- 19 Jan 2005
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Thank you Doc for clarifying your point there. Sorry I didn't catch where you were coming from originally. Maybe I read too much into it. Now I understand where you are coming from and I think you are correct in your opinion that there is a problem in this country with people having a TOO casual attitude towards sex these days and too many people looking to have sex anytime with anyone anywhere.Doc said:Still having a lot of people living that kind of lifestyle is a problem, and I know I for one wouldn't want to live. However, as they say different strokes for different folks. If you want to sit there in a shallow mind set, being in a drug, alcohol, and bad sex induced haze then more power to you. As I said I'm not denying that humanity doesn't need casual sex, after all committed and loving partners do it with each other all the time. I'm just saying living a fully hedonistic life where casual sex is the routine can be severely damaging in the end. Of course the same can be said about too little sex, and because of dogmatic morons who think they can make the decisions for us, you then have people who do go off to prostitutes and the like to get their fill or fix of
I mean just look at the attitudes of teenagers in the US these days. Everything they do, say, see, and wear is geared towards one thing: SEX and attracting the opposite sex. Especially among females. And where did they get that attitude and way of thinking? TV that's where in my opinion. After spending more than a decade and a half in Japan I was just literally shocked when I returned to the states and saw what was on TV in Prime Time. And it just got progressively worse right up the present.
Back in my day when I was a teenager in the late 60's and early 70's, sex was never alluded to on TV. Look at a few of the most popular sitcoms of the day. The Brady Bunch, The Partridge Family, The Monkees are a few that come to mind. Not one of those shows ever alluded to sex with a member of the opposite sex. Sure they covered puberty and crushes and all that of a typical teenager, but the females never dressed provocatively or like *****, nor did the males ever show that their only goal in life was to sleep with a girl. Sex was never mentioned nor was it alluded to. I think Marsha Brady wore a mini-skirt once and it drove me up the wall! Sure we did think about sex and we did have our make-out sessions and spin the bottle, but no one ever had sex, at least that I knew of. The biggest thrill for us males back then was French kissing and maybe getting to "second base."
Can you imagine re-makes of those shows today? Marsha would be the school ****, dressed in tight low riding jeans or a mini skirt with a see through blouse with no bra (now that's something I wouldn't have minded seeing!) and she would probably be having sex with Greg since he was not her real brother along with the whole football team. The Partridge family and the Monkees would be having sex with all the groupies that followed them around from week to week and David Cassidy would probably be banging everyone as he was an idol back then.
When did TV change? I have watched a couple of sitcoms and regular shows in recent years and the majority of them deal with only one thing: SEX, SEX, and more SEX among teenagers! Is it any wonder that casual sex, as often as possible, seems to be the main goal of most teenagers and younger people today? You are most correct in your analysis. It is not good. Just walk to any mall today and take a look at the teenagers. The females are dressed like ***** looking to attract males, and the males strut around like peacocks trying to attract the female. It is a dirty old mans dream to sit in a mall on a Saturday afternoon lusting after these young woman flaunting their bodies like a piece of meat in a butcher shop. Just watch the eyes of some men my age or older the next time and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Now compare a Japanese sitcom or drama with an American one (maybe a few Europeans can chime in on their own sitcoms and dramas) and you will notice that the Japanese ones never allude to sex, especially among teenagers, nor do they have it as their main theme week after week. They are, for the most part, just wholesome shows that are enjoyable to watch. Why is that? And because sex is not the main theme, the Japanese do not turn out to be prudes. Have you ever seen, outside of the cosplay girls of course, many Japanese teenagers dressing as slutty as their US counterparts? Do Japanese woman in their 20's dress to make the best use of their breasts and body to attract the opposite sex. No. For the most part they dress fashionably and mostly conservative.
Case in point: My wife and I have been watching the NHK 15 min. morning drama "Fighto" for the past 4 months that her mother sends to us. In that show the husband has lost his company and the very cute wife (IMO) has moved to another town to work at an Onsen to help make ends meet while the husband tries to get on his feet. She meets a single doctor in the apartment building who comes to have a crush on her this past month. He is beginning to fall in love with her and she is somewhat attracted to him also. Once you think she will cheat on her husband she doesn't. Sex is never mentioned nor alluded to and there is no touching yet except he once grabbed her hand and she pulled it away. I told my wife that if this were an American show, they would have been in bed a long time ago as that is the way TV is today. She agreed.
There is also a 16 yr old daughter who has a crush on an older man in his 20's and a 16 yr old classmate who has a crush on her and there is not a hint of sex nor does the teenager dress in sexy clothes. A far cry from US TV as the 16 yr old would probably be having sex with someone or at least we would know she would want sex and would be dressing to advertise it.
Schools here in Tennessee have started enforcing a strict dress code in schools beginning this year. No sexy clothes, hip huggers, tank tops, open shirts, t-shirts and such, and you know what happened? The kids started complaining along with their parents that the rules were too strict and didn't allow the kids to dress freely. Their "freedom of speech" was being violated. A couple of the wealthy parents have even started a lawsuit against the school system. What the hell is wrong with this picture when the parents don't even care if their daughters dress like little *****? I don't get it.
Therefore, to wrap this up, stay on the theme of this thread, and concur with your analysis, is it any wonder why virginity is not sacred anymore here? Is it any wonder why casual sex is so pervasive with over half of kids having sex before they are 14? TV, books, and magazines make it seem like it is the "in" thing to do and if you don't do "it" there is something wrong with you and you are not cool. Personally, I place the blame on the media, Hollywood, the parents, and the permissive attitude of the culture who make young people believe that having casual sex with anyone, anywhere, anytime, is cool. As you pointed out, "living a lifestyle where casual sex is the routine can be severely damaging in the end," is not only bad for ones emotions and sex life with a comitted partner, but I think it is damaging to the culture as a whole as has been so evident recently.
There are a few more points I'd like to respond to but I have to make one more short post and then get my butt to bed. Be back Sunday night as the weekend is with the wife and some great sex!