- 4 Oct 2012
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This right here is a pretty classic straw man. You're misrepresenting the anti-smoking argument
Read your meme again. It said misrepresenting "someone's" argument, NOT "the" (general/popular) argument. I also did not misrepresent it. I said "people who act like", NOT believe. Its up to the reader to decide if what they are hearing does not seem to be taking those things into account because that is certainly what it seems like to me. And if they are not taking things into account, how is that a misrepresentation of their argument??
and projecting a desire to hate on and oppress subgroups for kicks... because it's out of fashion to be racist or homophobic? Seriously dude, what the heck.
I don't think I will be able to find a source to explain the psychological source of taboo. However, this will perhaps enlighten you to some basic links between them.
"Changing social customs and standards also create new taboos, such as bans on slavery; extension of the pedophilia taboo to ephebophilia; prohibitions on alcohol, tobacco, or psychopharmaceutical consumption (particularly among pregnant women); and the employment of politically correct euphemisms – at times quite unsuccessfully – to mitigate various alleged forms of discrimination. "
It might surprise you to know that I don't write for wiki and it was not me that put sexual taboo in the same paragraph as tobacco taboo. And a general understanding of taboo is a key reason that sex prohibition and tobacco prohibition analogy works.
And while I don't think I can find a source that will explain that the common thread in my mind is people trying to get a superiority kick, that is the single best explanation I have for the coming and going of taboo and their presence in all human societies. The goings of taboo sure makes them seem generally technically/physically unnecessary, so what other explanation is there? Well, I guess there are many psychological explanations, but mine is the desire to feel superiority in the self. Others speak of "social order" but what is the most basic social order? I would say its hierarchy or, who is superior to another. Even wolves practice that.
I find all your shredding of my analogies just ignorant of the use of analogies. Any analogy has a dozen reasons why its not a perfect match of comparison. Anyone could dismiss any analogy by the examples you have laid out. Your criticism of the differences in all my analogies pretty much means the only way for you to be satisfied with an analogy is to compare a thing with itself.
How is my challenge any more ridiculous
I explained that.....cigarettes are not directly important to ME. Only attacks on freedom are important to me. Thus, you can more fairly expect me to cough up extreme details off the top of my head about one but not the other.
I personally wish the damn things were never invented.