do you know who managed POWs in south Asia?
My grandfather, who fought for Australia in New Guinea in WWII, told me an terrible story. After a battle, the Australians would go back into the jungle to retrieve their dead. Many times the Japanese soldiers got there first, just so they could mutilate the bodies of the dead Australian and New Zealanders. Often, dead Australian and NZ soldiers would have their stomachs cut open and filled with rocks, they would be hanging from trees, or they would be chopped into small pieces, all by the Japanese soldiers.
He probably knows. Most knowlegable Australians know there was some sort of punshiment after the War that involved execution.That's why many Japanese and Asian soldiers were sentenced to death.
I know many POWs can not forget what Japan did to them, I think they should not, but it is also a truth that many of them, the cruel Japanese and some Asians, were killed after the war.
Japan Foundation invited some POWs, sorry not all, to show them Japan now, and they did not know the executions till the foundation explained them.
Does your grandfather know it?
Thank you from a perspective from a small town, ufortunate to have been in the path of the bomber squads. I think we can get these numbers (100.000 in Tokyo and 2000 in your small town) into perspective by reminding ourselves that about 3000 were killed in New York 9/11!In my small city, about 2000 civillians were killed by bombing on 7th july 1945 in center of downtown.
BTW
I would like to remind everyone that this thread is about the fire bombing of residential areas in downtown Tokyo. If you like to discuss POWs: Do it somewhere else!
Don't worry the trauma you said....
The trauma is so deep that I have experienced young japanese starting to cry, when talking about this issue, even though they never actually experienced the war themselves.
I think that the fire bombings have seriously traumatized many japanese. Everyone knows about the two neuclear bombs, but actually far more people were killed through fire bombing.
The trauma is so deep that I have experienced young japanese starting to cry, when talking about this issue, even though they never actually experienced the war themselves.
I started this thread in order to give people a chance to reflect on an issue which is very real for many japanese - even today.
because almost all cities of Japan were burnt out during the war. They talk about it as same as they talk about a disaster like typhoon or earthquake. No hatred is there.
Most of our parents and grandparents have same experiences because almost all cities of Japan were burnt out during the war. They talk about it as same as they talk about a disaster like typhoon or earthquake. No hatred is there.
As Han Chan wrote, there is a serious trauma. However, they have been hiding it so deep inside and they never have told us who was wrong.
It may be a tale about a pride of Japanese. sorry, if it's off topic.
You are not off topic - actually you are right on!
By starting this thread I actually wanted people to reflect a bit on how the japanese population have been influenced by having been the targets of a savage bombing campaign.
It's amazing how people can take the shocks and neuter them. Thanks for sharing.They talk about it as same as they talk about a disaster like typhoon or earthquake. No hatred is there.
As Han Chan wrote, there is a serious trauma. However, they have been hiding it so deep inside and they never have told us who was wrong.
People remember things like this in order to remind themselves that they should not support a government that openly commits war crimes and atrocities. But how can the public be assured that their government is not? Press and media are different beasts separated by decades of change, for the worse I'd say. People like to think that only Al-Quaeda operatives and 'rebels' are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan, but how about the thousands of innocent bystanders that die? How about the tens of thousands that died in the decade or so between the original Gulf War and the current occupation due to the constant bombing raids of water treatment facilities and other social infrastructures via the 'no fly' zone?
I'm not trying ot hijack this thread, but rather making a point based on the posts I've read here. People wonder, 'whats the importance?', others reply 'the importance is found in the remembering, to learn from mistakes'. I'd hazard the opinion however that we haven't learned a thing except how to hide it better by obtaining control of the media. And by 'we' I sadly mean our elected governments, their lobby groups and associated business interests.
I very gingerly support Canada's troops in Afghanistan as far as I wish them all a safe return and support the vigour with which they wish to serve Canada, however I do not support the current Canadian government's decision to participate in the war on terror and in my mind I hold our Prime Minister Stephen Harper, just another Neo-con, guilty of war crimes by association. I feel that as a Canadian we aren't learning anything or achieving any peace over there. We have failed to learn from Japan, from the Jews, from Rwanda, take your pick. It's worth remembering any conflicts dead out of honour and respect, but thats only half of it, we also have to actively fight for change if we wish to justly invoke their names and lives.
By starting this thread I actually wanted people to reflect a bit on how the japanese population have been influenced by having been the targets of a savage bombing campaign.
You are not off topic - actually you are right on!
By starting this thread I actually wanted people to reflect a bit on how the japanese population have been influenced by having been the targets of a savage bombing campaign.
While thats all nice and good - what about the Germans who were bombed just as badly? What about the English who were terrorised by long-range missile bombings? What about Australians who were bombed by the Japanese? What about everyone else who suffered?
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Steven Lloyd Leeper, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Hiroshima Peace Cultre Foundation, stated Asians from PRC and Koreas would be chosen in the board.
Leeper said to Chugoku Shinbun, "there still remains strong arguments the A-bomb released Asia from Japan's colonial rule in Asia, so he hopes the museum will be a place where they discuss from strong point of Asian and multiethnic views to be empassy with and understand each others.