumer.
If you dont believe me look it up, I learnt about it when going Whale and Dolphin watching once. Unfortunately my Japanese friend got a little harrassed for having eaten the flesh before, but the guide soon summed up the other reasons why we shouldnt eat it.
Also the fact that they used the blubber for soaps and other such things, when there are plenty of other sources available to make such things is a bit harsh.
But yeah, feel free to prove me wrong, I have been known to be a bit gullible in the past, but do look it up before assuming that what I have said is completely stupid.
When I have more time, I myself will do more research into the particular topic.
 
From what I have heard, you are correct. Last I heard, they do hold a lot of toxins in their blubber alone.Mercury probably being one of them; just like sharks. It's kind of ironic, isn't it? We contaminate the sea and then that affects the wild-life in it and then we kill them and eat them and get even more contaminated ourselves.

Good, ol' nature's revenge really! :p

Mamoru-kun said:
If cows were to desapear too, perhaps would it be time to finally create synthetic meat, or whatever it can be, without being forced to kill a living creature (except plants of course. Cut all those green things and trees! There's too much sssspiders there...beuuuuh :p ). No, seriously, wouldn't it be better (well, at least for our mind and/or soul)?

And amough all the suggestions of this topic (because they are cute, because they are almost instinct, because it's not good meat,...), I'm surprise not to see the most important one (well I mean, for me): because they just are living creatures, like us humans...
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So...Animals shouldn't eat other animals either? Humans are animals and we're omnivorous, which, of course, means we eat both vegetables and meat. We need meant. However, we do need to be much, much more intelligent, responsible, respectful, cautious, wise, and everything like that as we go about it, especially if we're going to claim that we are superior and more intelligent.

Also, if humans stopped eating meat, we'd need much more bigger farms which would mean more habitat destruction and, thusly, more animal death and more animals going on the endangered list or, worst yet, going completely and utterly extinct.

Not to mention that, on big farms, big machinery is used to harvest the crops and quess what happens then? Field animals, like mice, rats, snakes, rabbits, and the like, get chopped up. And also they don't get eaten either. At least when we kill animals for food, we do use at least some of it. Or, more like it, we have the intention as I'm sure, in North America anyway, a lot of meat is brought and then kept in the freezer for 10+ years and becomes horribly freezer burnt, but nevertheless.
 
who eats the flesh? people eat the meat not the skin of a whale. has anyone here who is against whale actually ever eaten it? and they are not baby whales, they are a breed of whale that are just small.
 
duff_o_josh said:
who eats the flesh? people eat the meat not the skin of a whale. has anyone here who is against whale actually ever eaten it? and they are not baby whales, they are a breed of whale that are just small.
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Why precisely would we want to eat meat of an endangered animal that also has lots and lots of toxins in it? Doesn't make much sense to me...

Not to mention, I'm not sure it's legal to poach whales in Canada...

Also, how small is 'small'? I mean, it's a whale. And I've never heard of a tiny, little species of whale either and I'm quite knowledgeable about animals in general...

EDIT: Here's something here:

3) What is the smallest cetacean?
There are several contenders for the 'smallest cetacean award'. Hector's Dolphin, the Chilean Dolphin, the Vaquita and the Finless Porpoise can all be as small as 1.2m in length. In terms of weight, however, the Finless Porpoise is the lightest, only weighing between 30-45kg.
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Taken from this site's FAQ area: cetacea.org
 
Why would people against whale hunting intentionally eat it?
Its not like a vegetarian who doesnt like the taste of the meat, opposed to one who is anti animal killing etc. Its on a slightly different scale.
Also if the whale hunters caught a 'baby whale' at first thinking that it was this 'small breed' of whale do you really think that they are going to release it back to the sea? If they are callous enough in the first place to be catching an endangered species for human consumption, I think that they are still going to be able to fetch a high price, because no matter how small a whale is, its always going to be bigger than your average salmon or snapper. Perhaps it could be of a similar size to a large tuna, but then Im not really in the mood to research this topic at this time.
 
Kara_Nari said:
Also if the whale hunters caught a 'baby whale' at first thinking that it was this 'small breed' of whale do you really think that they are going to release it back to the sea ? If they are callous enough in the first place to be catching an endangered species for human consumption...
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I believe they are hunting on a quota, and still bound by the whaling regulations. I would assume letting go of baby whales is a requirement. It's less a problem of callousness, but of legality and regulated whaling. There must be a happy balance somewhere. 😊
 
Of course there are other ways....whats better, 100 cows dying, 1000 chickens or one whale? where is the difference?
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Well there is actually a difference, that being that cows and chickens are bred for human consumption, as are salmon and other species of fishes.
If you like, you can show me a site on a whale farm where the whales are being bred for consumption and other unncecessary things... but I would have thought that if a whale farm existed, then wouldnt it be more for the preservation of an endangered species? Clearly that is a difference, no?
 
how are salmon bred for human consumption? is there salmon farms? if so i am unaware. i am asking the name of that small whale so ill post it soon. also how can you care enough for one animal and not the others? that makes no sense?and how is every whale suddenly endagered?! there is more then 100 different types of whale! how are they all endagered? the one whale that is endagered is the sperm whale and that is used for perfume. also the inuit of northern Canada hunt whales legally.
 
Yeah there are salmon farms. Also there are protected parts of rivers where the salmons go to lay their eggs that poachers/fishermen arent allowed to fish, and there are serious repercussions if they dont abide by these rules.
Its common knowledge that Whales are endangered. Otherwise there wouldnt be companies like Greenpeace etc trying to protect them. There wouldnt be anti Whaling campaigns all around the world.
Anyway, my initial argument was about the toxins in the whale meat.
I dont even mind that you dont care about Whales being hunted, thats your own choice. I was just stating a fact that I had learnt.
Also as I said before, look it up before assuming that im completely stupid.
Dont get me wrong, I enjoy reading your posts on other threads. But you are being ever so slightly belittling here.
 
the way you say things is like every whale in teh ocean is endagered, well they are not. also not every whale has toxins. Researching more i am begining to sway to your side only because i didnt realize how big of a role whales played in our oxygen cycle. Most greenpeace articles on whales are biased. also those protected salmon farms and river parts do not apply to native canadians who can do what they wish with salmon. wheres the protection there? they throw huge nets across the river and drag them in. also i never said you were stupid in any of my posts. as for calling me belittling, this cant all be positive, not all of us are hippies.
 
duff_o_josh said:
Researching more i am begining to sway to your side only because i didnt realize how big of a role whales played in our oxygen cycle.
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That is a good exemple of what I don't like with nature preservation nowodays (nothing with you especially Duff). The fact that: "We must protect X because it brings us something good". Does it mean that we shouldn't protect something if it doesn't specifically "bring" something good to human beings?!?
 
Mamoru-kun said:
That is a good exemple of what I don't like with nature preservation nowodays (nothing with you especially Duff). The fact that: "We must protect X because it brings us something good". Does it mean that we shouldn't protect something if it doesn't specifically "bring" something good to human beings?!?
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Good point, Mamoru-kun. I totally agree to your point that sometimes 'use' should come secondary. Some things should be valued in themselves.

I also feel that since to be able to see the value of something without consulting the dollar value or the environmental value is sometimes almost impossible to convey to another person, and to win support, there comes the inevitable "good use" thingy just to find a common ground between people having vastly differing ideas. In that sense, I also approve of Duff's reasoning.
 
well for me i dont see a problem eating whale, and there are lots of people like that. its fare enough to push the fact that whales play a huge role in our oxygen cycle to try and sway people to stop hunting them for food, but i am sure that the thousands of whales that died to prove this point were over looked by conservation groups. a report by bbc news said that japans annual quota for the hunting of whales to use as scientific purposes and then later sold as food is 3000 a year which is 0.05% of the minke whale population which they want to hunt.

i am sorry for going off the original topic,

i chose other, because whales playa big part in our oxygen cycle.
 
Duff, those are very interesting stuff. if it isn't too much trouble, could you perhaps share some of the links ? please ?
 
Eating endangered whale is like eating panda without guilt or remorse.

I dont see why eating a whale is a delicacy, to me it seems more of a lack of compassion and you know, respect for life in general, when you eat an endangered species.

Of course thats my personal opinion so, its no way universal dogma or anything.

I have a taste for beef so if cows became endangered, it might be a big deal for me to give it up, some folk might have grown up on whale....unlikely, but still, a possibility.
 
Mamoru-kun said:
.........perhaps because you'll be asked how it tasted, don't you think? :p
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Then, i'll say it tasted good...which is quite a subjective answer, isn't it?
The meat in the "kujira burger" is prepared as "tatsuta-age" (meat is shôyu-marinated and starch-fried).
 

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