Wiktionary:
Noun Jap (plural Japs)
Singular
Jap
Plural
Japs
1. A person from Japan or of Japanese ancestry.
Wikipedia:
Jap (variants: Japo, Japse) is a slur used against the Japanese people.
Jap as War Slur
Jap, n was first used in 1860 to refer to members of the Japanese embassy in the United States. It was later popularized during World War II to describe those of Japanese/Asian descent, and was then commonly used in newspaper headlines to refer to the Japanese.
the Jap attack on Pearl Harbor...
In Japanese dictionaries, the term "Jap" is only defined as a disparaging term used against the Japanese people, like it is the case in many English language dictionaries.
Urbandictionary:
A term used for people of Japanses decent, also used as a derogatory term during World War II.
Dicationary.com:
n. Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for a person of Japanese birth or descent.
Personally I don't find it that offensive, it just depends on people. Why don't you try your own clinical trials on people in Kobe?
Quite right.Hachiro said:If you can find enough people that understand the word in the first place.
Wrong. If you're an American, just see around how is anti-American movement here in Japan now, if any.ツ The more I study the after-the-war history, victor's history, in Japan, esp., the Tokyo War Crimes Tribunal or brain-washing policy, the more I feel hatred, but I highly appreciate the J post-war history as well.gaijinalways said:... I also think you can find Japanese who knows the word's history, it might be only younger Japanese people who tend to not know much WWII history.
pipokun said:Why don't you try your own clinical trials on people in Kobe?
You cannot get the answer here, at least I've never lived in Kobe before, so just try your own field research or whatever.Dutch Baka said:one more time, what do you mean with:
Why don't you try your own clinical trials on people in Kobe?
And I am willing to bet that unless she is over 60 years old she probably doesnt know the "meaning" that many westerner's attach to it.My Japanese girlfriend used Jap more then I do.
Dutch Baka said:I think the word Jap, is not that bad anymore if you look in the time were we are living in, and I think it is okay that it is used as abbreviation of the word Japanese. Thinking of the word Jap, as a negative word because of the Second world war is in my opinion MAYBE a bit old fashion ( do I say this good?)
Mikawa Ossan said:I am not of the war generation, but the term "jap" sounds extremely derrogatory to me. That may have to do with war propaganda films I saw in my youth (not during the war, obviously) in which the word jap was said with such venom that it literally made me cringe at the time. It almost certainly has a lot to do with the fact that my native country is America.
kirei_na_me said:I think it's extremely derogatory. I grew up listening to old geezers throwing that term around, referring to the people they "pounded" back during WWII. I cringe every time I hear it or see it.
CC1 said:I find it offensive. I once had a "friend" call my oldest son "Jap" when we were visiting my hometown. Needless to say he was looking up at my boots within seconds!
Rock Lee said:I think of "jap" as racist and derogatory too, mainly because of the negative connotations the Americans gave the word in the time of WW2.
Hachiro said:Jump forward to 1986, the year I got married, my uncle, with whom I had a great relationship with growing up, FLAT OUT REFUSED to come to my wedding, because to him I was marrying a JAP. Even though my wife and I were born nearly 20 years after the end of WWII. He didn't come to my wedding because his brother, my uncle, my Dad's brother, whom I never met because he died well before I was born, was killed in Okinawa during the battle here.
You can see the word "Jap" used in a derogatory way. It's a story about Mike's grandfather who came to America.Kenji by Fort Minor
My father came from Japan in 1905
He was 15 when he immigrated from Japan
He, he... he worked until he was able to buy this patch
And build a store
Let me tell you the story in the form of a dream,
I don't know why I have to tell it but I know what it means,
Close your eyes, just picture the scene,
As I paint it for you, it was World War II,
When this man named Kenji woke up,
Ken was not a soldier,
He was just a man with a family who owned a store in LA,
That day, he crawled out of bed like he always did,
Bacon and eggs with wife and kids,
He lived on the second floor of a little store he ran,
He moved to LA from Japan,
They called him 'Immigrant,'
In Japanese, he'd say he was called "Issei,"
That meant 'First Generation In The United States,'
When everyone was afraid of the Germans, afraid of the Japs,
But most of all afraid of a homeland attack,
And that morning when Ken went out on the doormat,
His world went black 'cause,
Right there; front page news,
Three weeks before 1942,
"Pearl Harbour's Been Bombed And The Japs Are Comin',"
Pictures of soldiers dyin' and runnin',
Ken knew what it would lead to,
Just like he guessed, the President said,
"The evil Japanese in our home country will be locked away,"
They gave Ken, a couple of days,
To get his whole life packed in two bags,
Just two bags, couldn't even pack his clothes,
Some folks didn't even have a suitcase, to pack anything in,
So two trash bags was all they gave them,
When the kids asked mum "Where are we goin'?"
Nobody even knew what to say to them,
Ken didn't wanna lie, he said "The US is lookin' for spies,
So we have to live in a place called Manzanar,
Where a lot of Japanese people are,"
Stop it don't look at the gunmen,
You don't wanna get the soldiers wonderin',
If you gonna run or not,
'Cause if you run then you might get shot,
Other than that try not to think about it,
Try not to worry 'bout it; bein' so crowded,
Someday we'll get out, someday, someday.
...
As soon as war broke out
The G.I came and they just come to the house and
"You have to come"
"All the Japanese have to go"
They took Mr. Lee
People didn't understand
Why did they have to take him?
Because he's an innocent labourer
...
So now they're in a town with soldiers surroundin' them,
Every day, every night look down at them,
From watch towers up on the wall,
Ken couldn't really hate them at all;
They were just doin' their job and,
He wasn't gonna make any problems,
He had a little garden with vegetables and fruits that,
He gave to the troops in a basket his wife made,
But in the back of his mind, he wanted his families life saved,
Prisoners of war in their own damn country,
What for?
Time passed in the prison town,
He wanted them to live it down when they were free,
The only way out was joinin' the army,
And supposedly, some men went out for the army, signed on,
And ended up flyin' to Japan with a bomb,
That 15 kiloton blast, put an end to the war pretty fast,
Two cities were blown to bits; the end of the war came quick,
Ken got out, big hopes of a normal life, with his kids and his wife,
But, when they got back to their home,
What they saw made them feel so alone,
These people had trashed every room,
Smashed in the windows and bashed in the doors,
Written on the walls and the floor,
"Japs not welcome anymore."
And Kenji dropped both of his bags at his sides and just stood outside,
He, looked at his wife without words to say,
She looked back at him wiped the tears away,
And, said "Someday we'll be okay, someday,"
Now the names have been changed, but the story's true,
My family was locked up back in '42,
My family was there it was dark and damp,
And they called it an internment camp
...
When we first got back from camp... uhh
It was... pretty... pretty bad
...
I, I remember my husband said
"Are we gonna stay 'til last?"
Then my husband died before they close the camp.
ricecake said:Younger generation Japanese typically among males commonly use " Jap " as self identification,for they don't regard it as racial insult.