Shortening a sentence

[letslearn]

I am trying to say in English, I want to be able to read manga and watch movies without subtitles. I have come up with.

漫画が読めるようになりたいし映画字幕なしが見れるよ うになりたい.

Can you shorten that statement? for example in the English statement I didn't repeat "I want to be able" could I just say.

漫画が読んで映画字幕なしが見れるようになりたい. o r similar?

よろしくお願いしま

 

[Mike Cash]

漫画が読めるように、映画を字幕なしで見れるようになりたい。

The "able to" bit gets built into the verbs, but the "want to become" bit stands alone and need not be repeated.

 

[letslearn]

Thanks a lot mikesan , that makes itsound more natural and less Repeative

 

[Toritoribe]

I am trying to say in English, I want to be able to read manga and watch movies without subtitles. I have come up with.

漫画が読めるようになりたいし映画字幕なしが見れるようになりたい.

Can you shorten that statement? for example in the English statement I didn't repeat "I want to be able" could I just say.

漫画が読んで映画字幕なしが見れるようになりたい. or similar?

よろしくお願いします

～ように at the end of a subordinate clause can mean "like~", i.e., "I want to become to be able to watch movies without subtitles, like I can read manga".

漫画を読んだり、映画を字幕なしで見たりできるようになりたい, or more colloquially 漫画を読むとか、映画を字幕なしで見るとかができるようになりたい would be answers you are looking for, but I don't think 漫画が（/ も）読めるようになりたいし、映画を（/ も）字幕なしで見れるようになりたい is repetitive.

 

[Mike Cash]

Does it always mean that? Or also mean that? In either case, it is something I will have to be careful about.

 

[Toritoribe]

Confusingly, it's not always so, as I used "can". Probably "volitional / non-volitional" thing would be one of the keys.

https://jref.com/threads/ように-精一杯-questions.54111/

 

[Mike Cash]

Thanks for the clarification. I can live with unwittingly giving the OP ambiguous information, but I would hate to be the source of bogus information.

 

[letslearn]

Confusingly, it's not always so, as I used "can". Probably "volitional / non-volitional" thing would be one of the keys.

https://jref.com/threads/ように-精一杯-questions.54111/

That is very interesting. Here I was thinking that I was being repetitive when actually I was changing the entire meaning!

 

[Mike Cash]

You did notice where I changed が to で, didn't you? Just want to make sure.

 

[letslearn]

Yes thank you. Is it because it is an action? i.e to do without?

 

[Mike Cash]

Yes thank you. Is it because it is an action? i.e to do without?

I guess so. I'm kind of losing the ability to explain the "why" of things.

 

[Toritoribe]

字幕なしの映画が見れる/わかる is another option.