Vertical Japanese translation

[Jubei869]

Hello,
I am trying to have a phrase in english text translated into vertical japanese. The phrase is: "In the path of a warrior, fear does not exist." I have tried asking around. But have had no luck. Any assistance would be highly appreciated. Thank you.

 

[mdchachi]

戦
士
の
道
に
は
恐
怖
は
存
在
し
ま
せ
ん

 

[Jubei869]

Sorry, spell check changed it. I just noticed it. its supposed to say "In the path of a warrior, fear does not walk." Can it be written vertically with the break in the phrase side by side?

 

[mdchachi]

You can break up the sentence, sure. It goes top-down, right-left such as

 

[Toritoribe]

Sorry, spell check changed it. I just noticed it. its supposed to say "In the path of a warrior, fear does not walk." Can it be written vertically with the break in the phrase side by side?

Tatoo?

 

[Jubei869]

It might be, but its for my uniform. Thank you sooo very much!!!

 

[mdchachi]

It might be, but its for my uniform. Thank you sooo very much!!!

Were you looking for "does not walk" or "does not exist"? What I gave you was "does not exist."
But it's harder to translate "fear does not walk" because the literal translation of fear walking may be confusing.

 

[Jubei869]

"Fear does not walk" but i believe that "does not exist" works as well. Would you agree?

 

[Toritoribe]

It's quite hard to choose a verb to mean both "to walk" and "to exist" in Japanese. "To exist" would sound more natural in Japanese, I believe. Anyway, here's my attempt for "to exist." (The right one sounds more classical.)

 

[日本語 Class]

A question, what is this vertical translation (and writting)?? And what is it for?

I think Ive never seen before (except for manga probably)

 

[mdchachi]

There is no differentiation between "vertical Japanese" and horizontal in terms of grammar or anything. Just like you can write English vertically if you want.
Traditionally writing is vertical and that's how it normally is in printed form even now in newspapers and books.

 

[日本語 Class]

I didnt know (thanks)

Is there any situation that Vertical writting is the expected or correct form? Or its always optional

 

[Majestic]

Japanese newspapers are written vertically. Japanese novels, texts, and most historical documents are written vertically. Japanese handwritten letters are typically written vertically.

The defaul setting on computers for writing any text is horizontal, and so most correspondance that is done on email is done horizontally.

Its a versatile language. Any student studying the language will probablly be better off writing horizontally.

 

[日本語 Class]

Very good to know thank you

 

[mdchachi]

Note, it's vertically right to left. Books will open "backwards" compared to English books.
I found this utterly fascinating demonstration showing how to read a book in Japanese (vertically no less).
You can try watching it at 2x speed and see if you can keep up.

 

[日本語 Class]

True, like mangas

Are letters written right to left (when vertical) too?
(And horizontally is it always (and not only letters now I mean) left to right?)

 

[nice gaijin]

True, like mangas

Are letters written right to left (when vertical) too?
(And horizontally is it always (and not only letters now I mean) left to right?)

When written vertically, each line is read top to bottom (ABCD), right to left (starting on the right and moving left: rows 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)

5	4	3	2	1
Q	M	I	E	A
R	N	J	F	B
S	O	K	G	C
T	P	L	H	D

When written horizontally, it's left to right (each row), top to bottom

1	A	B	C	D
2	E	F	G	H
3	I	J	K	L
4	M	N	O	P
5	Q	R	S	T

 

[日本語 Class]

Exactly, thanks a lot 🙌🏼

 

[Toritoribe]

Incidentally, it used to be written from right to left in horizontal writing, like in Arabic or Hebrew.

Horizontal and vertical writing in East Asian scripts - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[nice gaijin]

Incidentally, it used to be written from right to left in horizontal writing, like in Arabic or Hebrew.

Horizontal and vertical writing in East Asian scripts - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes there are sometimes still some old signs that I have to read a few times before I realize they're written "backwards." I think they're all pre-WWII though

 

[日本語 Class]

Very good to know

 

[Buntaro]

日本語 Class,

Centuries ago, kanji were written from right to left. (A strong western influence since the end of WWII has convinced Japanese and Chinese people to “join the rest of the world” and begin writing from left to right.) Many Buddhist temples in Japan and China (and probably Korea too) still have signs painted right to left because these signs were painted centuries ago.

Take a look at this image from the Forbidden City in Beijing, China. The sign at the top, "正大光明", is written right to left. Even today, in Japan, it is very common to see ancient Buddhist temple signs painted right to left.

File:Inside the Forbidden City.jpg - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org