On August 9, 1945, the USSR entered the war with Japan

[Russian Bear]

How the Soviets Blitzed Japan in WW2

Most people dont even know that the Soviets fought the Japanese in WW2. (The whole topic of the relations between the two countries even before WW2 is also most interesting.) Here's an animated video, which inspired the title of this thread. It seemed appropriate in the light of the Russian...

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I published an article about the Russo-Japanese War on this site. If you are interested, follow the link.

 

[Russian Bear]

If links can't be published on other forums, tell me I'll move the article to this forum if you're interested in the story. I think I figured out how to publish photos.

I can also publish an article on how the Russian Empire lost the Russo-Japanese War if you are interested.

 

[Russian Bear]

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How the Soviets Blitzed Japan in WW2

Most people dont even know that the Soviets fought the Japanese in WW2. (The whole topic of the relations between the two countries even before WW2 is also most interesting.) Here's an animated video, which inspired the title of this thread. It seemed appropriate in the light of the Russian...

projectavalon.net

I published an article about the Russo-Japanese War on this site. If you are interested, follow the link.

Link to post #8 scroll down to see my article #8 my post

 

[thomas]

Thanks for sharing this! Very interesting!

If links can't be published on other forums, tell me I'll move the article to this forum if you're interested in the story. I think I figured out how to publish photos. I can also publish an article on how the Russian Empire lost the Russo-Japanese War if you are interested.

I also have an article on the Russo-Japanese War in the works, too.

 

[Russian Bear]

Thanks for sharing this! Very interesting!



I also have an article on the Russo-Japanese War in the works, too.

I can help you with this.

 

[Lothor]

Thanks for the article. I also tend towards the view that Russia's involvement in the late stages of the war was the main factor leading to Japan's surrender, but we'll probably never know for sure. I didn't read the article in detail (sorry!), but one part struck me: 'but the nuclear strike fell precisely on two peaceful cities, which, as it turns out now (but requires unconditional confirmation), were the centers of Japanese Christian communities!'

The fact that these were centres of Christianity was widely known even before the war (though I imagine that Christians had to keep quiet about their beliefs during the pre-war era). Christianity certainly has a long history in Kyushu (see Christianity in Japan - Wikipedia). You could perhaps reword the sentence as 'but the nuclear strike fell precisely on two peaceful cities that happened to be centers of Japanese Christian communities!'

 

[Russian Bear]

Thanks for the article. I also tend towards the view that Russia's involvement in the late stages of the war was the main factor leading to Japan's surrender, but we'll probably never know for sure. I didn't read the article in detail (sorry!), but one part struck me: 'but the nuclear strike fell precisely on two peaceful cities, which, as it turns out now (but requires unconditional confirmation), were the centers of Japanese Christian communities!'

The fact that these were centres of Christianity was widely known even before the war (though I imagine that Christians had to keep quiet about their beliefs during the pre-war era). Christianity certainly has a long history in Kyushu (see Christianity in Japan - Wikipedia). You could perhaps reword the sentence as 'but the nuclear strike fell precisely on two peaceful cities that happened to be centers of Japanese Christian communities!'

You are right, now I have fixed everything. I have many other articles, come and read them.

 

[mdchachi]

Thanks for the article. I also tend towards the view that Russia's involvement in the late stages of the war was the main factor leading to Japan's surrender, but we'll probably never know for sure. I didn't read the article in detail (sorry!), but one part struck me: 'but the nuclear strike fell precisely on two peaceful cities, which, as it turns out now (but requires unconditional confirmation), were the centers of Japanese Christian communities!'

The fact that these were centres of Christianity was widely known even before the war (though I imagine that Christians had to keep quiet about their beliefs during the pre-war era). Christianity certainly has a long history in Kyushu (see Christianity in Japan - Wikipedia). You could perhaps reword the sentence as 'but the nuclear strike fell precisely on two peaceful cities that happened to be centers of Japanese Christian communities!'

Why would you call them "peaceful" cities? All of Japan was heavily involved in the war effort including these two cities. It's not like these two cities were pacifist cities and refused to get involved in the war. Or do you mean they were peaceful because they hadn't yet experienced war (bombings, etc.) like Tokyo had?

 

[Grandpa Frank]

I always heard Fukuoka was clouded over and had bad weather , so the plane went to Nagasaki as their alternate target. I remember thinking when I visited Nagasaki that the hills and mountains around it made a bowl shape that concentrated the bomb effects there. A visit to the two big war museums in Japan stunned my mind with the death and destruction a single bomb could cause and the long- term effects after.

 

[Russian Bear]

Why would you call them "peaceful" cities? All of Japan was heavily involved in the war effort including these two cities. It's not like these two cities were pacifist cities and refused to get involved in the war. Or do you mean they were peaceful because they hadn't yet experienced war (bombings, etc.) like Tokyo had?

Japanese children, old people, civilians, they are not soldiers with weapons, they are ordinary people, they are innocent of anything. They are citizens of Japan but not soldiers, even if they supported their emperor and fatherland, why kill civilians? Shooting an unarmed person is a great sin, even prisoners cannot be killed

 

[mdchachi]

Japanese children, old people, civilians, they are not soldiers with weapons, they are ordinary people, they are innocent of anything. They are citizens of Japan but not soldiers, even if they supported their emperor and fatherland, why kill civilians? Shooting an unarmed person is a great sin, even prisoners cannot be killed

I think the Americans would argue that civilians were not targeted. There were military targets in both those cities including munitions factories employing civilians. Civilian deaths are called "collateral damage." Anyway I think "peaceful city" is meaningless in this context Just my opinion.

 

[Grandpa Frank]

I've always like the idea in TV shows & movies where aliens from outer space use force to stop all wars & killing on earth. I think that's the only way it will ever stop , sad to say.

 

[Russian Bear]

The USSR defeated the million-strong Kwantung Army in 12 days, and no atomic bomb was needed - thanks to the USSR, Japan capitulated. The USSR entered the war after the atomic bombing of cities and fought the Japanese army. Killing civilians is a sin, I repeat. Factories in two cities do not solve anything, the mere sacrifice of children and peaceful violence is a great crime against humanity. And you will also say that all of Japan should have been bombed with atomic bombs so that there would be emptiness there. Whoever did this took upon himself a great sin against humanity, I tell you this for sure.

 

[Russian Bear]

Video of Soviet troops rushing to help their American-English allies (Soviet troops defeated Japan's million-strong Kwantung army in 12 days. After which Japan capitulated):


Manchurian operation in Eastern China, advance of Soviet troops towards the Japanese army.

 

[Grandpa Frank]

You have to remember that how a person looks at history is often affected by culture , propaganda , teaching in schools etc. . People in non-communist countries are told all that all you have learned in a communist country is false. I'm guessing in communist countries , many people do not believe what non-communist countries say. Often when it comes to talking and writing about history and even todays events , you will run into people who will strongly disagree and argue that you are wrong. I'm now 75 and almost all my life I have been taught communism is evil so I have to fight my thinking to try to be neutral and open minded to other people. I often feel like I have been brainwashed to the point I can never change. Anyway , what I'm trying to get across , is don't get upset too much if someone accept you 100% here. I'm glad to have you and see active posting by you.

 

[Russian Bear]

You have to remember that how a person looks at history is often affected by culture , propaganda , teaching in schools etc. . People in non-communist countries are told all that all you have learned in a communist country is false. I'm guessing in communist countries , many people do not believe what non-communist countries say. Often when it comes to talking and writing about history and even todays events , you will run into people who will strongly disagree and argue that you are wrong. I'm now 75 and almost all my life I have been taught communism is evil so I have to fight my thinking to try to be neutral and open minded to other people. I often feel like I have been brainwashed to the point I can never change. Anyway , what I'm trying to get across , is don't get upset too much if someone accept you 100% here. I'm glad to have you and see active posting by you.

This is an interesting topic, if you read my articles you will understand a lot, I support everything with facts and arguments. Communism is bad as propaganda, but the socialist system is loved by the old Russian generation that lived under the USSR. It is not so difficult to find the truth if you start studying it, whoever seeks finds it.

Your age is respected, you have been through a lot.